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Old 05-20-2018, 06:50 PM   #1
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I built this trap with parts from Amazon and after some design modifications it's working good....so far just two large boars.

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Old 05-20-2018, 06:53 PM   #2
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It's a good start ! Hopefully you'll get a sounder in there soon.

Details on your trigger mechanism ?
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:08 PM   #3
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It's a good start ! Hopefully you'll get a sounder in there soon.

Details on your trigger mechanism ?
12 volt security door latch from securitron on amazon

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Old 05-20-2018, 07:12 PM   #4
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We’ve been wanting to do this w our trap
How do you activate it w the cell phone?
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:20 PM   #5
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A do it yourself build would be nice or material list??????///
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:20 PM   #6
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I use a GSM relay with an ATT SIM prepaid SIM card...i am building another system this week and welding up another round pen and gate...
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:22 PM   #7
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Nasty looking sucker



Oh, big hog also
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:32 PM   #8
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In for more info on the build.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:33 PM   #9
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:36 PM   #10
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Nasty looking sucker



Oh, big hog also
I am building a system for your brother and the price just went way up..

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Old 05-20-2018, 10:27 PM   #11
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I am building a system for your brother and the price just went way up..

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Old 05-20-2018, 11:24 PM   #12
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I am building a system for your brother and the price just went way up..

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Could you PM me with some build details?
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Old 05-20-2018, 11:32 PM   #13
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In for the build. Nice work.
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:15 AM   #14
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:46 AM   #15
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Good job on the trap. You had to know everyone was going to be asking you detailed step by step instructions on how to make it.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:10 AM   #16
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Good job on the trap. You had to know everyone was going to be asking you detailed step by step instructions on how to make it.
When I feel 100% confident in the system and it has been in the field for a while I will give final design, I have had signal strength and voltage issues which I think have been solved. I installed a 40 amp automotive relay from advance auto to protect the contacts on the control board
And I might need a diode across the load, I am building a system for a friend who is going to be my beta tester, and my goal is to teach him how to use it successfully with minimal tech support. Communication with the trap is through SMS text messaging and the trap will send status confirmations also but last night it sent the number 1 to me and my son, I am not sure why. I posted a picture of a communication with the trap
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:47 AM   #17
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:36 AM   #18
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In for details. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:42 AM   #19
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We built one also. It works great and had caught near 100 hogs before we left our lease. The biggest issue we had was cell service with ATT. We used a bigger antenna and a booster to help with that.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:49 AM   #20
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In for build details
I want to doctor something like this up to turn on/off a well pump to water my garden/fruit trees
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:52 AM   #21
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Looks good!

I was thinking of building one for a while and never got around to it.

You can use a relay something like this to close the latch:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-DC-cell...YAAOSwMpZUolOq
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:31 AM   #22
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Thats awesome!
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Old 05-21-2018, 02:18 PM   #23
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When I feel 100% confident in the system and it has been in the field for a while I will give final design, I have had signal strength and voltage issues which I think have been solved. I installed a 40 amp automotive relay from advance auto to protect the contacts on the control board
And I might need a diode across the load, I am building a system for a friend who is going to be my beta tester, and my goal is to teach him how to use it successfully with minimal tech support. Communication with the trap is through SMS text messaging and the trap will send status confirmations also but last night it sent the number 1 to me and my son, I am not sure why. I posted a picture of a communication with the trap

It looks like the GSM went into the "Verification Mode".

You said you have yours and your sons numbers programed into it but its showing 3 contacts.
Who is the 3rd number? I think any of the remaining numbers can activate the GSM but only the first 2 get feedback from the unit.

Is it possible that someone butt dialed the controller?

Another thing ----- It could also be that there was a power surge or lightning strike that triggered the number verification- either where the trap is or even where the tower that transmits the signal from.
Did the actual trap activate on its own?

I'm curious to know what it was if you figure it out.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:10 PM   #24
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:21 PM   #25
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good job. those two might of been worth hauling to a buyer if you had one in the area.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:49 PM   #26
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Great idea...
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:37 PM   #27
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What are y'all using to receive the SMS/cell phone signal then transmit a electric pulse to the gate lock to shut it?



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Looks good!

I was thinking of building one for a while and never got around to it.

You can use a relay something like this to close the latch:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-DC-cell...YAAOSwMpZUolOq
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It looks like the GSM went into the "Verification Mode".

You said you have yours and your sons numbers programed into it but its showing 3 contacts.
Who is the 3rd number? I think any of the remaining numbers can activate the GSM but only the first 2 get feedback from the unit.

Is it possible that someone butt dialed the controller?

Another thing ----- It could also be that there was a power surge or lightning strike that triggered the number verification- either where the trap is or even where the tower that transmits the signal from.
Did the actual trap activate on its own?

I'm curious to know what it was if you figure it out.
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:39 PM   #28
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Old 05-21-2018, 06:59 PM   #29
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Following for build details
Nice start on hogs
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:35 PM   #30
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Also in on this one, very interesting what some green screen members come up with!
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Old 05-21-2018, 09:42 PM   #31
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It looks like the GSM went into the "Verification Mode".

