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Old 05-16-2019, 09:09 AM   #601
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THAT is where I left the pistol!

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Old 05-16-2019, 09:28 AM   #602
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Since when did Connelly shoot Kennedy?
That's the twist! It's a paradox, wrapped in irony, and shrouded in an enigma!!! Coincidentally, Jimmy Hoffa was the gunsmith that modified the pistol to shoot 6.5mm bullets! Like the one found on Connelly's gurney!


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Old 05-16-2019, 09:30 AM   #603
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I would have thought it would have been pretty odd for somebody to take the time to install a floor safe, in concrete. And then leave valuables inside of it.

Seems even more odd, that a LEO would leave a service weapon and ammo behind. Or that they would store a service weapon in such a manner. Would be interested in whom the previous owners were, in most counties you can look it up on the appraisal districts website.

Thanks for the ride and closure OP!


My first thoughts exactly. This pistol wasnít there to keep it safe- it was there to hide it. Why would you put flooring over a safe? You donít want anyone to find it. Why would the lock be broke off it? You donít want anyone to open it. Why would you put a gun with speed loader and empty casings in a floor safe before doing the above? You donít want anyone to find it because it was used in a crime.
Whoever put the gun in that safe also covered it in flooring- no one in their right mind would cover a safe with flooring unless they knew what was in it or someone told them there was nothin in it which goes back to someone hiding it.

This is just the beginning of the safe mystery...


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Old 05-16-2019, 09:32 AM   #604
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I think it was a cool find. Thanks to the OP for posting. It made my miserable life bearable for a while longer.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:35 AM   #605
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This is just the beginning of the safe mystery ...
Agreed. Thread canít die until thatís solved
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:00 AM   #606
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My first thoughts exactly. This pistol wasnít there to keep it safe- it was there to hide it. Why would you put flooring over a safe? You donít want anyone to find it. Why would the lock be broke off it? You donít want anyone to open it. Why would you put a gun with speed loader and empty casings in a floor safe before doing the above? You donít want anyone to find it because it was used in a crime.
Whoever put the gun in that safe also covered it in flooring- no one in their right mind would cover a safe with flooring unless they knew what was in it or someone told them there was nothin in it which goes back to someone hiding it.

This is just the beginning of the safe mystery...
You have got to be kidding me ...

The find was very cool. Thanks OP for keeping up with this.

I probably wouldn't have after some of the jack wagon comments that have been made. I would have sent a PM to Burnadell to get off his bad side though.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:01 AM   #607
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Instead of concreting it back in, put the lid back on and float it with clear epoxy and leave it exposed as a conversation piece.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:06 AM   #608
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Wow...I will never get the last 1 1/2 hours back.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:10 AM   #609
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The tin foil hats are out in force on this one! Thanks OP for following through and keeping us posted.

I would say the most likely reason it was covered would be an elderly family member passed away, nobody had the combination and the family just covered it up to get the house sold.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:18 AM   #610
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Instead of concreting it back in, put the lid back on and float it with clear epoxy and leave it exposed as a conversation piece.
That's a really cool idea.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:27 AM   #611
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He is now rich and doesn't want anybody to know.
Too many smoochers on this thread!!!
Moochers. There may be too many smoothers, too, but thatís an altogether different issue.
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:35 AM   #612
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Probably would be best to report it to the authorities so the could test it and. Research it

Would be a great place to hide a gun in a crime
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:39 AM   #613
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My first thoughts exactly. This pistol wasnít there to keep it safe- it was there to hide it. Why would you put flooring over a safe? You donít want anyone to find it. Why would the lock be broke off it? You donít want anyone to open it. Why would you put a gun with speed loader and empty casings in a floor safe before doing the above? You donít want anyone to find it because it was used in a crime.
Whoever put the gun in that safe also covered it in flooring- no one in their right mind would cover a safe with flooring unless they knew what was in it or someone told them there was nothin in it which goes back to someone hiding it.

This is just the beginning of the safe mystery...


