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Old 02-02-2018, 11:35 AM   #201
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Keep in mind folks, what's posted above is only a summary. There are supposed to be 4 major revelations that come from this and there are over a million pages involved.
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It is going to be interesting to see if enough people care. I am afraid we are a very divided country and the other half will shrug their shoulders.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:39 AM   #203
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The question is does the average American understand the implications or are they engaged enough to care? The left will believe this was a necessary evil for the greater good (they love that phrase), a means to an end. To the right this is the greatest injustice ever. Where will the majority of fence straddles fall? God knows the media isn’t going to give it to them straight.

Btw, this makes Watergate look like an elementary school infraction. Russia wasn’t meddling, the DNC/ Clinton machine was. If they point their fingers, you can assume they doing it.

I can only pray this is enough to dismantle the Clinton machine so much so that nobody with the surname or maiden name of Clinton will hold so much as a PTA office for a century or more!
You're right, the left will think it was the right thing to do, but that's because they are wrong as well. This is pretty black and white. The most powerful law enforcement agency on the planet that is tasked with keeping Americans safe from the most heinous crimes actively and deliberately assisted in violating the very foundation of our republic. That is wrong no matter what side you see things from.

Watergate pretty much was an elementary school infraction. F&F and the IRS scandal in recent years blow it out of the water. This nukes it.

I'm thinking Hillary is done. This is what will be remembered from the election. I'm also thinking this is going to go further back than the election and tarnish the previous admin too. This isn't over yet.
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:43 AM   #204
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Also, Flynn should be exonerated. What is his crime? Lying to an FBI agent (who we now know carried a personal vendetta against the Trump team) carrying out an illegal investigation?
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Unbelievable how corrupt the Democratic party is. Hopefully this is the nail in the coffin for the Clinton Crime Family.
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And how does this memo give up national security sources as warned by the Democrats??
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Unbelievable how corrupt the Democratic party is. Hopefully this is the nail in the coffin for the Clinton Crime Family.
And Comey, Mcabe and im sure several others
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And how does this memo give up national security sources as warned by the Democrats??
You beat me to it. What was so important here? Nothing that everyone didn't already know. There was nothing in regards to security or methods in there. Sheer desperation was the reason
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Also, Flynn should be exonerated. What is his crime? Lying to an FBI agent (who we now know carried a personal vendetta against the Trump team) carrying out an illegal investigation?

I'm sure his lawyer is making some calls.
He should sue a long list of people
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And Comey, Mcabe and im sure several others
Yep they are all members of the Clinton Crime Family
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This nails it. We knew that IRS and DOJ and now know that the FBI were used as political weapons during that guys reign. If someone really thinks he wasn't giving go aheads or AT LEAST knew, they are very naive.
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And Comey is/was an card carrying Repulsican!!
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Old 02-02-2018, 11:59 AM   #214
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This nails it. We knew that IRS and DOJ and now know that the FBI were used as political weapons during that guys reign. If someone really thinks he wasn't giving go aheads or AT LEAST knew, they are very naive.
You mean he didn't first hear about it on the news? Ya don't say
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And Comey is/was an card carrying Repulsican!!
By card only. He's actually a liar, traitor and a Commie.
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You mean he didn't first hear about it on the news? Ya don't say
No but we know what he meant... he meant I heard about it in the memo we wrote for the news so they would report it exactly as we wanted it
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You mean he didn't first hear about it on the news? Ya don't say
"Uh... this is the first i'm hearing about it. Uh..... I'm shocked. Uh..... i will say this is the fault of the American people. uh..... had they been capable of making better choices, the brave men and women at the FBI would have never attempted to rig and election and have a sitting President removed. Uh.... Now clap because i'm a cool guy that throws myself into pop culture and I look like a low rate Mickey Mouse."

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And how does this memo give up national security sources as warned by the Democrats??
And how does the rule "Fruit of the poisonous tree" NOT apply to this bogus Russia, Russia, Russia investigation?
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And how does the rule "Fruit of the poisonous tree" NOT apply to this bogus Russia, Russia, Russia investigation?
ThAt applies to the admissibility of evidence at trial. Doesn’t have much bearing now that investigation has started
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What I can’t figure out is the Dems had to know this was going to come out once Trump won. It was only a matter of time before he started installing his people and there was no way the infrastructure of all of this would be packed away/concealed before it could.