You said you have yours and your sons numbers programed into it but its showing 3 contacts.
Who is the 3rd number? I think any of the remaining numbers can activate the GSM but only the first 2 get feedback from the unit.

Is it possible that someone butt dialed the controller?

Another thing ----- It could also be that there was a power surge or lightning strike that triggered the number verification- either where the trap is or even where the tower that transmits the signal from.
Did the actual trap activate on its own?

I'm curious to know what it was if you figure it out.
You are correct I had my number listed twice in the whitelist, after it sent1 to me and my son he checked the covert cam and it didn't actuate the trap. However someone called the gsm about three weeks ago and actuated the trap because I didn't activate the ACM security, we tried to call the trap with unauthorized number and it did block it..its been a learning process
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:02 AM   #32
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Could you PM me with some build details?
When you feel like the bugs are worked out, I would like to know how much you would change to build one for me. Thank you and fascinating write up
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Old 05-22-2018, 04:10 AM   #33
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You are correct I had my number listed twice in the whitelist, after it sent1 to me and my son he checked the covert cam and it didn't actuate the trap. However someone called the gsm about three weeks ago and actuated the trap because I didn't activate the ACM security, we tried to call the trap with unauthorized number and it did block it..its been a learning process
Sounds like you got it working pretty good. Those Chinese instructions are kinda confusing.
Without the security activated, the robo /spam callers will set it off for you.
Are you running any additional white light or IR to help with the Covert viewing at night?
I'm on proto type #4 - I've been doing it since there were only 2G units out there. Its been an evolving process to say the least.
Looks like you got it whipped.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:06 AM   #34
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Sounds like you got it working pretty good. Those Chinese instructions are kinda confusing.
Without the security activated, the robo /spam callers will set it off for you.
Are you running any additional white light or IR to help with the Covert viewing at night?
I'm on proto type #4 - I've been doing it since there were only 2G units out there. Its been an evolving process to say the least.
Looks like you got it whipped.
I am not running additional IR lights with the covert, I do need to get the camera higher and looking down into the trap, you are correct about the Chinese instructions they are difficult to understand, I was reluctant to put the flash drive they provided in my computer i figured it was infested with spyware or some other form of treachery but so far no problems. I have not figured out how to use the communication cable provided with the gsm so I just set up the GSM by SMS texting it instructions. One very important thing I learned the hard way is to have the voicemail option and PIN removed from the AT&T SIM card, I spent an hour at the AT&T store trying to get this done they didn't understand why I didn't want voicemail, I told them it was for a pig trap and then I got the thousand yard stare from them, next time i will tell them its for a gate closer. Make them test the SIM before leaving the store.
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:25 AM   #35
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I am not running additional IR lights with the covert, I do need to get the camera higher and looking down into the trap, you are correct about the Chinese instructions they are difficult to understand, I was reluctant to put the flash drive they provided in my computer i figured it was infested with spyware or some other form of treachery but so far no problems. I have not figured out how to use the communication cable provided with the gsm so I just set up the GSM by SMS texting it instructions. One very important thing I learned the hard way is to have the voicemail option and PIN removed from the AT&T SIM card, I spent an hour at the AT&T store trying to get this done they didn't understand why I didn't want voicemail, I told them it was for a pig trap and then I got the thousand yard stare from them, next time i will tell them its for a gate closer. Make them test the SIM before leaving the store.
You are right - ATT is not very helpful and I'm guessing its because its not something that they can make a residual income / upgrades from.
As far as setting up the camera, yes higher is better. And just what I have found is to set the camera where you can see into the trap but also where you can see the outside as well. This is to monitor if you have "trap shy" animals that lurk on the perimeter.
I bought a Sniper feeder light setup a couple of weeks ago for 2 purposes - One is security lighting at our barn and 2 - where I can set it up and flood the entire area with IR- Still just trying out different combos on what works ----
Enjoy seeing your progress -
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Old 05-22-2018, 06:33 AM   #36
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My GSM uses the larger "Old style" SIM card and that creates problems for the AT&T people, they had to dig an old flip phone up to test my card. Can I use a SIM card adapter and use the smaller card in the GSM card slot??
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:04 AM   #37
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You will cuss that securitron latch before it’s all said and done. They jam up way to easy.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:08 AM   #38
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:12 AM   #39
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Does anyone have a way to use Verizon instead of AT&T?
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My GSM uses the larger "Old style" SIM card and that creates problems for the AT&T people, they had to dig an old flip phone up to test my card. Can I use a SIM card adapter and use the smaller card in the GSM card slot??
I honestly do not know if the smaller sim can be used with an adaptor in place of a larger one. As you have probably seen, there are several different variations of the foreign GSM’s out there. Nothing that I have used had a harness as you mentioned earlier. I pat and pieces what I needed and built my own.
That about where our similarities end (at the gsm) and then pickup at the round type trap - triggering systems are completely different.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:05 AM   #42
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I know install a plug under my boxes and use extensions cords to drop as many doors as you want at one time. Use a pay as you go SIM card. These southco latches are probably the best latches in my opinion. I haven’t had a single problem with the latch.
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Does anyone have a way to use Verizon instead of AT&T?
On eBay I saw verzion gsm controllers
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