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Or, it could be that the house was sold and a new owner had carpet installed, and the carpet installer simply forgot to cut an access flap in the carpet. I once worked for a builder that installed floor safes, just like the one here, in every house. We covered them with carpet and just cut a little access flap in the carpet. The idea was to hide the safe as much as was practical. It could be a big conspiracy. Or, it could be that a previous owner didn't have the safe combination and just carpeted over it. Or, it could be innocent negligence. Or...
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Old 05-16-2019, 10:52 AM   #614
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Havenít found any bones yet have you 😳🤔
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Old 05-16-2019, 11:08 AM   #615
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I doubt it's a murder weapon. There are a hundred different ways to dispose of a pistol used in crime rather than leave it in your house in relatively good condition. Turn it over to the authorities? That sounds like what people in New York and California do. I would find a discreet LEO and have them run the serial.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:45 PM   #616
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Local gun shop called S&W. They said it was manufactured in 1977 and was a Model 14 or 15. That’s all the info they had.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:46 PM   #617
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Local gun shop called S&W. They said it was manufactured in 1977 and was a Model 14 or 15. Thatís all the info they had.
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:53 PM   #618
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That gun is a cool find! I'd clean it up and if you don't feel competent at evaluating its safety/integrity, I'd take it to a gunsmith and have them check it out for you, then if it is good to go, get out and shoot that sucker and enjoy it!
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:12 PM   #619
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That gun is a cool find! I'd clean it up and if you don't feel competent at evaluating its safety/integrity, I'd take it to a gunsmith and have them check it out for you, then if it is good to go, get out and shoot that sucker and enjoy it!
Local gun shop said they have seen guns in pretty bad shape before but had never seen one with this much pitting. They can clean it up but it will have pretty good scaring.
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Old 05-16-2019, 03:15 PM   #620
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Very cool! I agree with others it might have belonged to LE at one time.
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Old 05-16-2019, 04:00 PM   #621
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That is what I was thinking. I plan to see who, if anyone, that lived here prior was LE at some point.


I would be pulling tax history down at the court house in an instant!!


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Old 05-16-2019, 04:36 PM   #622
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OP, so exactly how did you get it open? I see the pic but give us the play-by-play.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:24 PM   #623
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There have been 4 owners of the home including us. None of which were LE that I can find.

What I thought was the top plate turned out to be the actual safe. I was cutting a slit to try and find the bolts when I cut a hole through the top plat. After confirming that it was the actual safe I used a zaw saw to cut through the 1/4 inch box. Took more time trying to figure out what I was dealing with and experimenting than actually cutting it open. Definitely wasn't worth the $500 the locksmith wanted.
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Old 05-16-2019, 05:32 PM   #624
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There have been 4 owners of the home including us. None of which were LE that I can find.

What I thought was the top plate turned out to be the actual safe. I was cutting a slit to try and find the bolts when I cut a hole through the top plat. After confirming that it was the actual safe I used a zaw saw to cut through the 1/4 inch box. Took more time trying to figure out what I was dealing with and experimenting than actually cutting it open. Definitely wasn't worth the $500 the locksmith wanted.
I need a beater smith for some experimentation if you want to recoup some funds
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Old 05-16-2019, 06:12 PM   #625
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Seems you have the S&W model 15. 14 has a vertical sight and 15 has a ramp. The most obvious difference is the barrel length - 14=6" and 15=4"

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Old 05-16-2019, 07:12 PM   #626
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Instead of concreting it back in, put the lid back on and float it with clear epoxy and leave it exposed as a conversation piece.
This!!!
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Old 05-16-2019, 07:43 PM   #627
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A lock smith or you can find someone in Oak Cliff that can pick it
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:13 PM   #628
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Iím in for the reveal
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:20 PM   #629
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I'd say you're probably late...
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:40 PM   #630
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Congrats on getting it open.
Curious....is there a box missing from the After Pic?

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Old 05-16-2019, 09:15 PM   #631
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Yeah, hopefully we find something out soon.

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Old 05-16-2019, 09:32 PM   #632
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Congrats on getting it open.
Curious....is there a box missing from the After Pic?

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Good eye. Thatís where the gold was hidden.


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Old 05-16-2019, 10:24 PM   #633
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It was definitely used in a crime probably a murder and put somewhere to never be found. They are definitely going to come after you when they find out you found their stash. Watch out who you tell you can trust everyone on here with your secret.
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