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Old 11-07-2017, 03:57 PM   #1
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I have a 300 blackout and have been thinking about buying a new upper in 6.5 grendel.
If I buy a complete upper, it is fully compatible or what else would I need to make it work.

What upper would you recommend?
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:59 PM   #2
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:00 PM   #3
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Ok. that is easy enough
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Check out Grendel Hunter uppers for the complete Uppers. You can also get the BCG you need from them too. www.grendelhunter.com

I bought one from them about a year ago and its great.
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I have a 300 blackout and have been thinking about buying a new upper in 6.5 grendel.
If I buy a complete upper, it is fully compatible or what else would I need to make it work.

What upper would you recommend?
You need a new bolt. Personally I would just buy this: http://www.larue.com/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit

You can fit about three 6.5G rounds in a .223 PMAG before it starts to bind. But it will work fine with three.
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:07 PM   #6
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If you are looking to keep it simple ust get a complete upper so swapping out is very simple 300BO or 6.5 Grendel. Buying the complete upper you will have the BCG you need for he Grendel included. Couple pins to swap from one to the other.

You will also need like said above magazines, elander or the ones from Alexander arms have worked well.
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:20 PM   #7
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Have to get new mags and a bolt
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:25 PM   #8
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Check out the Radical Arms 6.5 Grendel uppers. Decent price and accurate as all get out.. At least mine is.
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Check out Grendel Hunter uppers for the complete Uppers. You can also get the BCG you need from them too. www.grendelhunter.com

I bought one from them about a year ago and its great.
I ordered one from them Sunday, should have it Thursday....can't wait!
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I ordered one from them Sunday, should have it Thursday....can't wait!


You won't be disappointed. Great upper. Great people to deal with.


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Thanks I will look into these.
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:17 PM   #12
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Bump from a guy in the same boat. I've seen a few cheapies at Bear Creek and Sanders but really want that LaRue. Anybody have the LaRue upper?
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:38 PM   #13
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Have to get new mags and a bolt

So it requires a new bolt?
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Old 11-22-2017, 03:52 PM   #14
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So it requires a new bolt?
If you buy a complete 6.5 Grendel upper it should come with the bcg and bolt. Should slap on any ar-15 lower and be good to go. Going to need Grendel mags as well
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Same thing here. I keep seeing that Radical, and mostly good reviews on it. But the Larue is just a couple hundred more. Decisions.....
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Man, if I was in the market for one I'd jump one of these.

http://www.primaryarms.com/radical-1...5-ss-med-15fhr

http://www.primaryarms.com/radical-1...5-ss-med-15mor
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:27 PM   #17
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Built my own Grendel and the barrel I bought came with a bolt as they all should. Especially a complete upper. And would be surprised if a mag didn't come with it also because the 5.56/223 will not work without serious work. I built my rifle except for the receivers which were Christmas and B'day, out of the Midway catalog. They also have complete uppers.
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Same thing here. I keep seeing that Radical, and mostly good reviews on it. But the Larue is just a couple hundred more. Decisions.....


For only $200 more you'd be crazy NOT to upgrade to the Larue over the Radical.


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I'm leaning toward the LaRue. Just put one of my 5.56's up for sale to make it semi-painless. Always hard to sell a gun and something I try not to do.
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A damm fool.
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This may be worth a shot.




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A damm fool.


Well that sure what I was thinking but just didnít say it out loud.


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You typically get what you pay for when it comes to things like this.


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You have a recommendation on a really good 6.5 Grendel barrel? I have a LaRue Stealth rifle that I got way back when they first came out. It never really shot as well as I liked but I killed a truckload of coyotes with it nonetheless. Iím looking to rebuild the upper with a hand guard instead of that heavy and uncomfortable rail it came with and a different caliber. Maybe Iíll actually use the darn thing. Iím going back and forth between turning it into a 22nosler and a 6.5Grendel.


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What is a good length for a 6.5 barrel.
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I just ordered the Primary Arms for just over $400 shipped w/tax. Cheapest I could configure the Larue was about $800 before tax/shipping. I'd love to have the Larue but just couldn't justify twice the price.
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What is your thoughts on the Alexander Arms complete upper in 6.5 Grendel? I was looking at the 18" side charging hunter. Is the LaRue a better choice for a lot less money?
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Same question here. Can it be a good SBR or does it need 18Ē (or more) to get a full burn and really be worth doing? Iím not going to shoot at anything with it out past 250 and 95% will be quick, short shots. Thought it might be a better truck gun round than .223.

I found a pretty good Black Friday deal on a 12.5Ē bbl


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Same question here. Can it be a good SBR or does it need 18Ē (or more) to get a full burn and really be worth doing? Iím not going to shoot at anything with it out past 250 and 95% will be quick, short shots. Thought it might be a better truck gun round than .223.

