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Old 09-13-2017, 05:01 PM   #1
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Green Screen I'm trying to settle an argument. Hypothetically. How far could a ricochet from 17hmr into water or off ground travel? How much force would it carry say at 600 yds? 1000yds? I know there may b possible variables. I'm just looking for educated guess or experience. I mean is it still deadly at that point?


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Old 09-13-2017, 05:02 PM   #2
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Green Screen I'm trying to settle an argument. Hypothetically. How far could a ricochet from 17hmr into water or off ground travel? How much force would it carry say at 600 yds? 1000yds? I know there may b possible variables. I'm just looking for educated guess or experience. I mean is it still deadly at that point?


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So many things would affect that especially the angles
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:04 PM   #3
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As thin as it is, may not be much left if coming off hard ground or rock. But that's just a guess.

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Old 09-13-2017, 05:09 PM   #4
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I had mine sighted in a 300yds, and it was accurate. But a ricochet has too many variables but I'd imagine it'll go a long way!
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:09 PM   #5
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So many things would affect that especially the angles

Say you were shooting downward from elevated position into a pond, could it deflect over a hill directly across from you and then travel 600 yds? And more importantly would that carry enough force to cause any real hurt?


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Old 09-13-2017, 05:14 PM   #6
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Say you were shooting downward from elevated position into a pond, could it deflect over a hill directly across from you and then travel 600 yds? And more importantly would that carry enough force to cause any real hurt?


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Highly doubt it
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:14 PM   #7
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Say you were shooting downward from elevated position into a pond, could it deflect over a hill directly across from you and then travel 600 yds? And more importantly would that carry enough force to cause any real hurt?


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Old 09-13-2017, 05:16 PM   #8
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Shooting at turtles, huh? Lol

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Old 09-13-2017, 05:19 PM   #9
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I've never had a .17hmr ricochet that I can remember. The 17gr. V-Max is a very frangible bullet. It'd probably come apart as it hit the water.

It probably tells on the box. I can't remember how far a .22lr can supposedly travel but it's a good ways.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:19 PM   #10
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I wouldn't volunteer to stand 600 yards downrange and let you try if that is an answer.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:21 PM   #11
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I've never had a .17hmr ricochet that I can remember. The 17gr. V-Max is a very frangible bullet. It'd probably come apart as it hit the water.

It probably tells on the box. I can't remember how far a .22lr can supposedly travel but it's a good ways.
mile(for .22lr)

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Old 09-13-2017, 05:33 PM   #12
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Yep!
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:40 PM   #13
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I couldn't remember if it was 3/4 of a mile or a mile but either way that's a long ways out there

I think as long as you stay away from FMJ's and stick to the bullets that shatter on impact you won't have any problems. Bullet fragments will be all there is to ricochet anywhere.
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Old 09-13-2017, 05:43 PM   #14
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However, iSnipe is showing 41.6 foot pounds of energy at 600 yards with a 20grain V Max. Even without a ricochet, 41.6 isn't enough to do damage. Most likely cut that energy down to 25% due to the bullet tumbling and being reformed after a ricochet, 10 foot pounds would merely leave a bruise.
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:15 PM   #15
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Here's some general info.

http://www.bevfitchett.us/ballistics...roduction.html
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:16 PM   #16
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I couldn't remember if it was 3/4 of a mile or a mile but either way that's a long ways out there

I think as long as you stay away from FMJ's and stick to the bullets that shatter on impact you won't have any problems. Bullet fragments will be all there is to ricochet anywhere.
Fragments flying everywhere is a little scary in itself. I've been in two situations in my life where I was being 'compromised' from stray bullets from a long ways away. Very scary and I don't wish it upon anyone.

Be safe and responsible out there.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:36 PM   #17
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I've done a good bit of shooting at water with tracers. The majority of the bullets fly straight up after hitting the water. At a very low angle they tend to skip once and continue on.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:37 PM   #18
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Fragments flying everywhere is a little scary in itself. I've been in two situations in my life where I was being 'compromised' from stray bullets from a long ways away. Very scary and I don't wish it upon anyone.



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Old 09-13-2017, 07:44 PM   #19
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Thats a perfect round for beavers. Fragile bullet doesnt do much after first impact.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:16 PM   #20
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I have read before that if a bullet hits the water at an angle at or above 10*, it won't ricochet. Sounds like your guy shouldn't get a ricochet.
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Old 09-13-2017, 09:37 PM   #21
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I've always heard that, but I've tried to shoot them across a 3/4 mile wheat field and they didn't get very close.


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