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Old 03-29-2019, 09:31 AM   #1
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Iíve been dealing with my arms if they are bent for more than a few minutes or if they are raised above chest level. Itís causing me to wake up 5+ times a night completely numb and tingling from about biceps down... only way to sleep without an issue is on my back with arms by my side (uncomfortable as all get out) anyone dealt with something similar?
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:35 AM   #2
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One of the guys I work with is havin same problem. Went to doctor doctor and has to have neck surgery. You may not have to do that but would get it checked out
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You might want to get checked for a bulged neck disc they cause a lot of tingling and numbness in your arms when the problem is in your neck ?
I had the same symptoms in my arms and a couple years later I got the bad pain from a pinched nerve in c6-7 might be worth a check from a neurologist
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Also might go to chiropractor.
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:38 AM   #5
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Here! Bought a new bed, helped a ton. Doc says neck surgery, however to suck it up for as long as I can.
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Neck or lifting a lot, I get the same every night


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I have the same issue... what does arm falling a sleep have to do with your neck? not that I do not believe you guys I just thought it was cus I was sleeping on hand or arm for to long???
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I’ve been dealing with my arms if they are bent for more than a few minutes or if they are raised above chest level. It’s causing me to wake up 5+ times a night completely numb and tingling from about biceps down... only way to sleep without an issue is on my back with arms by my side (uncomfortable as all get out) anyone dealt with something similar?
I'm currently dealing with something similar but not to that extent. Started in my left hand and pinky but slowly spread to half of my hand and radiating up into my arm/elbow. Complete numbness and tingling sensation as if I hit my funny bone really hard. It would flare up and subside but never go away completely. I couldn't pinpoint what activity was triggering the flare-ups. Like you, it would prevent me from sleeping.

After several weeks, I made a trip to the chiro. Turned out I have a compressed or "entrapped" nerve somewhere. Pretty common. From what I was told, the ulnar nerve is typically the culprit for hand tingling/numbness.

She asked if I sit at a desk for prolonged periods of time with my elbow rested on a hard surface. "yes. All day, every day. I use my right hand on my mouse so my left arm is usually resting on the desk." Also, I have a spot on my truck door that is worn from resting my elbow in the same spot all the time while driving.

Then asked if my chair was possibly too short for the desk, moving the pressure back a bit onto the fleshy, underside of the elbow rather than the point. "Yes. Just switched desk chairs a few weeks back for better back support and it's a bit shorter."

After a few weeks of stretching and being conscious of how I'm resting my arm, the sensation is all but gone. Sounds like what you're experiencing is a bit more severe but figured i'd share as I am currently dealing with this. Good luck finding a remedy, bud. Hope its something as simple as mine.

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I have the same issue... what does arm falling a sleep have to do with your neck? not that I do not believe you guys I just thought it was cus I was sleeping on hand or arm for to long???
Pinches the nerves restricting blood flow is my guess
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The nerves that run down your arms come out of small openings between your neck vertebrae then pressure on your nerves cause all kinds of weird things to happen and when it gets bad enough there is a ton of pain that doesn't go away
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Iíve been dealing with my arms if they are bent for more than a few minutes or if they are raised above chest level. Itís causing me to wake up 5+ times a night completely numb and tingling from about biceps down... only way to sleep without an issue is on my back with arms by my side (uncomfortable as all get out) anyone dealt with something similar?
I've had the same EXACT issue for the last couple of years. It get's old but I haven't done anything about it. I'm too stubborn and cheap to go to a doctor for anything so I'm curious what you find out LOL.
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I'm not saying that is what is going on with you but it could be and if you catch it early changing habits and physical therapy can fix you without neck fusion surgery
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I'm currently dealing with something similar but not to that extent. Started in my left hand and pinky but slowly spread to half of my hand and radiating up into my arm/elbow. Complete numbness and tingling sensation as if I hit my funny bone really hard. It would flare up and subside but never go away completely. I couldn't pinpoint what activity was triggering the flare-ups. Like you, it would prevent me from sleeping.

