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Old 01-18-2018, 07:45 PM   #1
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GOP lawmakers demand that 'alarming' memo on FISA abuses be made ublic
By Catherine Herridge
Published January 18, 2018
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A four-page memo circulating in Congress that reveals alleged United States government surveillance abuses is being described by lawmakers as shocking,” “troubling” and “alarming,” with one congressman likening the details to KGB activity in Russia. Speaking with Fox News, the lawmakers said they could not yet discuss the contents of the memo they reviewed on Thursday after it was released to members by the House Intelligence Committee. But they say the memo should be immediately made public.
“It is so alarming the American people have to see this,” Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan said.

“It's troubling. It is shocking,” North Carolina Rep. Mark Meadows said. “Part of me wishes that I didn't read it because I don’t want to believe that those kinds of things could be happening in this country that I call home and love so much.”

Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz said he believed people could lose their jobs after the memo is released. “I believe the consequence of its release will be major changes in people currently working at the FBI and the Department of
Justice,” he said, referencing DOJ officials Rod Rosenstein and Bruce Ohr.

“You think about, ‘is this happening in America or is this the KGB?’ That's how alarming it is,” Pennsylvania Rep. Scott Perry said. The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday approved a motion by New York Rep. Pete King to release the memo on abuses of FISA, or the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, to all House members.

HEAD OF HOUSE INTELLIGENCE PANEL FINDS EVIDENCE OF ABUSE IN US GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE A source close to the matter said the memo details the Intelligence Committee’s oversight work for the FBI and Justice, including the controversy over unmasking and FISA surveillance.

The vote Thursday morning on releasing the memo to lawmakers was along party lines, with Democrats voting against making it available for all members.

The process for releasing it to the public involves a committee vote, a source said. If approved, it could be released as long as there are no objections from the White House within five days.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told Fox News in December that his investigators have already uncovered evidence of abuse in the U.S. government's surveillance practices.

“I believe there's evidence that abuses have occurred," Nunes said at the time. Nunes pointed to the leaked conversation of former national security adviser, Gen. Mike Flynn with the Russian ambassador. On Thursday, the Senate voted 65-34 to reauthorize a FISA provision that allows U.S. spy agencies to conduct surveillance on foreign targets abroad for six years. The bill, which already has been passed by the House, now heads to the White House,where President Donald Trump has said he will sign it into law.
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This might predate Obama but I'm certain his admin took it to a whole new level. The evidence is stacking up on the Obama admin. Along with killery.
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I want to know if Justice Roberts name is in that report....
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Old 01-18-2018, 08:20 PM   #4
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I want to know if Justice Roberts name is in that report....

Now that is interesting
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this is looking to be more and more damming for the dems ...
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Paging Mr. Assange, pick up the red courtesy phone.
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:28 PM   #7
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I’m thinking there may actually be some pretty heavy stuff here. Kind of strange timing that the dems would be pushing so hard for a government shutdown right now....


I hate to say it, but watch out for something big and unrelated to change the news cycle.


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I’m thinking there may actually be some pretty heavy stuff here. Kind of strange timing that the dems would be pushing so hard for a government shutdown right now....


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This seems to be pretty typical of the way they handle things lately
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:34 PM   #9
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“If that B#%^*{+ wins, we will all hang from a noose. Fix this now”

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Old 01-19-2018, 06:29 AM   #10
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I’m thinking there may actually be some pretty heavy stuff here. Kind of strange timing that the dems would be pushing so hard for a government shutdown right now....


I hate to say it, but watch out for something big and unrelated to change the news cycle.


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Thinking you may be right on the money.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:44 AM   #11
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They better release this memo, there better be plenty of prosecutions in 2018-19.
To many people in this gov. Have been trying to destroy this country from within for too long. We need a reckoning in a bad way. I don't care if Obama goes to prison, lynch, Bush......i don't care who get wrapped up in this. I just hope prison is in the future for as many as necessary.
If it is as bad as some are saying , this country is no better than the worst corrupt country on earth if ano one pays the consequences.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:55 AM   #12
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WHAT ????? Another mass conspiracy involving our wonderful government???

SAY IT AINT SO!!!!!


And people wonder why I'm so paranoid and that I believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy!!
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[QUOTE=ttaxidermy;13114071]WHAT ????? Another mass conspiracy involving our wonderful government???

