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Old 08-13-2017, 06:31 PM   #1
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I will probably post this in the campfire section as well but I thought I'd get yall's advice first.

I've got 5 (3 are at or above 140 to 160 ) bucks in a bachelor group that are hitting my feeder about an hour after dark and then staying bedded down somewhere within a 20 acre piece of property until they return to the feeder at about 5 am and have been staying until almost 7 am. Their stays seem to get longer each day. So I think I can get a daytime shot in the am on them.

The biggest problem I have is... I have 22 acres of wide open hay field surround by a couple hundred acres of cross fenced hay fields. I have no idea why the bucks are hanging out on my place or how I will get set up on them inside of 20 yds with zero cover. The only thing I have working for me is a large patch of cockleburrs that I can put my pop up in, which will be great until they turn brown and become noisy as all get out to walk through.

I am really wanting to get my daughter or wife on one of these bucks, but that makes it even harder trying to sneak 2 people into the blind.

Did I mention that 4 of the bucks appear to be at least 5 yrs old and a couple are probably 7 or 8 and they are bear a public hunting area so I'm sure they have seen most of the tricks.

I'll strongly consider any and all advice I can get.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:44 PM   #2
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Prepare for them to disappear, when the velvet comes off so does their goodwill toward other bucks. They'll be going their separate ways soon.
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:49 PM   #3
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Set up a hay bale blind and get in early!
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Old 08-13-2017, 06:55 PM   #4
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Mow and rake a narrow trail to the blind so you can walk to it after the "bushes" turn brown and noisy.

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Old 08-13-2017, 06:56 PM   #5
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I was thinking that to Tex. But a hay bail is a good idea for sure


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Old 08-13-2017, 07:02 PM   #6
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Ghillie suit for yourself...... and square bails for a blind, works good. 14JKURX has a great point..
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:25 PM   #7
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:46 PM   #8
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:48 PM   #9
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Mow and rake a narrow trail to the blind so you can walk to it after the "bushes" turn brown and noisy.

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Actually did this after I posted thread. Just got back to see it was posted on here
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:52 PM   #10
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I would agree with ideas already stated: weedeat a path to existing blind area or use a ghillie suit to get close.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:16 PM   #11
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If you've got plenty of wide open , I'd sit back and glass them to see where they are going to bed and which way they are coming to your feeder and then set up to ambush them on their travel route near the feeder instead of waiting for them at the feeder.
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Old 08-13-2017, 09:55 PM   #12
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Here's a few pics, just so we know it happened. Lol
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:02 PM   #13
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For those deer I would spend the night in a hay blind for a few nights.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:22 PM   #14
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For those deer I would spend the night in a hay blind for a few nights.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:22 PM   #15
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For those deer I would spend the night in a hay blind for a few nights.
That option is being considered very seriously.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:23 PM   #16
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Wow!! Are we seeing a 12-pointer in the first pic, along with some 10-point buddies?
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:28 PM   #17
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Hay bale blind and sleeping bag.
Do it.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:32 PM   #18
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Invest in a few big round bales and place in the pasture. One more way your hay blind blind wont stick out.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:52 PM   #19
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Set up a hay bale blind and get in early!
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:58 PM   #20
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Invest in a few big round bales and place in the pasture. One more way your hay blind blind wont stick out.
I've already got hay in the pasture. Thinking I'll re arrange it and stack the bales from the next cutting a little more strategically.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:01 PM   #21
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I think you are on the right track, hunt the wind, get in early, maybe a sleeping bag as suggested by some.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:12 PM   #22
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Now that you found the deer take u a tractor out there and mow a hundred yard circle around feeder. Looks like some good bedding in those pics behind deer, mow it to the ground. Would hate to c a big hog come out of that tall grass and take you legs out from under you. Then go buy you the biggest boxs blind and sleep in it over nite. After you do that text me and tell me if your deer are still there��
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:34 AM   #23
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Seriously if I can't kill a deer with my bow I would just as soon just enjoy watching it live.

