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Old 08-05-2018, 05:05 PM   #51
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I know threads like this tend to stress some peeps out. So here is a little stress relief tidbit for you.

Stress management technique, recommended in all the latest psychological journals.


The funny thing is that it really does work and will make you smile:



1. Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out over a crystal clear stream.



2. Picture yourself with both your hands dangling in the cool running water.



3. Birds are sweetly singing in the cool mountain air.



4. No one knows your secret place.



5. You are in total seclusion from that hectic place called the World.



6. The soothing sound of a gentle waterfall fills the air with a cascade of serenity.



7. The water is so clear you can make out the face of the Democrat (insert name) you are holding underwater.



See, it worked. You feel better already.
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Old 08-05-2018, 07:43 PM   #52
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Every thing over There is hunkydory. The dictator will make great decisions for his country much like Hugo and Macuro have done just down the road. The SA dictator loves his country and all its citizens. Hell he not even calling for the murder of whites.....yet. The country will prosper just like all its neighbors.
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No.. Much worse.. It will be another Zim..
Then its another Chicago.
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Then its another Chicago.
oh no.. please no more of that ****....
worst band ev-er.....its like jethro tull with a side of enema juice...
STOP APARTHEI....wait...wrong movement?
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Then its another Chicago.
And how many people got shot in Chi-town this last weekend?

https://www.facebook.com/johan.j.gou...55862899043391

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/land...ats-cape-town/

Pretty funny that you have people actually denying that this is happening, right now, as it happens.
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Old 08-06-2018, 09:22 AM   #56
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And how many people got shot in Chi-town this last weekend?
63 people shot that past weekend in Chicago. BLM....no where to be found.
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Old 08-06-2018, 10:56 AM   #57
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63 people shot that past weekend in Chicago. BLM....no where to be found.
yea and the last I read was that 10 of those 63 died..
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That's a lot of people shot for some of the strictest firearms laws in the nation...
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:21 AM   #59
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That's a lot of people shot for some of the strictest firearms laws in the nation...
Yep and yet "they" still don't get it..
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yea and the last I read was that 10 of those 63 died..
CNN is planning a live town hall event over the mass shootings happening in Chicago so that we can have an honest discussion and come up with a reasonable solution to curtail the violence and senseless deaths.

Update: CNN will not be having a town hall.. Miller Time.
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Old 08-06-2018, 01:35 PM   #61
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And how many people got shot in Chi-town this last weekend?

https://www.facebook.com/johan.j.gou...55862899043391

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/land...ats-cape-town/

Pretty funny that you have people actually denying that this is happening, right now, as it happens.
I wanted go post that last night but figured........what the hell, some of these folks won't believe it until their outfitter is murdered.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:14 AM   #62
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You will be FINE! I would not hesitate for one second to make plans for an African safari... This rhetoric from the RSA government is nothing new. They have made these threats periodically over the last several decades to appease the radical component of the ANC.

It makes the news for a day like it did back in December after the election of the new President Ramaphosa, then you don’t hear about it again....

Ramaphosa is heavily invested in RSA in both properties and agriculture. None of the white South Africans feel he would do anything to jeopardize his own wealth. For them, its business as usual and they take these threats in political stride.

We were hearing about their government’s plans to confiscate white-owned property 13 years ago when we first started traveling to South Africa, and I assume you will hear these threats for years to come.... Bottom line is that 85% of RSA’s economy is generated by 15% of the population. You can probably guess what component of the population that 15% is.... As a potential client, I wouldn’t give it a second thought. This rhetoric hasn’t changed my plans in 13 years, and it won’t change my plans to return again next year. Any real serious land confiscation would require a constitutional amendment which would create a revolution to accomplish.... I already heard today that Ramaphosa is walking back his rhetoric now saying that if anything, they will only take land and buildings that have been inactive, vacant, or already confiscated for tax liens... This story is not "fake news" per se, but the theme is not new and it is being sensationalized.
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Old 08-09-2018, 09:22 AM   #63
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Yep and yet "they" still don't get it..
One of the victims in last weekends massacre was a 17year old Jahnae Patterson who was standing on the sidewalk when 2 guys walked up and blew her face off. No outrage. Not even a blip other than some local Chicago news outlets. Why...becouse it was black on black. Miller Time.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:31 PM   #64
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I believe any news agency can report on something based upon on bad info but Fox News isn't even in the same league as CNN and MSNBC trying to sell fake news intentionally.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:49 PM   #65
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Lots of Jews thought what Hitler was spewing out was just rhetoric until it was too late. I don’t know anything about the South African situation except what I’ve read in the news. Quite troubling if your white in that nation.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:24 PM   #66
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Lots of Jews thought what Hitler was spewing out was just rhetoric until it was too late. I don’t know anything about the South African situation except what I’ve read in the news. Quite troubling if your white in that nation.
Just search youtube. There are a few good doc's on there about the situation
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THE South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers.