After several weeks, I made a trip to the chiro. Turned out I have a compressed or "entrapped" nerve somewhere. Pretty common. From what I was told, the ulnar nerve is typically the culprit for hand tingling/numbness.

She asked if I sit at a desk for prolonged periods of time with my elbow rested on a hard surface. "yes. All day, every day. I use my right hand on my mouse so my left arm is usually resting on the desk." Also, I have a spot on my truck door that is worn from resting my elbow in the same spot all the time while driving.

Then asked if my chair was possibly too short for the desk, moving the pressure back a bit onto the fleshy, underside of the elbow rather than the point. "Yes. Just switched desk chairs a few weeks back for better back support and it's a bit shorter."

After a few weeks of stretching and being conscious of how I'm resting my arm, the sensation is all but gone. Sounds like what you're experiencing is a bit more severe but figured i'd share as I am currently dealing with this. Good luck finding a remedy, bud. Hope its something as simple as mine.

https://orthoinfo.aaos.org/en/diseas...unnel-syndrome

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Thanks for that info guess i need to schedule with someone... lots of lifting with my work so Iím sure something is job related is likely
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:57 AM   #15
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About a hundred different possibilities. If you have been working out a lot, it could be entrapment of the brachial plexus. For every "front muscle" (pectoralis maj/min., anterior delts, etc.) exercise, you should be doing 2 "back muscle" (trap, rhomboid, post. delt, etc.) . If you over develop the front, you will start getting entrapment of the nerves when your arms are in front of you. Look up thoracic outlet syndrome as well.

Most likely, there is some neck involvement as well. You could have a slight to moderate encroachment at the neck, then a slight to moderate in the shoulder girdle. This would lead to moderate to severe symptoms.

The nerves that innervate the arm can be entrapped in multiple different places, but the most common are the neck, shoulder, elbow, then wrist. It could be a combination of all of the above.
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I'm not saying that is what is going on with you but it could be and if you catch it early changing habits and physical therapy can fix you without neck fusion surgery
Absolutely thanks for the info!
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Old 03-29-2019, 09:58 AM   #17
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Thanks for that info guess i need to schedule with someone... lots of lifting with my work so Iím sure something is job related is likely
I initially noticed it when lifting at the gym. Heavy weights certainly didn't help. Going a bit lighter in the gym was also part of my prescribed recovery.
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I had the same thing happening to me. Come to find out for me it's was the new bed we bought. I can sleep on my side on the couch or guessed room with no problems but in our new bed it happens every time.
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About a hundred different possibilities. If you have been working out a lot, it could be entrapment of the brachial plexus. For every "front muscle" (pectoralis maj/min., anterior delts, etc.) exercise, you should be doing 2 "back muscle" (trap, rhomboid, post. delt, etc.) . If you over develop the front, you will start getting entrapment of the nerves when your arms are in front of you. Look up thoracic outlet syndrome as well.

Most likely, there is some neck involvement as well. You could have a slight to moderate encroachment at the neck, then a slight to moderate in the shoulder girdle. This would lead to moderate to severe symptoms.

The nerves that innervate the arm can be entrapped in multiple different places, but the most common are the neck, shoulder, elbow, then wrist. It could be a combination of all of the above.
Thanks Andy! Ya weíll Iím pretty active with lifting boxes for a living then gym 4-5x a week... it feels as if sometimes like if i hold my phone an text for a few minutes as if blood flow is being restricted right at the arm pit... i drop my hands shake then and theyíre fine.
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Could be early signs of carpel tunnel syndrome. I had it, it started like that, then had to sleep propped up, then sitting up on the couch, then sitting on the floor with arms up and crossed on the coffee table, then finally had enough that I went to the DR. Might have them check for that.
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I had the same problem a few years ago. Mine got so bad that in addition to my hands falling asleep at night, I had trouble with using my hands for detailed tasks. Mine was due to a nerve being restricted by my pectoralis minor muscle. I started doing pec. stretches and it went away in a few weeks.

