Reply
Go Back   TexasBowhunter.com Community Discussion Forums > Topics > Traditional
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-21-2013, 05:01 PM   #1
jnors06
Ten Point
 
jnors06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: wimberley, TX
Hunt In: back behind the house.
Default Fps

I plan on hunting with my recurve this year and have a question about my arrow speed. I am shooting easton aluminum arrows with total arrow weight around 500 grains, my bow is a pse impala 45lb @ 28 inches which is about what i am pulling.

my arrow speed is 156 average. does that sound right? and is that sufficent?

this is the first year i will be seriously trying with my traditional bow, i have played around with it in the past and have always shot split instintivley but starting today i am going to try three under using the gap method as draco described.

thanks for all the input and advice.
jnors06 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 05:10 PM   #2
Loreva13
Pope & Young
 
Loreva13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: El Paso
Hunt In: Iraan, TX, El Paso, TX, Van Horn, TX, and Fort Hancock, TX
Default

From what I understand of traditional archery as long as everything is tuned, you're consistent, and you have confidence your setup will be fine. I've been told that when it comes to trad arrow speed is not as important as a well tuned arrow and consistent form. Good luck and I am sure the more experienced archers will shine in soon.
Loreva13 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 05:17 PM   #3
trad"Doc"53
Pope & Young
 
trad"Doc"53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Belton
Hunt In: None at Present
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loreva13 View Post
From what I understand of traditional archery as long as everything is tuned, you're consistent, and you have confidence your setup will be fine. I've been told that when it comes to trad arrow speed is not as important as a well tuned arrow and consistent form. Good luck and I am sure the more experienced archers will shine in soon.
Great explanation right there^^^^!! Equipment that is well tuned leads to confidence which is really important to me! Of course, don't forget razor sharp broadheads and shot placement.
trad"Doc"53 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 05:19 PM   #4
BowBuddy
Ten Point
 
BowBuddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Antonio Texas
Default

well if you want 170 fps you will need a Sarrels jk. as long as you groups are tight and cosistant you will be good.
BowBuddy is online now   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 05:20 PM   #5
Ol Man
Ten Point
 
Ol Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Default

Just and FYI... many, many moons ago I used a straight limbed longbow... Had the speed of a turtle on stilts... think it came in around 158-160 FPS but, it pulled 72 lbs. Shot a 585 grain arrow from it and managed to take several large hogs, many deer and one bull moose! Shot placement is the key not speed as Larry has stated above!
Ol Man is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 05:31 PM   #6
Phillip Fields
Pope & Young
 
Phillip Fields's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Hunt In: NC,TX, and anywhere else I can
Default

Your setup should work fine if your broadhead is sharp and you can place it where it belongs. But, I don't think I would be changing my style of shooting this close to the season start.
Phillip Fields is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-21-2013, 06:32 PM   #7
Bisch
Pope & Young
 
Bisch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sonora, Tx
Default

Your speed sounds about right.

and

If your setup is well tuned it will work just fine to hunt with.

Bisch
Bisch is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 12:36 PM   #8
jnors06
Ten Point
 
jnors06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: wimberley, TX
Hunt In: back behind the house.
Default

ok so i went home yesterday and slung some arrow, tried the three under and i will not be pursuing that style until next year.

my dad gave me a 40lb@28in ben pearson that i shot for the first time yesterday and man that thing shoots awesome. i think i may use it this year based on how well i shoot with it. Due to it even being lower draw weight and i assume slower i will be limiting my shots to 15yds or so.
jnors06 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 01:00 PM   #9
n8vtxn1
Eight Point
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Wellington, TX
Hunt In: all over
Default

My brother hunts with a 40# bow and has killed several deer with no problems. He shoots at 10-12 yards. Good placement is the key. If you shoot the 40# better go for it.
n8vtxn1 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 02:53 PM   #10
Featherflinger
Ten Point
 
Featherflinger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mineral Wells
Hunt In: Parker, Wise, Throckmorton
Default

