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Originally posted by txwhitetail View PostCan you define "works" ?
Works, worked, work- accomplished or finished
Culling is a lame excuse to shoot a buck to get around self imposed limitations. It does not accomplish anything as far as quality of the deer herd, to many variables. Besides, all whitetails have enough good genetics, that if you feed them and let them grow they will fulfill their potential.
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Originally posted by lovemylegacy View PostAny time I am talking management, I am referring to wild free ranging whitetails. Not penned deer.
Works, worked, work- accomplished or finished
Culling is a lame excuse to shoot a buck to get around self imposed limitations. It does not accomplish anything as far as quality of the deer herd, to many variables. Besides, all whitetails have enough good genetics, that if you feed them and let them grow they will fulfill their potential.
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Originally posted by lovemylegacy View PostAny time I am talking management, I am referring to wild free ranging whitetails. Not penned deer.
Works, worked, work- accomplished or finished
Culling is a lame excuse to shoot a buck to get around self imposed limitations. It does not accomplish anything as far as quality of the deer herd, to many variables. Besides, all whitetails have enough good genetics, that if you feed them and let them grow they will fulfill their potential.
And yes I believe every buck can reach his full potential, but that 6.5 130" 8 points potential might just be a 145" 9 at his best, and isn't why we why or why we want to be feeding when we also have a 170" 6.5 11 at the same spot, you take the risk that the 11 has more potential than the 8 and take the 8 out and allow the 11 to spread his genes and have more access to feed now that the feed pen bully is dead. That's "culling" to me and our program
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Originally posted by barnag View PostA "scrub" one year does not mean he will be a "scrub" the next.
Blindly shooting deer with no history is not smart, nor would it be something any quality manager would advocate.
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Originally posted by Encinal View PostWhy do you want to let a scrub be the best scrub he can be?
I mean whats wrong with a 140 class 8? Personally, I would love to shoot one
Knowing your deer herd, how does "Cruiser" or One time bucks figure into that? Every year we get bucks coming through that none of have seen, how do they figure into the whole scheme?Last edited by lovemylegacy; 12-28-2017, 07:57 PM.
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Originally posted by lovemylegacy View PostYou are assuming he will always be like that. I understand the "removing a mouth" concept, but if that's all it is, take a doe and let that buck live...you really have no idea how he will turn out.
I mean whats wrong with a 140 class 8? Personally, I would love to shoot one
Knowing your deer herd, how does "Cruiser" or One time bucks figure into that? Every year we get bucks coming through that none of have seen, how do they figure into the whole scheme?
Does serve a different purpose in your deer herd than bucks, that’s why. And yes I do have an idea how he will turn out.
What makes you think a deer I call a scrub is ever going to get to 120?
Cruisers can be patterned too. Lots of times they cruise the same way at the same time once they get to a certain age.
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Originally posted by lovemylegacy View PostYou are assuming he will always be like that. I understand the "removing a mouth" concept, but if that's all it is, take a doe and let that buck live...you really have no idea how he will turn out.
I mean whats wrong with a 140 class 8? Personally, I would love to shoot one
Knowing your deer herd, how does "Cruiser" or One time bucks figure into that? Every year we get bucks coming through that none of have seen, how do they figure into the whole scheme?
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Originally posted by txwhitetail View PostYou live in the land of exceptions and not the rule. Sure a junky 6 pt at three year old “may” reach 125” at seven but I don’t know a serious ranch on the planet that want to feed/house bucks 7 years to shoot 120s. Sorry to break it to you but genetics play a role in all living organisms. Even if the junkiest buck on the ranch only breeds 2-3 Doe a year count up the multiples of times he has spread those genetics but age 6 or 7. You can keep the junky stuff till maturity all you want...ranches focused on the top end surely won’t.
That comes into play with how much Land you have or the size of the fence.
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