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Old 10-11-2017, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default I'm confused about Youth Hunting License.

My new hunting buddy, with parents permission, is 12.
We're hunting depredating feral hogs with landowner consent.
According to Texas Outdoor Annual under the license section it says license not needed. At the bottom of the page it says note. All Hunter Education laws still apply.
So here's my dilemma.
He doesn't need a license.
Does he need Hunter Education to get a license.

Under Hunter Education requirements is say 9-16 must successfully complete OR be accompanied.

So I'm reading this as he CAN harvest pigs without a license or Hunters education...

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Old 10-11-2017, 09:48 PM   #2
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I would just pay the $6 or $7 for the youth license and not worry about it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:51 PM   #3
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I would just pay the $6 or $7 for the youth license and not worry about it.
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:54 PM   #4
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He does not need a hunters ed to get a license
Nor does he need a license to hunt hogs
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:58 PM   #5
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All the hunters ed is basically is for them to legally hunt on their own without your control. You don't need a license to hunt hogs if they are causing destruction to something
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Old 10-11-2017, 09:59 PM   #6
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Exactly what we do, buy the youth license.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:03 PM   #7
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All the hunters ed is basically is for them to legally hunt on their own without your control. You don't need a license to hunt hogs if they are causing destruction to something
This is what I understand as well, until youth gets the hunter ed they have to be with a licensed adult.

Also pigs are not game, so no need.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:04 PM   #8
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If hogs are causing damage on your property or you are the designated agent for the landowner you can kill them without a hunting license and leave them laying in the pasture. If you are hunting hogs on someone else's property or intend to use the meat, what are you doing could be interpreted as hunting.
Just buy a license, don't leave the situation open to interpenetration.

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Old 10-11-2017, 10:11 PM   #9
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Depredation and hunting are two very different things.

Acting on the land owners behalf to help them control hogs causing damage you need no license. If you put out corn, bait or anything to draw them in while you are depredating you are then hunting.

During depredation you also collect no meat, you leave them lay or haul them to a gut pile. You collect meat from the depredation you are then hunting.

Buy the license, its cheap insurance.
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[quote=Randy;12813210]Depredation and hunting are two very different things.

Acting on the land owners behalf to help them control hogs causing damage you need no license. If you put out corn, bait or anything to draw them in while you are depredating you are then hunting.

During depredation you also collect no meat, you leave them lay or haul them to a gut pile. You collect meat from the depredation you are then hunting.

Buy the license, its cheap insurance.[/quote

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Old 10-11-2017, 10:13 PM   #11
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Also pigs are not game, so no need.

This always makes me laugh.

Tell that to a game warden, bud.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:18 PM   #12
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$7 for a youth license, nothing to worry about. Best $7 ever.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:19 PM   #13
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Depredation and hunting are two very different things.

Acting on the land owners behalf to help them control hogs causing damage you need no license. If you put out corn, bait or anything to draw them in while you are depredating you are then hunting.

During depredation you also collect no meat, you leave them lay or haul them to a gut pile. You collect meat from the depredation you are then hunting.

Buy the license, its cheap insurance.
You are right on the money
I was confused as well apparently
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:39 AM   #15
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Def buy the kid a hunting license, its $7 and usually the kid gets a kick out of being there to sign for their very own hunting license
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:43 AM   #16
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I'd spend the $7 and be done with it. Last thing I'd want is to have to debate a game warden.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:47 AM   #17
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I'd spend the $7 and be done with it. Last thing I'd want is to have to debate a game warden.
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Plus, kids like getting a hunting license. ....makes them feel grown up.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:26 AM   #18
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Plus, kids like getting a hunting license. ....makes them feel grown up.
Exactly. I have a 7 and 10 year old. They love getting their licenses each year. For only $7 its just plain silly not to get them one.

Also, you should probably start thinking about getting your hunting buddy his hunter's ed just to be done with it. My oldest son did it last year at 9. He enjoyed the class and never has to worry about it again. I went with him but let him do everything by himself. He liked the responsibility and of course the subject matter was very interesting to him.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:27 AM   #19
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If hogs are causing damage on your property or you are the designated agent for the landowner you can kill them without a hunting license and leave them laying in the pasture. If you are hunting hogs on someone else's property or intend to use the meat, what are you doing could be interpreted as hunting.
Just buy a license, don't leave the situation open to interpenetration.
X2 this is the way I understand and have explained to people I invite over for pig killing.
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Old 10-12-2017, 08:28 AM   #20
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What feral hogs don't cause damage?
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:13 AM   #21
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It's been about 12 hours since we've had a game warden debate on here! Roll the dice and let us know how it goes!!!

Or pay $7 and be done with it! If he's never had a license before your going to need his SSN too I think.
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Old 10-12-2017, 09:48 AM   #22
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$7 to not have to screw with explaining anything to a warden or risk getting a ticket..........priceless...

There should be no confusion at that cost..



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Old 10-12-2017, 10:23 AM   #23
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If hogs are causing damage on your property or you are the designated agent for the landowner you can kill them without a hunting license and leave them laying in the pasture. If you are hunting hogs on someone else's property or intend to use the meat, what are you doing could be interpreted as hunting.
Just buy a license, don't leave the situation open to interpenetration.
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I would just go get a $7 license. Riley thinks it a pretty big deal as well!!
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:46 AM   #24
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Kids are prone to changing their mind about things. Sure, you may be on a depredation hunt and intend on letting them lay. But say Jr shoots his first one, wants to keep it or haul it to go show someone, and then all of a sudden it is hunting and not a control hunt, and he doesn't have his license for that.