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.




https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b
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THE South African government has begun the process of seizing land from white farmers.

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.




https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b
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Old 08-20-2018, 07:02 PM   #69
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So sick of the world oppressing them. Everyone should leave Africa and see how they do on their own.

I wish somewhere in the world people were taking land away from black people. I'd wager you would hear about it!
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Old 08-20-2018, 08:29 PM   #70
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What is happening in SA is truly sickening. Almost a sickening is the fact that the atrocities against farmers has and will largely go un/under-reported. I have seen some beautiful farms/concessions and those that are taken will be destroyed. SA will become a disaster and the Rand will likely look like the Zimbabwe dollar. The Rhino and lion will be treated no better than the the Afrikaners. Those proclaiming this to be fake news don't have any friends in South Africa. It is a disaster and will only get worse as the land grab continues and more people are killed.
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I thought the majority of this thread was saying nothing is happening there...?
So is it happening as reported or not?
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Old 08-20-2018, 09:06 PM   #72
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I thought the majority of this thread was saying nothing is happening there...?
So is it happening as reported or not?
Yes it is and will pick up speed in the coming months.
SA is lost even if some would have you believe it's hunkydory
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I thought the majority of this thread was saying nothing is happening there...?
So is it happening as reported or not?
Yeah that's what threw me for loop also??
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I thought the majority of this thread was saying nothing is happening there...?
So is it happening as reported or not?
Yea, I would have expected some better situational awareness from a bunch of bow hunters.

The reports claim that South Africa has targeted the first two farms for “unilateral seizure after the owners refused an offer of one-tenth of the land’s value”.

If these seizures go ahead, it will be the first time the SA government takes land without paying market value.

The farms are both game farms in the northern province of Limpopo. The owners – named in reports as Akkerland Boerdery – allegedly wanted R200-million but were being offered just R20-million.

Akkerland was allegedly served notice earlier this year that a terrain inspection would take place on 5 April 2018. They obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction taking place until a court had ruled on the issue… but apparently the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs has opposed their application.

These alleged seizures are apparently intended to test the government’s ability to take land under existing laws as the ANC forges ahead with land expropriation without compensation
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I thought the majority of this thread was saying nothing is happening there...?
So is it happening as reported or not?
Its usually the same types (Ostriches and LWLs) who are certain no one "wants to take your guns...."

If some don't think this can or still may happen in THIS country, they are not EVEN paying attention. The fact they still can't see what IS happening in SA is evident of that.

The left(Democrat Party) has been on this tract for years , and are openly and seriously waving the red flags of gun confiscation and property seizure (redistribution) in the form of "Democratic Socialism."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...oos-hard-left/

Do you think then candidate Barack Obama saying "we are 3 days away from fundamentally transforming America...", was just a cute campaign slogan?

Now we have a new trove of these Marxist @(#@$#^@*#$#@!!! getting in the game using similar "redistribution" BS rhetoric.

Only real difference HERE is, most of us are armed to the teeth... for now. But none of that will help so long as people (many here even) REFUSE to see what is taking place, right before their very eyes.

...and have the gall to snark and smugly accuse the rest of us as being Chicken Little, tin foil hat yada yada.
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Kind of ironic the self proclaimed Native American (Warren) is wanting a land grab. You can't make this junk up.
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Old 08-22-2018, 08:33 AM   #78
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Its usually the same types (Ostriches and LWLs) who are certain no one "wants to take your guns...."

If some don't think this can or still may happen in THIS country, they are not EVEN paying attention. The fact they still can't see what IS happening in SA is evident of that.

