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Old 06-25-2014, 10:50 AM   #1
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With all of the interest I have noticed in blood tracking dogs recently, I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread dedicated to folks interested in training pups/dogs to trail wounded game. This would also include seasoned tracking teams that are already working.

My hope is that we could all share our ideas, techniques, experiences, & progress reports; as well as recoveries.

And if you have any questions, by all means post them up!

I know there are quite a few veteran trackers/trainers on TBH whose knowledge would be invaluable in helping those who are just starting out. I am hoping they will chime in and perhaps share some of their insight and experiences with us. Their input would be greatly appreciated.

With the collective knowledge of the TBH crew along with comparing our field notes, we should be able to help each other become better tracking teams.



Maybe we could start the thread out by everyone posting photos of their tracking dog in training, as well as tracking teams with veteran dogs.


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Old 06-25-2014, 11:03 AM   #2
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:08 AM   #3
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My biscuit hounds.
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Here's my hound, trained him since a pup, he will water retrieve, point as well as track, and run coons all night, His natural instincts made him easy to train. Great dog and I treat him like a member of my family, Thanks, Keith
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Old 06-25-2014, 11:16 AM   #5
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My biscuit hounds.[/quote]

Nice hounds steve, i bet they run hard,

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20 oz. bottles filled with 16 oz. of blood. I ran about 17 mock trails out of the first bottle......
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My catahoula ran her first two trails yesterday. Very short with a treat at the end. She did great on first one and so-so on the second one.

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Hope to see lots of pics and training/tracking stories..
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:18 PM   #9
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:22 PM   #10
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My catahoula ran her first two trails yesterday.

Very short with a treat at the end.

She did great on first one and so-so on the second one.


All Right Daisy!

No worries, she will get the hang of it in no time Bobby.

I went back and looked at the pics when you first got her, and that pup has really grown. And her face looks a lot different.

She really is a great looking pup. Congrats!
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Old 06-25-2014, 12:29 PM   #13
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In. Dont have my dog yet but its coming.
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Short video of her second track. She got off the blood but found the treat pretty quick. My daughter was filming and commenting (my voice isn't that high =)) The treat was behind the oak tree.

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"Camo" my catahoula

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Old 06-25-2014, 12:57 PM   #18
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Awesome Idea for a thread man, shoulda thought of this before. Here is kimber she is 7 months. Started her out at 8 weeks.



Have had her on 1 pig that I shot and she found it easily.

My training now almost exclusively consist of hide drags dipped in blood. I like it because after a bit the blood is gone and she is just working off sent. I train about 1 time a week at this point.
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Tuned in. Just waiting on my pup to come home. One of the blue just not sure which one. I can't wait to start training.
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Awesome Idea for a thread man, shoulda thought of this before. Here is kimber she is 7 months. Started her out at 8 weeks.



Have had her on 1 pig that I shot and she found it easily.

My training now almost exclusively consist of hide drags dipped in blood. I like it because after a bit the blood is gone and she is just working off sent. I train about 1 time a week at this point.
Kimber is a great name, nice dog
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Great idea!!!! Here's Bullet my "Crack Russell Terrier"
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Say tuco did you get that blood from a meat market or something?
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Great idea!!!!
Thanks Fellas,

I hope both veteran trackers and folks new to working blood dogs will take a little time out to post up any ideas, tips, or advice they might have.

We will all benefit from each others input.
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Old 06-25-2014, 02:14 PM   #25
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Thanks Fellas,



I hope both veteran trackers and folks new to working blood dogs will take a little time out to post up any ideas, tips, or advice they might have.



We will all benefit from each others input.

Could not agree more. I think many will benefit greatly from this thread. Can't wait til season rolls around to see all the success stories! Look forward to learning from the pro's!
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Say tuco did you get that blood from a meat market or something?
It came from a processing plant/slaughter house.

I will go back and find the post on how I processed the blood, and post it up for you.
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I cannot start my pup until I get home from this overseas tour. However, Domino will be all business I am sure
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Anybody around Houston area have a piece of deer hide I can steal from ya? =)
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[QU OTE=TUCO;8741851]It came from a processing plant/slaughter house.



I will go back and find the post on how I processed the blood, and post it up for you.[/QUOTE]


Perfect. Thank you
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Anybody around Houston area have a piece of deer hide I can steal from ya? =)

If you ever travel 290 toward Elgin or Austin holler at me. I have a cape from a year ago full that I cut pieces from as I need it.
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This is Red he turned 9 weeks Tuesday hoping to make a great tracker out of him. Just waiting to receive a deer ear in the mail. Thanks tuco! Red is NALC and has one glass eye and a green one. He's a thousand miles a minute and is putting on good weight. We feed him purina pro plan, which contains 28% protein. Hope u all enjoy great thread tuco!
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This is Jesse. She's about 16 weeks.

Picking up some blood and hide from keep this weekend.