And yet there have been no mysterious suicides in the last year
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MSMBC says that this memo is a dud as far a the Mueller probe goes

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What I can’t figure out is the Dems had to know this was going to come out once Trump won. It was only a matter of time before he started installing his people and there was no way the infrastructure of all of this would be packed away/concealed before it could.

And yet there have been no mysterious suicides in the last year
This is why they have been trying to discredit everything about this administration since it took office. They knew doomsday was approaching.
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What I can’t figure out is the Dems had to know this was going to come out once Trump won. It was only a matter of time before he started installing his people and there was no way the infrastructure of all of this would be packed away/concealed before it could.

And yet there have been no mysterious suicides in the last year

I believe that is the whole reason behind the Mueller probe. Foil hat time….the probe give them access to everything and the ability to make certain documents disappear. Seems that there is so much they can’t get rid of it fast enough.
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ThAt applies to the admissibility of evidence at trial. Doesn’t have much bearing now that investigation has started


In this case, it absolutely does have bearing. The fake dossier was the reason the FISA warrant was obtained. It was known later by the FBI to be faked, but they failed to inform the FISA court when they continued to use the warrant.
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What I can’t figure out is the Dems had to know this was going to come out once Trump won. It was only a matter of time before he started installing his people and there was no way the infrastructure of all of this would be packed away/concealed before it could.

And yet there have been no mysterious suicides in the last year
That's what Hillary meant after the Matt Lauer interview.

She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist **** will have us swinging from nooses! What the **** is wrong with you idiots ?”.
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ThAt applies to the admissibility of evidence at trial. Doesn’t have much bearing now that investigation has started
Then bring it to trial, then toss it all.
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I love TBH and all the live hunts and huge wealth of knowledge, the incredible acts of compassion and reapect for Vets, the classifieds, everything to do wirh hunting. But some of ya'lls politics are scary and hypocritical in glaring doses. I have no idea what's included in the memo and refuse to stir into the wild conspiracies or suggested punishments. My fault for reading through yet another political thread and probably shouldn't have even commented. Carry on...
Still sorry for reading?
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Then bring it to trial, then toss it all.
That is how it will get thrown out. If anyone thinks this is going to stop this investigation they are mistaken. This is a political issue
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Why the hell do we even have secret courts in this country. That is about as Orwellian as it gets. Hell the FISA judges could of known the same the whole time and were part of the conspiracy. We will never know since its a secret, gtfo.
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Why the hell do we even have secret courts in this country. That is about as Orwellian as it gets. Hell the FISA judges could of known the same the whole time and were part of the conspiracy. We will never know since its a secret, gtfo.
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In this case, it absolutely does have bearing. The fake dossier was the reason the FISA warrant was obtained. It was known later by the FBI to be faked, but they failed to inform the FISA court when they continued to use the warrant.
That is why a criminal case won’t stand but this will not stop the investigation.
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FISA and FISC go back to 1978.
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That is why a criminal case won’t stand but this will not stop the investigation.


If the “investigation” is based on illegally obtained warrants, or warrants BASED on information known to be faked, then the entire investigation is not valid. If this was a regular person instead of a potus, not only would the investigation be stopped, it would be immediately followed by lawsuits against the FBI and every person involved. This is a violation of civil rights.
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Why the hell do we even have secret courts in this country. That is about as Orwellian as it gets. Hell the FISA judges could of known the same the whole time and were part of the conspiracy. We will never know since its a secret, gtfo.
I'm thinking this could likely be true.

- Dossier leaked to yahoo.

- yahoo reporting it used as confirmation of truth by same people who leaked it.

- Judge issues warrant based on yahoo "verification".

Seems like a pretty weak standard.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nunes-m...-live-updates/

After reading this I have no idea what I just read. Anyone have a link to the cliffs notes?
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That is how it will get thrown out. If anyone thinks this is going to stop this investigation they are mistaken. This is a political issue
Frankly at this point, I want the investigation to continue and I hope that this report is not simply a move to distract. If illegal goings on happened within republican ranks, then I want them exposed too. At this point burn the whole house down!