The left(Democrat Party) has been on this tract for years , and are openly and seriously waving the red flags of gun confiscation and property seizure (redistribution) in the form of "Democratic Socialism."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...oos-hard-left/

Do you think then candidate Barack Obama saying "we are 3 days away from fundamentally transforming America...", was just a cute campaign slogan?

Now we have a new trove of these Marxist @(#@$#^@*#$#@!!! getting in the game using similar "redistribution" BS rhetoric.

Only real difference HERE is, most of us are armed to the teeth... for now. But none of that will help so long as people (many here even) REFUSE to see what is taking place, right before their very eyes.

...and have the gall to snark and smugly accuse the rest of us as being Chicken Little, tin foil hat yada yada.
Bam!
I made another post but will put it here also. Tucker Carlson will cover this tonight on his show. Fox News at 7:00

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I’m in camp hunting now and have seen and/or heard nothing. And nobody is even talking about it. FRom the airport 3 1/2 drive north I have not seen or heard of any trouble here.
The only problem I’ve had is, I can’t post pics here, it says “missing security something, no problem texting, even can post on Facebook but not TBH
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Soooooo
What should we as the USA do about it?
Send in our troops?
Place sanctions on SA?
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Soooooo
What should we as the USA do about it?
Send in our troops?
Place sanctions on SA?
Maybe we should boycott SA by not going on hunts down there until this is reversed.
Or if we place sanctions then the usa govt won't allow us to go down and spend money there anyway.

But then DeBeers would have a huge problem on their hands
And just about every jewelry store in America.

But they did have those apartheid sanctions.....

Actions speak louder than words
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Maybe we should boycott SA by not going on hunts down there until this is reversed.
Or if we place sanctions then the usa govt won't allow us to go down and spend money there anyway.

But then DeBeers would have a huge problem on their hands
And just about every jewelry store in America.

But they did have those apartheid sanctions.....

Actions speak louder than words
Wouldn’t boycotting hunts mostly hurt the farmers?
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I just got off of the ship today from a 7 day cruise.. While on my trip I met a young, white man, probably 30, from SA.. He is from central SA which is the farming country.. He said his family had been farming that area for 150 years.. We talked hunting for a minute and when I brought up the land grab his entire demeanor changed.. He became really emotional and said he "absolutely DID NOT wish to talk about it"..... I said I understand and that was that... We continued to talk hunting...
His reaction told me all I need to know about what is happening to the white farmers.. It ain't good..
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Wait
Didn't this same thing happen when they created Israel?
Pakistahn too.
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Didn't this same thing happen when they created Israel?
Pakistahn too.
No..
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No..
Ehhhh
So what do you suggest we as Americans do?
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Its usually the same types (Ostriches and LWLs) who are certain no one "wants to take your guns...."

If some don't think this can or still may happen in THIS country, they are not EVEN paying attention. The fact they still can't see what IS happening in SA is evident of that.

The left(Democrat Party) has been on this tract for years , and are openly and seriously waving the red flags of gun confiscation and property seizure (redistribution) in the form of "Democratic Socialism."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...oos-hard-left/

Do you think then candidate Barack Obama saying "we are 3 days away from fundamentally transforming America...", was just a cute campaign slogan?

Now we have a new trove of these Marxist @(#@$#^@*#$#@!!! getting in the game using similar "redistribution" BS rhetoric.

Only real difference HERE is, most of us are armed to the teeth... for now. But none of that will help so long as people (many here even) REFUSE to see what is taking place, right before their very eyes.

...and have the gall to snark and smugly accuse the rest of us as being Chicken Little, tin foil hat yada yada.

So what would you instruct Trump that he should do about this?
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Ehhhh
So what do you suggest we as Americans do?
Sadly there is not much we can do.. We have our own issues to deal with..
It will be hard to watch.
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Just to put a different perspective on this issue, I booked a bow hunt next year in SA. I have spoke with two different outfitters and got the same answer "fake news". My PH called me last Wednesday and told me he will require no deposit on the hunt, because of my concerns. My friend Buff also told me not worry about it and go hunt. I will go hunt.

On a side note: President Trump kicked up a little dust last week when he watched Tucker Carlson on Fox talk about this. The PM of Australia also threw a few rocks as well. I think the SA socialist government will do a little back tracking. Of course I could be wrong.
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Sadly there is not much we can do.. We have our own issues to deal with..
It will be hard to watch.
"Sadly"?
Let each man fight his own battle
Just like we tell those refugees to go back to Syria and stand up to Asaad and fight for their country
We should tell these farmers they need to fight for their farms
ON THEIR OWN
No need to have American lives at danger over a civil dispute between twocountrymen who aren't even in our country.

