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Old 07-31-2018, 08:55 PM   #1
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Iím not a hater of LeBron, I think he is immensely talented and intelligent and a decent role model for an athlete.

I think it is fabulous concept and only sustainable with private backing. The idea is a full service I-12 school, 9-5 for working parents and extended year. Serve 2 meals per day plus provide a food bank for families to supplement their cabinets.
Provide job placement assistance. And guaranteed tuition at Akron University for all graduates.

But I canít see how this model is sustainable. Just some quick math put the college tuition overhead at 5Mil annually (120 kids per graduate class, $11,400/2 semesters). Or 22 Mil for a rolling horizon of high school grad to college grad @ 4 college years. And thatís just the college tuition, not the overhead for k-12 school and all of its amenities.

And the model doesnít t really seem all that repeatable, meaning it would be hard to copy I Promise in other cities.

Just hope he doesnít break his promise
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No matter how hard he tries he will never be another David Robinson.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:18 PM   #3
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Iím not a hater of LeBron, I think he is immensely talented and intelligent and a decent role model for an athlete.

I think it is fabulous concept and only sustainable with private backing. The idea is a full service I-12 school, 9-5 for working parents and extended year. Serve 2 meals per day plus provide a food bank for families to supplement their cabinets.
Provide job placement assistance. And guaranteed tuition at Akron University for all graduates.

But I canít see how this model is sustainable. Just some quick math put the college tuition overhead at 5Mil annually (120 kids per graduate class, $11,400/2 semesters). Or 22 Mil for a rolling horizon of high school grad to college grad @ 4 college years. And thatís just the college tuition, not the overhead for k-12 school and all of its amenities.

And the model doesnít t really seem all that repeatable, meaning it would be hard to copy I Promise in other cities.

Just hope he doesnít break his promise
Well at least he's trying something different. The public school system is atrocious in a lot of communities.
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Well at least he's trying something different. The public school system is atrocious in a lot of communities.
I hope you don’t really think this is his idea.

This guy is dumber than a basketball net
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:32 PM   #5
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This guy is dumber than a basketball net
This made me laugh
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I hope you donít really think this is his idea.

This guy is dumber than a basketball net
Clearly. Just like George Foreman had zero input on the design of his namesake grill. But people with money and fame can get a lot more done with it than those without.
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My gut says "tax write off"...


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I hope you donít really think this is his idea.

This guy is dumber than a basketball net
Lebron is extremely intelligent. You canít watch him play, speak or coach without seeing that he has a high IQ.
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How can anyone have something bad to say about privately financing a school for underprivileged kids?
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Old 08-01-2018, 06:59 AM   #12
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Absolutely amazing - this is a great concept for kiddos. I have no idea how it is repeatable, but this right here is a great gesture to the community that raised him.

How some of you can let politics get in the way of decency is beyond me.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:43 AM   #13
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At least he is trying to do something positive and give back to his community. Putting all politics aside it’s better than the majority of the mega athletes are doing IMO.
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At least he is trying to do something positive and give back to his community. Putting all politics aside itís better than the majority of the mega athletes are doing IMO.
Although this gesture is good, using his celebrity status to go on television and bash Trump and accuse him of furthering the racial divide, in effect , is actually doing the same thing, if not worse. Heís simply playing to his fans, of which I am not.
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Absolutely amazing - this is a great concept for kiddos. I have no idea how it is repeatable, but this right here is a great gesture to the community that raised him.

How some of you can let politics get in the way of decency is beyond me.
My origination of this thread had nothing to do with his politics or mine, just wondering aloud how sustainable this is and can he actually keep the schoolís namesake?

But Rocky makes a good point, LeBronís comments opened it up to political scrutiny
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As a former educator I am well aware of the broken education system. It is just as tattered as health care and immigration and only becomes a talking point for politicians who do nothing real. Celebrities who take on projects like this are admirable as long as it can light a spark for future progress, especially in communities that cost taxpayers the most.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:30 AM   #17
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I like the idea, he’s putting his money into something rather than just complaining about it. Say what you want about the guy, but he’s one of the few major athletes that has never been in the news for some sort of scandal.