I’ve resolved to NEVER vote for another incumbent, at least not in a primary. Platform and skill pale in comparison to exposure to the bull**** that is politics. But until we have term limits for ALL elected officials and their appointees, then I can’t vote for someone who has held office. And I’m taking this voting principal all the way to my school board level
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If the “investigation” is based on illegally obtained warrants, or warrants BASED on information known to be faked, then the entire investigation is not valid. If this was a regular person instead of a potus, not only would the investigation be stopped, it would be immediately followed by lawsuits against the FBI and every person involved. This is a violation of civil rights.
This is my understanding
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If the “investigation” is based on illegally obtained warrants, or warrants BASED on information known to be faked, then the entire investigation is not valid. If this was a regular person instead of a potus, not only would the investigation be stopped, it would be immediately followed by lawsuits against the FBI and every person involved. This is a violation of civil rights.
So even if process crimes occur along the way you think this will be closed? This case won’t be closed even if Trump fires mueller. It has to continue and go to court to suppress illegal evidence. Political issue
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This was a total let down.. Much to do about nothing.. All old news. Absolutely nothing ground breaking here..

So we learned that the Clintons are common criminals- Already knew that.

So we learned that the top brass in the FBI are corrupt- BEEN knowing that for a long time..

No one is going to jail- They are above the law..

This has been a total psyche job by the media, including FOX.. Hyped up for ratings!

Thank GOD Wonder Woman wasn't our next president.. We would be screwed far, far worse than we currently are..




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That's their smoking gun?

This was news months ago.
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After reading this I have no idea what I just read. Anyone have a link to the cliffs notes?


The FBI used a dossier written by a British “spy” paid for by the DNC to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on Trumps campaign staff.
The Brit leaked the fake dossier to the MSM.
The FBI knew this, and further used the MSM reports as evidence to the FISA court to keep the warrant, while knowing the MSM was being used by the same Brit.
The Brit got caught. The FBI continued to plot with him, including taking his advice on what to do.
Keep in mind, Many of these same high ranking FBI personnel allowed Clinton to walk away from using personal servers and letting top secret material get hacked, and decided to exonerate her before she was actually interviewed, and openly talked amongst themselves on how they could stop trump from being potus.
In any other country, that would be called a “coup attempt”.
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Well I screwed up and turned over to MSNBC just to see how they were spinning it. Their anchors and EVERY guest are saying this memo is a dud. HOW IN THE CRAP IS IT A DUD WHEN McCABE IS QUOTED AS SAYING THERE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A FISA WARRANT ISSUED WITHOUT THE DOSSIER??!!! Not to mention all the other FACTS that are in the memo...not opinions!! I hope all the snowflakes melt. We are all partisan and have our opinions but how can they keep a straight face when they're blabbing their crap!
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He will be along shortly, with something about Iran/contra, or watergate.
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He's probably sharing a bottle of Grape MD 20/20 with XBowhunter about now.. Dranking away the blues....
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He's trying to find out who the government official is that invented crack and meth.
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This was a total let down.. Much to do about nothing.. All old news. Absolutely nothing ground breaking here..

So we learned that the Clintons are common criminals- Already knew that.

So we learned that the top brass in the FBI are corrupt- BEEN knowing that for a long time..

No one is going to jail- They are above the law..

This has been a total psyche job by the media, including FOX.. Hyped up for ratings!

Thank GOD Wonder Woman wasn't our next president.. We would be screwed far, far worse than we currently are..




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So confirmation that our highest law enforcement agency was part of a coup to keep a candidate out of office, then tried and have him removed from office is a let down? This is the biggest political scandal in American history. Yes, there were suspicions and a lot of us knew this was going on. But this is is actual confirmation. This is a big deal.

This isn't over either. There is more to come.

Also, you are just cruel for posting that picture!
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So we basically have a coup to keep an outsider out of office. There is evidence that the Russian investigation is a contingency plant to remove him once he's in office. If they are so desperate to keep an outsider out, what is it that they are ACTUALLY hiding?
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