SAY IT AINT SO!!!! I guess I'm right again...
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:17 AM   #14
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I'm betting this will be proof that FISA warrants were issued illegally with made up information and some people pretty high in the tower spear headed/authorized it. Maybe even jug ears himself. If so, I hope McCain goes down to for his part. Remember it was said that a Republican opponent was involved in obtaining the fake dossier. Bush?
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I'm betting this will be proof that FISA warrants were issued illegally with made up information and some people pretty high in the tower spear headed/authorized it. Maybe even jug ears himself. If so, I hope McCain goes down to for his part. Remember it was said that a Republican opponent was involved in obtaining the fake dossier. Bush?
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:36 AM   #16
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They better release this memo, there better be plenty of prosecutions in 2018-19.
To many people in this gov. Have been trying to destroy this country from within for too long. We need a reckoning in a bad way. I don't care if Obama goes to prison, lynch, Bush......i don't care who get wrapped up in this. I just hope prison is in the future for as many as necessary.
If it is as bad as some are saying , this country is no better than the worst corrupt country on earth if ano one pays the consequences.
While I agree with you, there are many here who would call this kind of release of information treasonous. If you don't believe me...remember Snowden?: http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...hlight=snowden
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May be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Sounds real bad...............
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They better release this memo, there better be plenty of prosecutions in 2018-19.
To many people in this gov. Have been trying to destroy this country from within for too long. We need a reckoning in a bad way. I don't care if Obama goes to prison, lynch, Bush......i don't care who get wrapped up in this. I just hope prison is in the future for as many as necessary.
If it is as bad as some are saying , this country is no better than the worst corrupt country on earth if ano one pays the consequences.
The problem is that none of these people are ever punished for anything....
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Are there any Dem's that are up in arms over this like the Republicans are? I would think not.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:52 AM   #20
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Are there any Dem's that are up in arms over this like the Republicans are? I would think not.
No they voted unanimously to keep it from being released.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:54 AM   #21
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While I agree with you, there are many here who would call this kind of release of information treasonous. If you don't believe me...remember Snowden?: http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...hlight=snowden
I thought Snowden should have been hanged in the beginning as well but realized he was probably more patriot than anything else in the end.
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This wasn't built for nothing.

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Yep, if any shred of truth to this get after it. Be a patriot and turn it over to the press........NOT, to many piebacks in Congress to do what is right for the citizens of this country........lol!
Could the Patriot Act been the catalyst to all of this? If so, WE got just what we asked for.......SAFETY!!!
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Bingo!!!!
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Coincidentally, there is a press release today at noon on the Vegas shooting /cover up.

This could easily be something that will change the headlines for a while.

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Coincidentally, there is a press release today at noon on the Vegas shooting /cover up.

This could easily be something that will change the headlines for a while.

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Interesting. Since The FBI is likely deep in this poo, It would make sense for them to go ahead and release quite a bit on the Vegas shooting.
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Does this REALLY surprise anyone?

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Does this REALLY surprise anyone?

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Sadly, no.

And, it won't surprise me when it's swept under the rug and there aren't any legal actions taken. Par for the course these days.

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Sadly, no.

And, it won't surprise me when it's swept under the rug and there aren't any legal actions taken. Par for the course these days.

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Sad but true.
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There's room for Eric Holder in that center slot... I'm jus' sayin'...
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I thought Snowden should have been hanged in the beginning as well but realized he was probably more patriot than anything else in the end.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

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Funny how this wasn’t even mentioned in the news anywhere today. Fox was reporting on it last night, then this morning when I checked their website, the story wasn’t even on there. Seems like the whole thing was already swept under the rug
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Yep, if any shred of truth to this get after it. Be a patriot and turn it over to the press........NOT, to many piebacks in Congress to do what is right for the citizens of this country........lol!
Could the Patriot Act been the catalyst to all of this? If so, WE got just what we asked for.......SAFETY!!!
I've always thought the Patriot Act flies right in the face of the Fourth Amendment!
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"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

-Mark Twain
Now that is just STRONG!!!!

I have always thought Twain was quite the "observer of men!"
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Funny how this wasn’t even mentioned in the news anywhere today. Fox was reporting on it last night, then this morning when I checked their website, the story wasn’t even on there. Seems like the whole thing was already swept under the rug
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I've always thought the Patriot Act flies right in the face of the Fourth Amendment!
Yes, yes it does! Also flies in the face of everything we as Americans stand for as a FREE nation. We have foundational issues waaaaaay bigger than we are willing to truly admit to ourselves due to silo mentality.
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Now that is just STRONG!!!!

I have always thought Twain was quite the "observer of men!"
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..........or it was inaccurate?

Yes, yes it does! Also flies in the face of everything we as Americans stand for as a FREE nation. We have foundational issues waaaaaay bigger than we are willing to truly admit to ourselves due to silo mentality.
Silo mentality? Is that caused by tribalism?
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Silo mentality? Is that caused by tribalism?
Dunno the context of that term.........but silo mentality is more like having your head stuck up your backside!
This whole "my way or the highway" thought process is getting old from all these political hacks.........on both sides of the ailse.
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No different than fast & furious or the vegas shooting...the other untouchables will get theirs when they meet their maker.

Sad justice cannot be vindicated to us who put those in the very position to avoid it.
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Dunno the context of that term.........but silo mentality is more like having your head stuck up your backside!
This whole "my way or the highway" thought process is getting old from all these political hacks.........on both sides of the ailse.
Yeah, well.....I typed and erased. My bubble must lean the other way a bit.

Edit to say: "My way or the highway"........Really?

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Yeah, well.....I typed and erased. My bubble must lean the other way a bit.

Edit to say: "My way or the highway"........Really?
No idea what "bubble" you are referring to?

Oh, what's confusing about a 50 year old phrase?

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If the vote to release was split along party lines and the D's want it kept quiet, I want the info made public. Probably why the D's shut govt down.

Can't Ryan just release the information?
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It will leak some way or another.

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Well, this is certainly interesting.




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https://pjmedia.com/trending/page-st...-day-election/

This just keeps.getting worse
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They had no idea Trump would win so this type of corruption would never be found out. I seriously believe a lot of people need to literally hang in the near future.
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The tree of liberty must be.......
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