I was pretty shocked when I shot my bows thru a chrono. Especially when I hear of all these people getting 195-200+ fps out of their setup. I think I was around 160-170 fps average for my bows with 525 and 550 grain arrows. I've killed a few hogs and deer with mine and I do believe the correctly tuned arrows are way more important than speed. Good luck and enjoy.
Featherflinger is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 03:57 PM   #11
Ol Man
Ten Point
 
Ol Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Default

My bow shoots 176-178 FPS and it kills them pretty good!
Ol Man is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 04:20 PM   #12
Phillip Fields
Pope & Young
 
Phillip Fields's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chesapeake, VA
Hunt In: NC,TX, and anywhere else I can
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherflinger View Post
I was pretty shocked when I shot my bows thru a chrono. Especially when I hear of all these people getting 195-200+ fps out of their setup. I think I was around 160-170 fps average for my bows with 525 and 550 grain arrows. I've killed a few hogs and deer with mine and I do believe the correctly tuned arrows are way more important than speed. Good luck and enjoy.
I'm shocked when I hear the fps some people claim they're getting. On another forum the other day I saw some one claim 184 with his Black Widow. He was drawing 53 lbs at 27 inches and shooting a 545 grain arrow. It might be possible, but I'm skeptical.
Phillip Fields is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 04:23 PM   #13
Ron
Pope & Young
 
Ron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kings Creek Golf Club, Kemp TX
Hunt In: USA, Concho County and S.E.Colorado
Default

I've never chronoed any of my bows, but I kill plenty of critters inside of 20 yards. You practice and put that arrow where your looking and you'll do just fine.

is chrononed a word?
Ron is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 05:08 PM   #14
trad"Doc"53
Pope & Young
 
trad"Doc"53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Belton
Hunt In: None at Present
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron View Post
I've never chronoed any of my bows, but I kill plenty of critters inside of 20 yards. You practice and put that arrow where your looking and you'll do just fine.

is chrononed a word?
Works for me, but I think the proper termonology would be "chronographed". But then again I'm too redneck most of the times to use the fancy terms.
trad"Doc"53 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-22-2013, 07:16 PM   #15
chackworth3
Ten Point
 
chackworth3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Pottsboro, TX
Hunt In: Grayson county, Oklahoma
Default

I figure if you can sling a hunting weight arrow downrange quietly and accurately with good arrow flight snd a razor sharp broadhead you're doing ok. I get about 160-170 with my bow and 500 gr. arrows 42.5@26. A lot of the 190+ fps bows are shooting 9gpp or less arrows with a bare shaft, mechanical release and no string silencers.

Last edited by chackworth3; 08-22-2013 at 07:24 PM.
chackworth3 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-23-2013, 02:39 AM   #16
JW
Banned!!!
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montgomery, Texas
Hunt In: Texas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Default

I have no clue how fast mine is. The arrow flies straight tho...
JW is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-23-2013, 06:31 AM   #17
Restless
Ten Point
 
Restless's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Woodway
Default

FPS is really a selling Point for Compound bows and is not used much if at all on this side of the fence. As stated its more about what you as a Bowhunter bring to the Game.
Restless is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-23-2013, 09:34 AM   #18
jerp
Pope & Young
 
jerp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Aledo
Hunt In: Shackleford Co.
Default

I've never shot mine through a chronograph, but when I plug all my stats into the Stu Miller calculator, it estimates 172fps for my longbow. Not having shot a compound for a few years I kinda forgot how fast they are. I recently shot with a friend who has the latest Bowtech. For comparisons sake, we stood at 20 yards and did the "1,2,3, shoot". Not only was his almost twice as fast, the difference in trajectory looked like slow pitch softball vs. a Nolan Ryan fastball.
jerp is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-23-2013, 10:50 AM   #19
Ol Man
Ten Point
 