When Hugo Chavez was stealing land and businesses in Venezuela we let him do it
Why not follow that same path now?
Ortega is down in Nicaragua wreaking havoc right now
But is anyone up in arms?

Let them farmers deal with their own problems
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Just to put a different perspective on this issue, I booked a bow hunt next year in SA. I have spoke with two different outfitters and got the same answer "fake news". My PH called me last Wednesday and told me he will require no deposit on the hunt, because of my concerns. My friend Buff also told me not worry about it and go hunt. I will go hunt.

On a side note: President Trump kicked up a little dust last week when he watched Tucker Carlson on Fox talk about this. The PM of Australia also threw a few rocks as well. I think the SA socialist government will do a little back tracking. Of course I could be wrong.

So what is it
We are getting conflicting reports right here on the GS
Didn't Oscar just go on a hunt over there with his wife and kid?

Nobody is saying what they think should be done
Only issuing complaints
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And this will never happen on America
SA is 92% black / 8% white
USA is 75% white / 13% black
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I was speaking to a couple we're friends with a few months ago. The husband is from SA and they spend a few months there every year. They seem way more concerned about this than what is being conveyed here. They don't own a farm, more concerned with what will happen to the country as a whole should this go through.
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"Sadly"?
Let each man fight his own battle
Just like we tell those refugees to go back to Syria and stand up to Asaad and fight for their country
We should tell these farmers they need to fight for their farms
ON THEIR OWN
No need to have American lives at danger over a civil dispute between twocountrymen who aren't even in our country.

When Hugo Chavez was stealing land and businesses in Venezuela we let him do it
Why not follow that same path now?
Ortega is down in Nicaragua wreaking havoc right now
But is anyone up in arms?

Let them farmers deal with their own problems
And fight they will.. Make no mistake about it.. They won't win though..

Why all the questions?
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Old 08-26-2018, 03:39 PM   #95
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Just to put a different perspective on this issue, I booked a bow hunt next year in SA. I have spoke with two different outfitters and got the same answer "fake news". My PH called me last Wednesday and told me he will require no deposit on the hunt, because of my concerns. My friend Buff also told me not worry about it and go hunt. I will go hunt.

On a side note: President Trump kicked up a little dust last week when he watched Tucker Carlson on Fox talk about this. The PM of Australia also threw a few rocks as well. I think the SA socialist government will do a little back tracking. Of course I could be wrong.
I can't imagine why anyone would deny this is happening....
It's happening in the farming country, not the hunting country to the north, but it is happening... It's fairly easy to research..
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And fight they will.. Make no mistake about it.. They won't win though..

Why all the questions?
Because I'm looking at these posts and folks act like Trump is doing it to us.
Also this isn't the only land grab that is happening in the world at the moment (see: Royhinga people) but you'd think Kim Jung laughed a rocket at us

Let's continue what Trump is leading and that is America First and we'll just have to say good bye to those farms.
They are not American farms.
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Old 08-26-2018, 03:45 PM   #97
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I can't imagine why anyone would deny this is happening....
It's happening in the farming country, not the hunting country to the north, but it is happening... It's fairly easy to research..
OK
It is happening
What do you want America to do about it?
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Old 08-26-2018, 04:02 PM   #98
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I can't imagine why anyone would deny this is happening....
It's happening in the farming country, not the hunting country to the north, but it is happening... It's fairly easy to research..
Well, I don't know the answer and cant make an argument one way or the other. Seems to me it depends on what you read or see on the news about it. Here is a link to a Capetown news outlet and if you take the time to read all of it, so much of what we hear might be "fake news".

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...180823#item-94
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Well, I don't know the answer and cant make an argument one way or the other. Seems to me it depends on what you read or see on the news about it. Here is a link to a Capetown news outlet and if you take the time to read all of it, so much of what we hear might be "fake news".

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/N...180823#item-94
Is there a SA version of Breitbart?

Let's say it ISSSS happening
Then what?
What should America do?
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OK
It is happening
What do you want America to do about it?
Are you still butt hurt Trump won the election and not Hillary?........
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