Go buy the $7 license and cover your 6. Who knows, they might get a chance to hunt a deer or turkey as well and that way you are covered if that opportunity comes up. Depredation can become a grey area at times. For $7 you can steer totally clear of it. What if they get a chance at a coyote while you are out? Coyote, while not a game animal is a furbearing animal. Sure, he could be depredating too. You want to play to prove it game with a GW while you have a kid there that you are trying to introduce to hunting? Once again, steer clear of any potential issues and make any potential experience for them a good one.

Hunters ed is a separate issue. They aren't actually required to have it until 17 years old. But they do have to hunt with a licensed adult who has their Hunters Ed if they don't have it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 10:47 AM   #25
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As mentioned before, get the $7 license. My boys love getting theirs and is all part of the experience. He isn't required to have hunters ed but must remain with you while hunting if he doesn't have it.

Good on you for taking the time to get a kid out in the woods!
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Dad's plan has always been to get him his hunting license.
We're not/ weren't sure if the Hunter's Ed requirements.
Didn't want to get him all excited to go get his license only to be told no you don't have Hunters Ed.

I agree it's better safe than sorry.

This all came up in the last 10 days or so.

My kids are in their mid 20's we did Hunter's Ed before getting it licenses.
That was 13 years ago....

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Old 10-12-2017, 10:48 AM   #27
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Get the license so he get's in the habit of complying with game regs and when the hogs don't show he can legally shoot a few squirrels.
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:11 AM   #28
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Dad's plan has always been to get him his hunting license.
We're not/ weren't sure if the Hunter's Ed requirements.
Didn't want to get him all excited to go get his license only to be told no you don't have Hunters Ed.

I agree it's better safe than sorry.

This all came up in the last 10 days or so.

My kids are in their mid 20's we did Hunter's Ed before getting it licenses.
That was 13 years ago....
If you can get him thru hunter's ed, look into TYHP if you're not familiar with it. Awesome organization and really fun hunts/experiences for the kiddos. It's a hunt that his parent could go on also, even if no hunting experience. Might just need your help preparing for it.
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Dad's plan has always been to get him his hunting license.
We're not/ weren't sure if the Hunter's Ed requirements.
Didn't want to get him all excited to go get his license only to be told no you don't have Hunters Ed.

I agree it's better safe than sorry.

This all came up in the last 10 days or so.

My kids are in their mid 20's we did Hunter's Ed before getting it licenses.
That was 13 years ago....
Sounds like a good plan then. Maybe you can help get him his hunters ed next time it comes around, then he will be set for whatever comes his way later in life. Good on you for helping him out!
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This always makes me laugh.

Tell that to a game warden, bud.

I agree. Stupid answer to give someone.

To the OP. Just buy him the $7 license and watch the smile on his face. As far as needing hunters ed, as long as you are with him he doesn't need it.
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I would just pay the $6 or $7 for the youth license and not worry about it.
yup. You need a loan?
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Old 10-12-2017, 01:13 PM   #32
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Just buy a license, don't leave the situation open to interpenetration.
You want to avoid warden interpenetration..
Pay the $7.
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I thought this TBH not AT or 2Cool.....
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You want to avoid warden interpenetration..
Pay the $7.
Man, auto correct sure missed the mark on that one! lmao!
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Man, auto correct sure missed the mark on that one! lmao!
I was laughing at that, but wasn't going to say anything...
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You want to avoid warden interpenetration..
Pay the $7.
Definitely want to avoid warden penetration at all cost!!!
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If you can get him thru hunter's ed, look into TYHP if you're not familiar with it. Awesome organization and really fun hunts/experiences for the kiddos. It's a hunt that his parent could go on also, even if no hunting experience. Might just need your help preparing for it.
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All the hunters ed is basically is for them to legally hunt on their own without your control. You don't need a license to hunt hogs if they are causing destruction to something
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Meaning, they need to be in physical voice proximity to you otherwise.
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I'm scared to even look up definition of interpenetration....


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I thought this TBH not AT or 2Cool.....


I'm curious why you posted this? Did you not get the answer you're looking for? If you're still not sure, the kid does not need the hunters ed if he is with a licensed adult hunter.
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I'm curious why you posted this? Did you not get the answer you're looking for? If you're still not sure, the kid does not need the hunters ed if he is with a licensed adult hunter.
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I'm curious why you posted this? Did you not get the answer you're looking for? If you're still not sure, the kid does not need the hunters ed if he is with a licensed adult hunter.
must have been the interpenetration
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Man, auto correct sure missed the mark on that one! lmao!

Hahahahahah..

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This winter or sometime after hunting season, I'm going to pursue being a Hunters Ed Instructor.

Only reason for the delay is the first step if the process is to be interviewed by a Game Warden. I am guessing they're busy now...
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:42 PM   #48
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Plus, kids like getting a hunting license. ....makes them feel grown up.
Oh man that's no joke. When my oldest was maybe 9 or 10 he asked if he could bring his hunting license to school. I said sure and raised an eyebrow, he explained that some kids had been having an argument and didn't believe he had one. So he took it to school and I asked him about it later that day, he said he showed it in class and everybody was in awe, even the teacher. LOL... I guess he was the only kid in class with a hunting license?

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I thought this TBH not AT or 2Cool.....
Thin skinned much?
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