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Old 06-12-2018, 12:34 AM   #1
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Default Remington 870 TAC 14

Who has one? I cant wait to get me one!

They are legal! What are your thoughts on them?

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Old 06-12-2018, 03:09 AM   #2
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In my honest opinion pistol grip shotguns are junk. Anything you can't aim is pretty useless. They look cool....That's pretty much it.

I don't own one by the way. Just going by experiences shooting pistol grip shotguns other people had. They're pretty much all the same.

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Old 06-12-2018, 05:10 AM   #3
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Looking at one for a house gun, but have not shot one. I’m looking at the Mossberge one.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:06 AM   #4
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CC Plus here in Conroe had a couple last week.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:34 AM   #5
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there was one with a brace stock in the classifieds. Id like one for work if it was allowed
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Old 06-12-2018, 07:02 AM   #6
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This is NOT a pistol grip shotgun. If you make this one, is becomes a SBS. Stamp needed.
Overall length has it fall within the minimum size for a shotgun according to ATF.
Take the gun for what it is. Your not doing any sniping with it.
The 20ga model I would think be easier to handle.
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Old 06-12-2018, 08:20 AM   #7
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In my honest opinion pistol grip shotguns are junk. Anything you can't aim is pretty useless. They look cool....That's pretty much it.

I don't own one by the way. Just going by experiences shooting pistol grip shotguns other people had. They're pretty much all the same.
These are for point blank / or close quarters, no need to aim.

Think of it from the receiving end, you want to be in a typical residential hall and have someone walk into the other end and shoot at you with one of these or a pistol?
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:08 AM   #8
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Pretty much a novelty, but a lot of guns are. Guns are fun. If you want one, buy one.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:12 AM   #9
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I've got a 20ga and a 12ga. Going to put the wrist brace on the 12ga, it was too much recoil for. I can shoot the 20ga a lot better.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:55 AM   #10
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Default Handled the Mossberg Shockwave

A friend brought over his newly purchased Mossberg Shockwave (14 inch barreled 12g) last night. Handles nice, but I haven't shot it yet. I would prefer the 20g version.

I have fired several pistol grip shotguns and several shotguns cut down to 18 inch barrels. All of those wind up banging back into the middle finger that is wrapped around the grip behind the trigger guard (same experience for my son). Sometimes it has resulted in actually bruising that finger from just a few shots.

The only advantage to the shockwave or tac-14 that I can see, is that these are not true pistol grip shotguns (as they would be a SBS and require a stamp). The possible shooting advantage, is that hopefully shooters will not get their other fingers bruised and banged up with the rear grip being in-line with the receiver, much like the shape and design of a buttstock on a standard shotgun.

Do I have a need for something like this? I have some guns that I have purchased as a "need", and several as a want, or fun purchase. I see one of these shotguns as the latter.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:28 AM   #11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxECBq-f68s&t=776s

This old timer is pretty accurate with a shockwave. I got a marine grade one, to leave in the truck. Ran a box of shells through it and was surprised on how pretty accurate it was shooting from the hip. Even got a jackrabbit from the drivers seat at about 25 yards. Would like to run some of the shorty shells through it. I expect to be able to sell it for what I paid for it down the road if I decide to go that route.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:43 PM   #12
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These are for point blank / or close quarters, no need to aim.

Think of it from the receiving end, you want to be in a typical residential hall and have someone walk into the other end and shoot at you with one of these or a pistol?
Neither. For me shooting back I'd rather have a shotgun but it seems like shooting from the hip I tend to "short stroke" the action sometimes. Even with shotguns with a stock on them and rapid firing from the hip. I'd like to see one of these in a semi automatic. I can see where maybe a pistol would be my choice over the Shockwave or Remington Tac14. Just for the simple fact I could shoot fast and not have to worry as much about hitting walls instead of the target or getting the gun jammed. Useless might not have been the correct term to use. It's less than comfortable for me personally to shoot a pistol grip shotgun or even an AR pistol. But in a self defense type scenario any gun is better than no gun.
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Old 06-12-2018, 02:47 PM   #13
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I have carried and shot just about every kind of law enforcement/defense shotgun made. Carried a pistol grip/12 in bbled 870 for years. I personally find that the regular butt stock is a much better option with the short barrels. The last years I worked I carried an FBI 870, 12 1/2 bbl and full butt stock. Very carryable and accurate.
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Old 06-12-2018, 03:02 PM   #14
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Who has one? I cant wait to get me one!