I found a pretty good Black Friday deal on a 12.5Ē bbl


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Nick, I donít have any experience with short barrels in a Grendel. Lgidewell on here posted a couple of hog kills with a 12.5Ē 6.5 Grendel.

Thread title is something like new record kill with SBR or something like that. I do remember him saying that his velocities with 123 grain bullets were down in the 2300fps which would concern me and IMO severely limit your choice in bullets, not to mention give up a lot of the advantages of a 6.5mm Bullet. For reference my 18Ē Alexander Arms barrel ran low 2500fps with that class Bullet and my current 20Ē Bartlein 5R barrel runs mid-upper 2500 fps.


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Knowing your taste in guns Iíd look at Barltein and Lilja barrels. Proof is also chambering a barrel in 6.5 Grendel

Alexander Arms is the inventor of of the Grendel and I was very happy with mine. I have zero experience with them but Ballistic Advantage is supposed to be turning out some good barrels for the $$.







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velocities with 123 grain bullets were down in the 2300fps which would concern me and IMO severely limit your choice in bullets, not to mention give up a lot of the advantages of a 6.5mm Bullet.

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Aye, Quickload says right around 2300 with a 12.5", and agreed that the 2300-2500 jump is significant.

Also +1 for the LaRue, everything I've gotten from them was first class.
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Larue or Precision Firearms don't think you can go wrong with either of their Grendel uppers.

Go poke around the 65grendel forum for lots more information, it is a small forum dedicated to all things Grendel. Bill Alexander still signs on from time to time. There are some there that hunt with 12.5 inch suppressed SBRs.
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Same question here. Can it be a good SBR or does it need 18Ē (or more) to get a full burn and really be worth doing? Iím not going to shoot at anything with it out past 250 and 95% will be quick, short shots. Thought it might be a better truck gun round than .223.

I found a pretty good Black Friday deal on a 12.5Ē bbl


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For your uses a 12.5Ē will be totally fine. The purpose of 6.5 isnít necessarily speed, itís the higher BC to retain more energy at longer distances. 18Ē with a can is not gonna be a handy package and doesnít justify 200+/- more FPS IMO. Iím looking to throw a 12.5Ē 6.5 grendel upper on my sbr for the exact same intended use as you .
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I just ordered the Primary Arms for just over $400 shipped w/tax. Cheapest I could configure the Larue was about $800 before tax/shipping. I'd love to have the Larue but just couldn't justify twice the price.
You're comparing apples to oranges. The $800 LaRue was every single piece needed to make a rifle, minus the lower. The Radical deal is literally just the upper. No trigger, no stock, no LPK, no buffer tube, no buffer, no spring, no grip.

I'm not saying you made the wrong choice, just that they're different choices. Enjoy the Radical.
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Nick, I donít have any experience with short barrels in a Grendel. Lgidewell on here posted a couple of hog kills with a 12.5Ē 6.5 Grendel.

Thread title is something like new record kill with SBR or something like that. I do remember him saying that his velocities with 123 grain bullets were down in the 2300fps which would concern me and IMO severely limit your choice in bullets, not to mention give up a lot of the advantages of a 6.5mm Bullet. For reference my 18Ē Alexander Arms barrel ran low 2500fps with that class Bullet and my current 20Ē Bartlein 5R barrel runs mid-upper 2500 fps.





Knowing your taste in guns Iíd look at Barltein and Lilja barrels. Proof is also chambering a barrel in 6.5 Grendel

Alexander Arms is the inventor of of the Grendel and I was very happy with mine. I have zero experience with them but Ballistic Advantage is supposed to be turning out some good barrels for the $$.







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I actually got a Ballistic Advantage barrel for my 8.5Ē 300Blk and itís pretty good. Yeah, I do tend to like some high end rifle components. lol! Iíve been wondering whether you really get what you pay for with a lot of AR components. I bought a Noveske barrel a while back and it doesnít shoot as well as I THINK it should and neither did the LaRue Stealth barrel Iím ditching. I didnít find either one to be reliably sub MOA and thatís not acceptable to me. That BA is, but barely. Maybe Iíll just have to lower my expectations. Iím not willing to drag a Krieger bull barrel around hunting and I donít look at gas guns as target rifles. So, Iím really looking for something reasonably light (under 2.25lbs) and preferably not longer than 18Ē - shorter is better with 6-7Ē of can hanging off the end.

FWIW- LaRue has really disappointed me - I was a fanboy for a long time but feel like their quality isnít a match for their pricing. Itís good stuff but they price it like itís GREAT STUFF; and thereís an awful lot of hype around stuff thatís really pretty (unnecessarily) heavy and clunky.

Have you heard of BSF carbon sleeved barrels? Theyíre pricey but less than Proof. I just canít get with the pricing on Proof. On the other end, it seems that Odin is making some relatively affordable barrels that I see a lot of guys raving about. Know anything about them? Bartlein makes AR barrels?