Not sure if this is the same problem but it is an easy thing to try.
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I would recommend Mischer Neuroscience institute at memorial Herman in the woodlands they should be able to tell you something about what's going on
My Doc Said that neck problems are going to be a epidemic with all the phone and computer use now looking down at a screen all day
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:13 AM   #24
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I delt with this for a long time, went away when, for other reasons, I went on the keto diet, been on it about 10 months and it has not returned.
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I do. Neck disc is to blame.
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One of the guys I work with is havin same problem. Went to doctor doctor and has to have neck surgery. You may not have to do that but would get it checked out
^^^^^this. Mine do this and my C2 and C3 are the culprits.
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Old 03-29-2019, 10:49 AM   #27
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Another thing it can be is the veins/nerves in your elbow. I get this a lot when I sit with elbows bent or lay down facing up with a tablet. Being a programmer,I have to get up and walk every 20 minutes to keep my arms from being bent like that too long. What you described about your phone is same thing I first noticed. I'm same way,run and lift every day (well less now since I hurt my achilles and forearm).
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if your around the Conroe area are looking for a chiropractor I recommend Sandstone Chiropractic off of League Line
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I've had the same problem, docs told me it was carpal tunnel and tried to convince me I needed surgery to cure what ailed me, I thought they were full of it so I tried several other avenues. Turns out I was right, a few visits to the chiropractor, no more numbness and tingling in my hands and arms!
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About a hundred different possibilities. If you have been working out a lot, it could be entrapment of the brachial plexus. For every "front muscle" (pectoralis maj/min., anterior delts, etc.) exercise, you should be doing 2 "back muscle" (trap, rhomboid, post. delt, etc.) . If you over develop the front, you will start getting entrapment of the nerves when your arms are in front of you. Look up thoracic outlet syndrome as well.

Most likely, there is some neck involvement as well. You could have a slight to moderate encroachment at the neck, then a slight to moderate in the shoulder girdle. This would lead to moderate to severe symptoms.

The nerves that innervate the arm can be entrapped in multiple different places, but the most common are the neck, shoulder, elbow, then wrist. It could be a combination of all of the above.


I agree with this completely! More than likely I imagine you can possibly skip having surgery done at this time if you will go visit a good PT. I would guess some entrapment issues are present and could be more than 1 site. As he stated above check into thoracic outlet syndrome as a possibility and if going to PT they should screen for this but if not ask questions!


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A guy at church had this issue.
A disc had degenerated, pinching a nerve. Had surgery to replace the disc.
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Could be early signs of carpel tunnel syndrome. I had it, it started like that, then had to sleep propped up, then sitting up on the couch, then sitting on the floor with arms up and crossed on the coffee table, then finally had enough that I went to the DR. Might have them check for that.
Exactly what I had. Pain in the middle of the night became unbearable. Went to the hand specialist and not only did I have carpel tunnel, but had cubital tunnel in my elbow and pronator teres syndrome in my forearm. All from these years of throwing 15,000 pitches of BP each year.
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Definitely worth checking out, I would guess something nerve related around any of your cervical vertebrae. I used to do neuromonitoring for spinal surgeries and C1-C8 mainly the lower to mid cervical vertebrae deal with arm and hand tingling and numbness.

Also, when positioned during surgery, we had to monitor for loss of muscular activity and nerve response when arms were raised to make sure brachial plexus was positioned correctly.
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X1000. Especially for a condition that could be attributable to cervical disc issues. Last thing you need is an "adjustment" to your cervical spine.
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Guess I’ll start the search for a doctor Ill try an keep every posted as apparently I’m not alone lol
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It's happened to me before. I think its just my arm being bent so long that it cuts the circulation off in my brachial artery and my arm goes to sleep. I've noticed it at night since it wakes me up with my arm tingling. I stretch my arm out and move it around a little and the circulation kicks back in.
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Good luck. I would definitely check with a PT, Airrosti, ortho, etc. Yours sounds pretty severe.