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It came from a processing plant/slaughter house.

I will go back and find the post on how I processed the blood, and post it up for you.

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"Call up one of your local locker plants and ask then what their schedule is.

(They usually start killing early in the morning, and ranchers usually bring their stock in early.)

Then show up with a couple of five gallon buckets (w/ lids) just before they start killing. Tell them you want fresh blood from today’s kills, not blood that has been sitting in a bucket for several days intended to be used for catfish bait. You want beef blood, not hog.

The blood will start congealing immediately; so the sooner you get the blood the better. If you come back hours later, or at the end of the day to pick the blood up, you will have a big bucket of blood jello.

Bring a cordless drill and a paint mixer attachment. As soon as you get the blood, blend it thoroughly until it becomes all liquid again. This will prevent the blood from coagulating a second time.

When you get the blood home blend it again, then strain it through a large colander into another bucket, throwing away all the strained material.

You will need to rinse the colander off frequently because it gets clogged up. A big metal mesh pasta colander that is made to put over a kitchen sink works well for this. You can get one at Wal-Mart.

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Pick up a case or two of cheap bottled water to use for containers. Get a small funnel and fill each bottle about three quarters full, then put in the freezer with the tops off. Then replace tops after frozen."
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I started my little gut on a few small trails so far. I blended up beef livers with water. Put it in a water bottle with a small hole in the lid, and drip drip drip. HE did pretty good so far.
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Cool thread tuco great idea !!
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"Call up one of your local locker plants and ask then what their schedule is.



(They usually start killing early in the morning, and ranchers usually bring their stock in early.)



Then show up with a couple of five gallon buckets (w/ lids) just before they start killing. Tell them you want fresh blood from today’s kills, not blood that has been sitting in a bucket for several days intended to be used for catfish bait. You want beef blood, not hog.



The blood will start congealing immediately; so the sooner you get the blood the better. If you come back hours later, or at the end of the day to pick the blood up, you will have a big bucket of blood jello.



Bring a cordless drill and a paint mixer attachment. As soon as you get the blood, blend it thoroughly until it becomes all liquid again. This will prevent the blood from coagulating a second time.



When you get the blood home blend it again, then strain it through a large colander into another bucket, throwing away all the strained material.



You will need to rinse the colander off frequently because it gets clogged up. A big metal mesh pasta colander that is made to put over a kitchen sink works well for this. You can get one at Wal-Mart.



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Pick up a case or two of cheap bottled water to use for containers. Get a small funnel and fill each bottle about three quarters full, then put in the freezer with the tops off. Then replace tops after frozen."



Thank you much tuco. You da man
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Tuco in your experiences will it hurt my dog to take her on a wounded hog? I know you mentioned to get beef blood I was just wondering of I have messed up letting her practice on hogs?
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I have a Beagle that is a year and a half. I have worked her on a number of artificial lines. Unfortunately, no actual animals yet. My artificial lines are aged about 6 hours and she does not have much trouble with them. So, I have some questions for the folks that have been training a while.

How much space do you normally put between each drip of blood? Do you base it on your dog's performance? if so, what is reasonable goal for spacing for your dog to achieve?

Do you use deer scent on the line (ie Hide tied to your feet as you walk) or just leave a piece of deer hide at the end of the line?

Thanks in advance.
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Thanks Chew. You are gonna love your catahoula. They are something else
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Great thread. I've been trying some scent trails (no blood yet) and can't get my houla to focus. I swear it's like she has ADD. It's been a bear just trying to train her simple commands. She does fine when you have treats in hand, after that she won't even flinch when you call her name. Especially when she sees the cows. First hunting type dog for me so it's been as much of a learning experience for me as it has her. She's got a heck of a nose, just trying to figure out how to harness it. Will be following this closely.

Also interested in the blood differences. Not sure I have time to get to a locker, but the beef liver idea sounds do-able.
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just a heads up on the beef liver thing. It is nasty as heck making it lol. I was gagging like crazy pouring it in a bottle.
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Anybody have any extra deer hide a feller could get?
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Where you located?
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Dang. If your even down my way just holler. In the meantime what I bought to begin was the kit that cabelas sells. It has a hide in it
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Dang. If your even down my way just holler. In the meantime what I bought to begin was the kit that cabelas sells. It has a hide in it
Thank you. Ill have to go look into that kit also.
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This is Sarge. Never trained, just took to it. He will trail at a faster pace than I can walk , so I keep him on a leash while trailing. And yes, he is spoiled rotten, but I love him.

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Tuco in your experiences will it hurt my dog to take her on a wounded hog?

I know you mentioned to get beef blood I was just wondering of I have messed up letting her practice on hogs?


I can’t speak from experience on that.

But I have seen Buff’s Dog Bagley track both deer & hogs, and she does not discriminate when it comes to a wounded animal.

She is relentless, and will hunt either one down with equal animosity.

He uses a lead rope when he puts her on a track.
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