They are legal! What are your thoughts on them?

I'm guessing your last name is Foxtrot. Was this thread too stale for you to feel like posting in?

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Old 06-12-2018, 03:18 PM   #15
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Pretty much a novelty, but a lot of guns are. Guns are fun. If you want one, buy one.
You can always put it on a swivel-ball mount on your box blind and use it like a boarding cannon for hunting in South TX.

hboy35 is right, the trigger guard on the 12ga is pretty hard on the middle finger. What about having the barrel ported?

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Old 06-12-2018, 03:24 PM   #16
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You'll end up in one of those videos getting wacked in the head with it!
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:37 PM   #17
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calf leg,better hold on tight when it gets a loose
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:11 AM   #18
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I'm guessing your last name is Foxtrot. Was this thread too stale for you to feel like posting in?

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...ght=870+tac+14
Nope dont really care to search for something especially since I'm not asking for a fu*king comparison like the thread you tagged. Now, if you have nothing to say move on dipsh*t. Just rather start my own thread about the specific one that i am interested in.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:11 AM   #19
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You'll end up in one of those videos getting wacked in the head with it!
Hahaha no sir. I'll be sure to have a grip on it

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Old 06-13-2018, 01:19 AM   #20
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This old timer is pretty accurate with a shockwave. I got a marine grade one, to leave in the truck. Ran a box of shells through it and was surprised on how pretty accurate it was shooting from the hip. Even got a jackrabbit from the drivers seat at about 25 yards. Would like to run some of the shorty shells through it. I expect to be able to sell it for what I paid for it down the road if I decide to go that route.
Doesnt seem like they would be a pain in the ***. Definitely would take the 20ga though. Carry it around as a snake/rabbit/ etc killer at the lease

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In my honest opinion pistol grip shotguns are junk. Anything you can't aim is pretty useless. They look cool....That's pretty much it.

I don't own one by the way. Just going by experiences shooting pistol grip shotguns other people had. They're pretty much all the same.
Don't need much aim with 8 shot. Lol.

Now with buck shot yeah might need to try a little

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Old 06-13-2018, 08:26 AM   #22
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Nope dont really care to search for something especially since I'm not asking for a fu*king comparison like the thread you tagged. Now, if you have nothing to say move on dipsh*t. Just rather start my own thread about the specific one that i am interested in.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:52 AM   #23
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This is definitely on the top of my list for a house/truck/backup weapon!!!

May go with 20 gauge after reading this thread, thank you all for the input.
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Old 06-13-2018, 09:35 AM   #24
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Nope dont really care to search for something especially since I'm not asking for a fu*king comparison like the thread you tagged. Now, if you have nothing to say move on dipsh*t. Just rather start my own thread about the specific one that i am interested in.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:13 PM   #25
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I got the Mossberg put a big dot laser on it and shot 12 ga. mini shells.

With the laser you can put the shots very close together.

It holds like 9 mini's

I qualified with it and can carry with me on patrol

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Old 06-16-2018, 08:56 AM   #26
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I haven't checked prices everywhere, but Sportsman's Outdoors has the Remington for $289 today only.

https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst...14-inch-barrel
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I got the Mossberg put a big dot laser on it and shot 12 ga. mini shells.

With the laser you can put the shots very close together.

It holds like 9 mini's

I qualified with it and can carry with me on patrol
Do you have more info on the mini's?
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Briley's will port the 14" barrel for $105, wonder how a bayonet would look on ir....
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Do you have more info on the mini's?
Dunno what hes using but I like these: https://www.targetsportsusa.com/agui...4-p-76585.aspx
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Dunno what hes using but I like these: https://www.targetsportsusa.com/agui...4-p-76585.aspx


Cool...thanks, Ill definitely have to get some of these.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:23 AM   #31
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From everything I've seen you have to have a plastic piece that's designed for the mini shells in order to put them in the magazine tube. I'd never heard of such a thing.

What I've noticed that struck me as odd are the amount of people that buy the Shockwave and put a brace or stock on it.....isn't the whole idea of this gun to have a short shotgun?

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Old 06-18-2018, 10:50 AM   #32
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What I've noticed that struck me as odd are the amount of people that buy the Shockwave and put a brace or stock on it.....isn't the whole idea of this gun to have a short shotgun?
I could be wrong but I think that's highly illegal.
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