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Old 08-14-2017, 09:48 AM   #24
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Now that you found the deer take u a tractor out there and mow a hundred yard circle around feeder. Looks like some good bedding in those pics behind deer, mow it to the ground. Would hate to c a big hog come out of that tall grass and take you legs out from under you. Then go buy you the biggest boxs blind and sleep in it over nite. After you do that text me and tell me if your deer are still there��

I think you're on to something
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:53 AM   #25
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Im with the guys who say hale bale and sleep in it!
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:31 AM   #26
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Good luck. I hope to see your ladies' monster LDPs.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:20 PM   #27
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:29 AM   #28
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:34 AM   #29
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No doubt ! The patterns will definitely change just get in early and stay after them is all you can do you already know they are there so just get after them it's all about timing and luck anyway! Good luck
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Old 08-22-2017, 10:38 AM   #30
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Bucks love tall grass and bedding on a slight rise. It may sound stupid to some but you need to start frequenting the area. Once the bucks get used to your scent, they won't pay you much mind. You need to look close for a very heavy trail seperate from what the other deer are using.

Many times what people would call zero cover is the best cover, especially with light colored clothing.
This type of hunting is exhilarating and requires a new game plan.

FWIW, I only use natural clothing materials in this environment and no synthetic blinds. Those bucks can be very sporting.

If you have to get elevated for the best "rifle shot" chance for your daughter, you can rig up some kind of a blind on a tractor away from the trails. It has to be a tractor or farm implement of some sort.

Where I may differ from the opinions of others is, I've never seen the pattern of a mature buck in grass change. The scenerio coupled with their age, is the "pattern change".

Best of luck

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http://www.woods-n-waternews.com/Art...all-Grass.html

http://www.northamericanwhitetail.co...orgotten_0110/

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Old 08-22-2017, 10:54 AM   #31
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I've got 5 (3 are at or above 140 to 160 ) bucks in a bachelor group that are hitting my feeder about an hour after dark and then staying bedded down somewhere within a 20 acre piece of property until they return to the feeder at about 5 am and have been staying until almost 7 am.
How do you know where they are bedding down? have you observed them in person?

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The biggest problem I have is... I have 22 acres of wide open hay field surround by a couple hundred acres of cross fenced hay fields. I have no idea why the bucks are hanging out on my place or how I will get set up on them inside of 20 yds with zero cover.
They are on your place on camera because you have a feeder and are feeding them (I am guessing based on the game pics you have provided. I know this sounds terribly obvious, but do you have evidence that you actually have cover for them to bed down... or water for them to drink, etc? All of that stuff is important and I can't seem to paint a good description of the property based on your post. If you don't have any of that additional cover/water... then they are mostly likely just there to eat.

And if they are just there to eat, then that is an important thing to note. You need to figure out where they would come from, etc.

Also, I know hindsight is 20/20, but I don't bother corning a place that I don't already have a setup in mind ahead of time. I have been in a similar situation however where I can't move the feeder and I have had to be creative in getting close. In some cases, just putting a blind out in the open and leaving it there for a long time helps... although the deer eventually figure out how to circle the darned thing, etc. The other tactic is to hand corn a spot near the feeder but in a better location for an ambush. Deer will find it pretty darn quick because they are already in the area due to the feeder.

In your situation, I might just consider moving the feeder to a better location where you can get a better setup.
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:49 AM   #32
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Bucks love tall grass and bedding on a slight rise. It may sound stupid to some but you need to start frequenting the area. Once the bucks get used to your scent, they won't pay you much mind. You need to look close for a very heavy trail seperate from what the other deer are using.

Many times what people would call zero cover is the best cover, especially with light colored clothing.
This type of hunting is exhilarating and requires a new game plan.

FWIW, I only use natural clothing materials in this environment and no synthetic blinds. Those bucks can be very sporting.

If you have to get elevated for the best "rifle shot" chance for your daughter, you can rig up some kind of a blind on a tractor away from the trails. It has to be a tractor or farm implement of some sort.

Where I may differ from the opinions of others is, I've never seen the pattern of a mature buck in grass change. The scenerio coupled with their age, is the "pattern change".

Best of luck

A few links on the subject:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/white...ong_grass.html

http://www.woods-n-waternews.com/Art...all-Grass.html

http://www.northamericanwhitetail.co...orgotten_0110/
Yes I've watched them feed in the dark, move away and then I've found them bedded on multiple different locations on my place at night. I have been purposely bumping into them in the dark from a distance for several days now and it doesn't seem to have changed their pattern.

I hunt a bow only country so rifle shot is out.

Biggest problem I have now id's new construction to the north of me and a lot of rain that had prevented me from keeping corn out. Plus a giant hog that loves soured corn
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:51 AM   #33
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How do you know where they are bedding down? have you observed them in person?