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That LaRue package is so tempting. Iíve got a spare lower and have been meaning to build something in a mid level caliber for whitetail and hogs.

Does anyone know how long they plan on running that deal?


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That LaRue package is so tempting. I’ve got a spare lower and have been meaning to build something in a mid level caliber for whitetail and hogs.

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An undetermined amount of time. I’m so happy with mine that I bought two more.
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I got my upper, waiting on my lower so i can duracoat it and get assembled. Cant find any forster 6.5 grendel dies though. Seems everyone is out of stock
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I got my upper, waiting on my lower so i can duracoat it and get assembled. Cant find any forster 6.5 grendel dies though. Seems everyone is out of stock
.463” at 100 yards with factory ammo at 85Ę each. I’m not reloading at that point.
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I will. But my brother who also is waiting on his wont. What ammo is that with?
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there is getting to be more and more factory ammo from Hornady and Federal with a few more entering the Grendel realm in 2108. Plus there is always some from Alexander Arms and smaller ammo companies.

I prefer reloads of my own brewing but most of the Hornady loads I have shot are capable of sub MOA. Most accurate bullet I have tried in my Grendels is the Berger 130gr hybrid, next is the 129gr LRAB followed by the 123gr A-Max. Haven't tried the light weights yet. I have 2 and both are long barreled at 22 and 24 inches, thinking about a 16 inch upper to replace the old 24 inch that I started the Grendel with about 8 or so years ago.
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there is getting to be more and more factory ammo from Hornady and Federal with a few more entering the Grendel realm in 2018. Plus there is always some from Alexander Arms and smaller ammo companies.

I prefer reloads of my own brewing but most of the Hornady loads I have shot are capable of sub MOA. Most accurate bullet I have tried in my Grendels is the Berger 130gr hybrid, next is the 129gr LRAB followed by the 123gr A-Max. Haven't tried the light weights yet. I have 2 and both are long barreled at 22 and 24 inches, thinking about a 16 inch upper to replace the old 24 inch that I started the Grendel with about 8 or so years ago.
Whats the rumor on whos adding factory offerings for 2018??
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there is getting to be more and more factory ammo from Hornady and Federal with a few more entering the Grendel realm in 2108. Plus there is always some from Alexander Arms and smaller ammo companies.

I prefer reloads of my own brewing but most of the Hornady loads I have shot are capable of sub MOA. Most accurate bullet I have tried in my Grendels is the Berger 130gr hybrid, next is the 129gr LRAB followed by the 123gr A-Max. Haven't tried the light weights yet. I have 2 and both are long barreled at 22 and 24 inches, thinking about a 16 inch upper to replace the old 24 inch that I started the Grendel with about 8 or so years ago.


I prefer loading my own too but my Grendel loves that Federal 130 Hybrid OTM. I wish the velocity was about 100fps higher but itís dang sure consistent.




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Good bullet and if you are running a 18 barrel or longer that is pretty easy to beat with reloads using CFE223 or Leverevolution.
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Good bullet and if you are running a 18 barrel or longer that is pretty easy to beat with reloads using CFE223 or Leverevolution.


No doubt I could beat it velocity wise, especially with CFE223. Iíve not had as much luck with accuracy and consistently low SDs with it as of yet.

My gun has a 20Ē Bartlein 5R barrel with 8 twist. Itís an AR.

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I will. But my brother who also is waiting on his wont. What ammo is that with?
Hornady Black 123gr ELD-M

The Berger that mike posted did not agree with my rifle.
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This is for the Berger 130 Hybrid and works in my rifles for the 129gr LRAB, Use standard caution of start below and workup in your rifles as we are all responsible for our own actions

I am not running Leverevolution but know quite a few are . I tried CFE 223 in Lapua brass in my boltaction first and got in the low 20s ES don't remember SD for those loads in the boltaction, got to 30.9 with CCI 400 primer and one round had a little sticky bolt lift at 30.9 on a 103 degree day. 30.6 grains of CFE223 gas been safe in my and others Boltactions and gassers. but work up to it in your rifle if at all.

In the Howa Mini with its longer action there are guys getting more out of it since hey an seat to 2.3 inches or a little more with that bullet.

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Can we hear some reviews on complete uppers? Grendelhunter and Bear Creek Arsenal look to be in my price range, but I would like to hear input from TBH’ers that have shot these before I order.
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Can we hear some reviews on complete uppers? Grendelhunter and Bear Creek Arsenal look to be in my price range, but I would like to hear input from TBHíers that have shot these before I order.
No experience with those two personally but see better reviews on the Grendelhunter than BCA on the Grendel forum. Radical is another lower price lower but it gets mixed reviews. I think on the budget uppers it can be hit or miss, sometimes the miss ones can be improved with a little work like bedding the barrel to the receiver with blue Loctite.
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I couldn't be happier with the performance of the LaRue.

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