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Old 09-25-2018, 11:52 AM   #51
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Shoot it
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:53 AM   #52
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Easy legal.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:59 AM   #53
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If him being 13" is the only thing holding you back, shoot him.
This. AR's were meant to protect young deer.. He's not young.. Besides I think he will be real close to 13".
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:00 PM   #54
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With that second beam I agree with the antlerlamps guy


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No he won’t. Sorry. This 13 inch rule is so stupid. In three more generations in antler restricted counties I bet the average spread is 11 inches.

Completely disagree. The only place Ive ever really deer hunted in Texas has been in my family since 1970. Growing up a 10" 8 point was a sure enough booner. We're at the point now where 120-130" 8s are a dime a dozen and we consistently see deer to near 150". As a kid you did well to see a single buck in a weekend. At the right time I can pass 6 and 7 legal bucks in one sitting now. 90% of the land around us hasnt changed hands in that time so its not the hunters being more ethical

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Old 09-25-2018, 12:02 PM   #55
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You will know for sure when he steps out.
Pics can be deceiving. So can big ole mature deer.
I'd shoot him all day long on Sat and twice on Sun!!!
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:03 PM   #56
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Has anyone actually had a GW give them permission to kill a less than 13 inch deer?
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:22 PM   #57
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:27 PM   #58
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This. The rule has helped drastically, and the number of deer that never reach 13" in their lifetime has got to be very small. This deer will be close.
Nope. Shame he is “bent.”

The widest deer get killed quicker before they spread much of the gene. Most of our best youngsters get killed quickly in Leon co by neighbors. Narrow bucks get an extra year or two to breed. Evolution takes time, but it works for traits needed to survive.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:46 PM   #59
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yes he is legal. That is a mature deer and easily 15" ear tip to ear tip. His right side 2nd beam makes him legal and i will say he is 14"-15" wide.

He is 2" outside his ear on the left side.
i agree with you he will make 13
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:52 PM   #60
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A shade over 13 and definitely mature he is a shooter in my opinion!
this.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:58 PM   #61
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[QUOTE=oktx;13647496]Has anyone actually had a GW give them permission to kill a less than 13 inch deer?[/QUOTE

I highly doubt it. Good luck trying to get ahold of them. The last few times I haven't even gotten a call back. It's kind of disappointing.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:59 PM   #62
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pretty easy to reach your GW - I'd shoot him a pic and ask - (I would never plan for "grace" given by the GW cuz the downside isn't worth it when it's easy enough to just reach out with pics in hand ahead of time. imo) that'll give you peace of mind and you can hunt him with a clear conscience instead of wondering. He's a cool looking deer - best of luck
I agree, I wouldn't count on "Grace", hence the SSS comment (which I would obviously leave the shovel part out and eat the deer). For the record, when I said "grace" the correct word should have been "cushion". We did kill one deer one year that ran onto a neighbors property that had a spike on one side and normal rack on the other. We called the GW because of the neighbor issue. Turns out the buck had a tine that went along it's neck and wasn't visible on the "Spike Side". The gave us a warning for that, but it was mature deer which I"m sure factored in.
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:07 PM   #63
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I'm going to say he makes 13", especially going off the second mainbeam. Looks like he's got age on his side, so comparing horns to ears width, I'd bet with comfort on him making it.


For a comparison, I shot this buck last year on Christmas. Late season he was run down, but still had a big framed body (6.5yo plus by tooth wear) and was a whopping 12 3/4" wide stretching the tape for all it had.
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:11 PM   #64
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:22 PM   #65
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Legal Deer
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:45 PM   #66
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That buck is a hoss I would not hesitate to shoot him! As mature and big bodied as he is, he's wider than you think. I'd say hes 15 or so.
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:51 PM   #67
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kill him, hes legal!!!!!
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Old 09-25-2018, 01:58 PM   #68
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Definitely a mature deer. Centerline eye to eye on a typical whitetail is right at 6". Using that as a guide and scaling it out on the pic, I think he is right there at 13". **** sure a close one to call.
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Old 09-25-2018, 02:03 PM   #69
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Has anyone actually had a GW give them permission to kill a less than 13 inch deer?
That's like asking a highway patrol to give you permission to go above the posted speed limit because you're an excellent driver. The law is the law. They will not give you permission to break it. Now they may give a warning after the law is broken but I wouldn't bank on that.

OP, that buck is 13". Good luck getting him!
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Old 09-25-2018, 02:43 PM   #70
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That's like asking a highway patrol to give you permission to go above the posted speed limit because you're an excellent driver. The law is the law. They will not give you permission to break it. Now they may give a warning after the law is broken but I wouldn't bank on that.

OP, that buck is 13". Good luck getting him!
That’s what I was thinking.
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Old 09-25-2018, 03:46 PM   #71
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Not legal. His ears are back in those pics and not out....
just my opinion.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:12 PM   #72
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:21 PM   #73
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Looks like 12 7/8" to me. Need to get in the MLDP then it won't mater.
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:27 PM   #74
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The gw will always lean on the side of caution when questioned, we won’t. Shoot that son of a gun!!
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Old 09-25-2018, 04:29 PM   #75
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With that second beam I agree with the antlerlamps guy





Completely disagree. The only place Ive ever really deer hunted in Texas has been in my family since 1970. Growing up a 10" 8 point was a sure enough booner. We're at the point now where 120-130" 8s are a dime a dozen and we consistently see deer to near 150". As a kid you did well to see a single buck in a weekend. At the right time I can pass 6 and 7 legal bucks in one sitting now. 90% of the land around us hasnt changed hands in that time so its not the hunters being more ethical

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This ^^^^^

Oh, and OP, I think your deer is legal. Good Luck this year!

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Old 09-25-2018, 10:15 PM   #76
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I’d have to measure him on the ground.
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:50 AM   #77
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He's 13". Good luck!

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Old 09-26-2018, 03:58 AM   #78
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He is 14" easily. Draw, release, shank, skin, cook, and eat.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:10 AM   #79
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He will make the cut being mature his head is wider so his ears from top to top will be well over 13
That was my first thought.

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That's like asking a highway patrol to give you permission to go above the posted speed limit because you're an excellent driver. The law is the law. They will not give you permission to break it. Now they may give a warning after the law is broken but I wouldn't bank on that.

OP, that buck is 13". Good luck getting him!
I'd be surprised if a GW, in front of any witnesses, gave someone permission to break a game law...
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:14 AM   #80
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Legal.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:26 AM   #81
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I bet he is closer to 15" than 13"
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:29 AM   #82
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Average deer ear length is 6 inches. If you are able to use the green line with the kicker tine, then I think he is legal. If you have to use the red line, then I dont think he makes 13".

I'd show some pic to the GW and get his input.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:38 AM   #83
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I love these 13'' threads!!!

That buck is a shooter.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:54 AM   #84
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Nothing but Improvements in my AR counties. 10-15 yrs ago 2-3 yr olds were 10"-12" wide. Now my 2-3 yr olds are 16"-20" wide. Yes they get killed by neighbors being they are legal but the quality of bucks is so much better.

I have my disagreements with the rule when it comes to youth but as far as antler growth it was a great move by the state.
Totally agree!
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