They are on your place on camera because you have a feeder and are feeding them (I am guessing based on the game pics you have provided. I know this sounds terribly obvious, but do you have evidence that you actually have cover for them to bed down... or water for them to drink, etc? All of that stuff is important and I can't seem to paint a good description of the property based on your post. If you don't have any of that additional cover/water... then they are mostly likely just there to eat.

And if they are just there to eat, then that is an important thing to note. You need to figure out where they would come from, etc.

Also, I know hindsight is 20/20, but I don't bother corning a place that I don't already have a setup in mind ahead of time. I have been in a similar situation however where I can't move the feeder and I have had to be creative in getting close. In some cases, just putting a blind out in the open and leaving it there for a long time helps... although the deer eventually figure out how to circle the darned thing, etc. The other tactic is to hand corn a spot near the feeder but in a better location for an ambush. Deer will find it pretty darn quick because they are already in the area due to the feeder.

In your situation, I might just consider moving the feeder to a better location where you can get a better setup.

I have 22 acres of wide open pasture minus a few trees beside my house and along the fence rows. Thinking I will move the feeder close to my hay bales or possibly move the hay bales to the feeder
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:54 AM   #34
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I think I crossed my responses but it still makes sense I guess. With the weather and construction issue I haven't seen the bucks in over a week, but I'm hopeful that they will show back up soon. I think I have narrowed it down add to where they are coming into and leading my property. If it goes as planned I'm going to create a more concurrent place for them to cross the fence that just happens to be in a lot more Huntable area
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:14 PM   #35
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I am thinking this is a solo operation. The two person theory on the op is a bad idea IMHO. If you are able to catch them on Oct 1 and they haven't gone their separate ways you are still dealing with several mature deer at close range. This with two people and lack of cover and the added scent will drop a grenade on your chances of success. Again just my thoughts and anything can happen! Good Luck!
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:15 PM   #36
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Great ideas. To summarize:
1) Hay bale blind

2) Or don't hunt the feeder-glass and set up plan for path to feeder
3) Save your $$$ and put out your own hay bales
4) you might also consider digging a shallow hole in that cover (b/h deer in pics) for a natural ground blind

This has the makings for Texas Trophy Hunter magazine article. Accept the challenge. Good luck.
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:50 PM   #37
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Little update......They are back! Been gone for almost a full week. But camera shows them back 2 nights in a row
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:25 PM   #38
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:57 PM   #40
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I'd keep feeding them, and running your camera, but leave them alone for the most part right now. Maybe try and set something up away from the feeder with some hand scattered corn and wait and hunt it when the wind is right. Is there any cover or terrain where the deer can't circle behind you on a south wind, because that's what we predominately have early season. Or you could have a North wind setup. Just make sure and only hunt it when the wind is right, and get into your setup super early like others have said. I'd try and hunt away from the feeder over hand scattered corn. I wouldn't put in a cheapy store bought blind that sticks out like a sore thumb. Maybe go ahead and stack a couple of round bales close together and use natural brush to brush in a blind leaving you a little hole to shoot through. I wouldn't use anything that didn't look natural and blend in to the surroundings. Even a hay bale blind can stick out if it looks different from all the other hay bales. Definitely a solo operation if your serious about getting one of the older bucks.

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Old 08-23-2017, 04:14 PM   #42
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DIY hay bale blind

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Old 08-23-2017, 04:23 PM   #43
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Own any night vision?
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Old 08-23-2017, 04:40 PM   #44
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:01 AM   #45
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Couple of them are hard horned now, and have already stopped frequenting the feeder as often as they were. Figured this happen.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:14 AM   #46
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Keep feeding, place hay bales strategically, slowly move feeder times closer to shooting light. Increase the feed. Maybe consider adding a water source on the way to the feeder. Keep a path clear for you to walk on. Spend a few nights in the blind. I think these are all good ideas.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:17 AM   #47
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Don't hunt it unless wind is 100% perfect. Limit your time there. Wait for the rut, hunt the perfect day and hope one of them messes up. You'll probably only have 1 opportunity. They are there for a reason, because its unhuntable. I have never heard of staying overnight working. Wouldn't know how you would remain scent free for 12+ hours. Don't over check that camera or do many changes this close to season. You know the bucks are in the area, unless its a cell camera, I would stop running it, if you have to check it weekly.
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