I deal with it from time to time, but have never been able to pinpoint it other than weight, anytime I begin to push back over 280 I start having numbness in my fingers and hands when I am walking around or standing/sitting still. Cut back down and poof, gone.

I generally stay lean between 250-265 now, and doesn't happen.
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Pinches the nerves restricting blood flow is my guess
This is exactly what's going on. My wife has this issue really bad and she has spinal issues that cause it to happen all day everyday. Spinal Stenosis I believe is what it is.
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I just assumed if it was a pinched nerve or something disc related I’d have some pain associated with it. As of right now i have none in my neck etc but I’ll def see a specialist in hopes to catch whatever it may be before it requires the S word!
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I had the same issue and it’s a disc issue in your neck. The surgery sucks but if you put it off to long you will cause permanent damage
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Sent ya a PM. I am/was on phentermine and topomirate to lose weight. Had exact same symptoms. Had me really worried and I’m 45. Luckily I talked to a friend who was a Doctor. She told me to get off the topomirate..... solved my problems...
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Why?? I've seen them work some serious magic...
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Why?? I've seen them work some serious magic...
I have seen them cause stroke and death. That trumps serious magic.

Stroke risk is much higher in women, but men can still have vertebral artery dissection.
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I have seen them cause stroke and death. That trumps serious magic.

Stroke risk is much higher in women, but men can still have vertebral artery dissection.
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I take it you missed the part that states don't get adjustments if you have numbness or tingling in your extremities--both of which Fred states he has. It also references the risk of vertebral artery dissection.
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I take it you missed the part that states don't get adjustments if you have numbness or tingling in your extremities--both of which Fred states he has. It also references the risk of vertebral artery dissection.
No I saw that and that is why I posted it.. That is good to know.. I was thinking the OP might see it too.
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Also might go to chiropractor.
I thought they were quacks till very recently...my right arm was tingling 24/7 along with neck pain & mostly loss of sleep made me mental. MY FIL talked me into going to his & have no problem eating crow.

Like all docs, you gotta research but this would be my first path...took my FIL 3 to find one that could help.


Guess I should also mention it took tingling 3-4 weeks to go away after starting...3x week for 2 months, then 2x a week & now down to 1x a week currently.

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And just like that now Iím starting to get discomfort on the ride side of my neck (if you were looking from behind). Going to try and schedule something this week... the green is where the discomfort is and radiating just slightly about 6Ē straight down




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Old 04-01-2019, 07:07 AM   #49
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Back in December I was experiencing numbness in my right hand pinky and next finger. I went to the chiropractor on some advise that it might be a pinched nerve. I got adjusted several times and it just got worse, went to the other hand and up to both elbows. Then numbness and tingling in my legs and feet. The Chiropractor sent me for an MRI where they did see a bulging disc which wasn't really too bad. I went ahead and went to my Dr. and she sent me for a full MRI (1.5 hours in the tube). It turns out I have a mass in my spinal cord that they will be treating very shortly. I highly suggest you get an MRI to know exactly what you have and are not guessing. You nerves flow through you spine and your spine is nothing to play with, It runs the whole show.

My mass is Exactly where you show Green.
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Back in December I was experiencing numbness in my right hand pinky and next finger. I went to the chiropractor on some advise that it might be a pinched nerve. I got adjusted several times and it just got worse, went to the other hand and up to both elbows. Then numbness and tingling in my legs and feet. The Chiropractor sent me for an MRI where they did see a bulging disc which wasn't really too bad. I went ahead and went to my Dr. and she sent me for a full MRI (1.5 hours in the tube). It turns out I have a mass in my spinal cord that they will be treating very shortly. I highly suggest you get an MRI to know exactly what you have and are not guessing. You nerves flow through you spine and your spine is nothing to play with, It runs the whole show.

My mass is Exactly where you show Green.
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