Now how it’ll be sustainable, is beyond me. Only way I think it is sustainable is if he has financial partners within the community also apart of it
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As a group of people that (for the most part) is of the mindset that government welfare is a negative thing and individual charity to those in need is a positive thing, we should be cheering this. This is the epitome of individuals giving charity where it is needed without using tax dollars.

Is it sustainable? Probably so with deep pockets backing it. People with deep pockets tend to have the ability to analyze something like this or at least pay people who can analyze it. When you get to a point where your net worth is north of 7 figures, it doesn't take much of an interest rate to be able to fund something like this. On top of that, there are multiple methods of leveraging your "charitable money" in ways that make these types of things very doable.

I don't know much about LeBron James, and don't really care to know much about him. But if this kind of thing is an indication of the man's character, he seems to be one of the good guys.

Good for him. I hope it works out.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:47 AM   #19
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My origination of this thread had nothing to do with his politics or mine, just wondering aloud how sustainable this is and can he actually keep the school’s namesake?

But Rocky makes a good point, LeBron’s comments opened it up to political scrutiny
And what does this school have to do with those politics?

If anything it should provide a bridge to the perceived other side. We may not agree on much, but one thing we can agree on is kids getting great education.
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I think its healthy conversation to point out the possible inaccuracies by those in the know when a basketball players makes a nice gesture like this. Thus ensuring those inaccuracies are brought to the forefront and worked out ahead of time instead of keeping your mouth shut on ones nice gesture and watching it fall apart down the road. "Well at least he meant well".
Facts don't give two flying flips about your feelings.
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And what does this school have to do with those politics?

If anything it should provide a bridge to the perceived other side. We may not agree on much, but one thing we can agree on is kids getting great education.
I dunno man, hit the Tweeter and ask King James, he is the one that mashed to 2 together in his statements
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Probably going to end up like Trump University
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Although this gesture is good, using his celebrity status to go on television and bash Trump and accuse him of furthering the racial divide, in effect , is actually doing the same thing, if not worse. Heís simply playing to his fans, of which I am not.
Amen, he said he wouldnít sit down with Trump but would with Barry. Barry inflamed the racial divide. Labron is a moron. Well intentioned but no common sense.
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Don't like Laballhog now matter what he does to get a tax break
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Amen, he said he wouldnít sit down with Trump but would with Barry. Barry inflamed the racial divide. Labron is a moron. Well intentioned but no common sense.
Common enough sense to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and not just off of NBA contracts - maybe even a billion if reports are correct.
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Common enough sense to make hundreds of millions of dollars, and not just off of NBA contracts - maybe even a billion if reports are correct.
So common sense is determined by how much money you make? Jeff Bezos has 160 times more common sense than Labron.
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So common sense is determined by how much money you make? Jeff Bezos has 160 times more common sense than Labron.
I do believe that is part of the equation ...
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I wonder if there will be this much publicity should it fail. Or will it just quietly go away.
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I commend him for trying it, but Deion Sanders tried it too, and that tells me there are ulterior motives.

I hope it works and sparks others to follow, though.


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I do believe that is part of the equation ...
Good to know. I guess thatís why people who win the lottery usually go broke.
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I commend him for trying it, but Deion Sanders tried it too, and that tells me there are ulterior motives.

I hope it works and sparks others to follow, though.
I believe this school is entirely different compared to what Deion was doing / trying to do. Deion basically gave his name. He wasn't even a part of the school when it closed.

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Good to know. I guess thatís why people who win the lottery usually go broke.
He has worked his arse off at what he does. Worked just as hard putting a team around himself that has done great things.
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He has worked his arse off at what he does. Worked just as hard putting a team around himself that has done great things.
I donít recall saying he didnít. He is extremely talented and gifted. Just lacks common sense.
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I hope this is one of those cases.
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I believe this school is entirely different compared to what Deion was doing / trying to do. Deion basically gave his name. He wasn't even a part of the school when it closed.