Ol Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Default

Having a faster bow just magnifies any tiny mistake you make. Unless you have perfect form and are a shooting machine a slower bow will be far more forgiving for 95% of us! Slow, quiet and accurate wins out over fast, noisy and am I gonna hit where I want any day!
Ol Man is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-23-2013, 01:29 PM   #20
tomcat8910
Ten Point
 
tomcat8910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Livingston, Texas
Hunt In: polk,walker and san jacinto county
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ol Man View Post
Having a faster bow just magnifies any tiny mistake you make. Unless you have perfect form and are a shooting machine a slower bow will be far more forgiving for 95% of us! Slow, quiet and accurate wins out over fast, noisy and am I gonna hit where I want any day!
I'll second what Ol Man says!
tomcat8910 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-24-2013, 08:11 PM   #21
Texas5o
Ten Point
 
Texas5o's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Wimberley, Texas
Hunt In: Haskell County
Default

I agree as well. Speed of the arrow is not what kills. Shot placement does. Along with that, a quiet setup is far more important than speed. If the animal hears the bow and jumps the string it won't be in the same place when the arrow gets there no matter how fast the bow is. Even the fastest compound bows and crossbows can't shoot faster than the speed of sound and it doesn't take an animal long to react to unfamiliar sound.
Texas5o is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-25-2013, 09:54 AM   #22
jmack
Eight Point
 
jmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Paris, TX
Hunt In: Lamar Co./Red River Co.
Default

It seems to me that even knowing what fps your bow shoots is a bit anti-trad.
jmack is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-25-2013, 10:07 AM   #23
Ol Man
Ten Point
 
Ol Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Magnolia, TX
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmack View Post
It seems to me that even knowing what fps your bow shoots is a bit anti-trad.

Not really... as many are compound converts it will give them a sense of exactly what a much slower bow can still do for them!

I like to have an idea as it also allows me to figure out my KE on any given arrow/point bow setup.
Ol Man is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-26-2013, 09:50 AM   #24
jnors06
Ten Point
 
jnors06's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: wimberley, TX
Hunt In: back behind the house.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmack View Post
It seems to me that even knowing what fps your bow shoots is a bit anti-trad.
we were at the range and my buddies where checking their bow so i said watch and and watch this speed demon!! They just kind of chuckled....
jnors06 is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-26-2013, 10:08 AM   #25
Bobby_G
Four Point
 
Bobby_G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Pasadena
Hunt In: Freer...Where men are men, and the sheep are nervous...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron View Post
is chrononed a word?
Adding "chrononed" to my vocabulary...just sounds redneck...
Bobby_G is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-26-2013, 10:37 AM   #26
RickBarbee
Pope & Young
 
RickBarbee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Texas Back Roads
Hunt In: Where I am
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmack View Post
It seems to me that even knowing what fps your bow shoots is a bit anti-trad.
Haa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!!!!

I've been a trad shooter from the beginning, and admittedly I have almost always been a performance freak.

Be 57 soon, and started shooting when I was around 8 or 9.

The faster I can launch a heavy arrow, the better I like it.

Rick
RickBarbee is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-27-2013, 02:44 PM   #27
Selfbowman
Ten Point
 
Selfbowman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Tx
Hunt In: Where ya'll take Me
Default

163 fps 52# @ 28 selfbow . Ask Stan the bowman he owns it now.
Rick by the way he needs one of your fast skinny strings. Please fix him up.
Selfbowman is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-27-2013, 04:24 PM   #28
G Posik
Ten Point
 
G Posik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NW Houston
Hunt In: Any place I can
Default

With my Rick Barbee string my longbow launches a 710 grain arrow at the speed of light. No not really, but it is faster that I can run. The best part is when it hits the mark it is carrying a lot of momentum. i guess one of these days I will shoot it through a chrono just to see how fast. Like said above do not worry about speed.

Glenn
G Posik is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Old 08-27-2013, 06:33 PM   #29
JW
Banned!!!
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montgomery, Texas
Hunt In: Texas, Oklahoma, Kentucky
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selfbowman View Post
163 fps 52# @ 28 selfbow . Ask Stan the bowman he owns it now.
Rick by the way he needs one of your fast skinny strings. Please fix him up.
That is a rocket of a selfbow. :thumbup:
JW is offline   Reply With Quote Back To The Top
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1999-2012, TexasBowhunter.com