That's because they ran his *** off to try to keep it afloat. It was very much Deion's baby, and he screwed it all up.



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Absolutely amazing - this is a great concept for kiddos. I have no idea how it is repeatable, but this right here is a great gesture to the community that raised him.

How some of you can let politics get in the way of decency is beyond me.


Says a lot about them doesn't it?
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King James? An authority on anything other than basketball? No different than the Hollywood liberals with high school diplomas and zero world experience trying to educate the country on foreign policy and how the rest of the US should live! Just because you put on Eisenstein readers glasses Le Bron doesn't make you a visionary or an academic
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Just an observation from out in west Texas...

I am a Laker's fan. I am not a Labron fan. I wish he hadn't been signed by the Lakers.... I don't agree with his political views, political statements from the nba platform and don't understand his mind set. I could careless either way what others think, but I think the school thing is something beneficial. if it only benefits one under privileged child it will make a bigger difference than a lot of people make in their entire lives.

Obviously, I can't make a financial contribution/donation like he can. I have tried helping where I can with kiddos that are less fortunate and are in no way responsible for their parents short comings. I am not sure why someone would question such a good deed? As I have said, if it changes the life of one kid it is well worth it no matter his reason for doing it.
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I donít recall saying he didnít. He is extremely talented and gifted. Just lacks common sense.
Underestimating the mental acuity of an adversary, political or otherwise is never a good idea.

Heíll make more money by giving this money away and bashing trump, than by keeping it and staying silent.

Thatís pretty common sensical me.
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Underestimating the mental acuity of an adversary, political or otherwise is never a good idea.

Heíll make more money by giving this money away and bashing trump, than by keeping it and staying silent.

Thatís pretty common sensical me.
I think heís smart enough to heed advice, just donít think heís smart enough to come up with this on his own. Now, if he can persuade several of his peers to follow suit, all across the country in the inner cities, then I might change my outlook and opinion.
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And what does this school have to do with those politics?

If anything it should provide a bridge to the perceived other side. We may not agree on much, but one thing we can agree on is kids getting great education.
How in the hell can a kid get a proper education when the educators are biased?Our education system is flawed. Our education system is flowing left, and until we balance this system, the younger generation will no longer get to decide for themselves.
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Lebron is extremely intelligent. You can’t watch him play, speak or coach without seeing that he has a high IQ.
If his iq is so high then why has he fallen for the dem line that Trump is a raciest,homophobe ?
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If his iq is so high then why has he fallen for the dem line that Trump is a raciest,homophobe ?
Eventually you are going to get that spelling correct.
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King James? An authority on anything other than basketball? No different than the Hollywood liberals with high school diplomas and zero world experience trying to educate the country on foreign policy and how the rest of the US should live! Just because you put on Eisenstein readers glasses Le Bron doesn't make you a visionary or an academic
Heís not teaching at the school. He is absolutely an authority on financial planning and strategy. As well as marketing, and just flat out being a good person.
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Heís not teaching at the school. He is absolutely an authority on financial planning and strategy. As well as marketing, and just flat out being a good person.
I didnít have an opinion about what kind of person he was until he started his rederic against Trump, and Iím pretty sure heís not making his own financial and marketing decisions.
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I think heís smart enough to heed advice, just donít think heís smart enough to come up with this on his own. Now, if he can persuade several of his peers to follow suit, all across the country in the inner cities, then I might change my outlook and opinion.
I donít get that line of thinking considering his successes on and off the court. What makes you think he doesnít have the ability to come up with a school idea?

What makes you think it isnít his vision? It isnít hard for smart people to figure things out. But Iím sure plenty of people have a finger in the details.
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I didn’t have an opinion about what kind of person he was until he started his rederic against Trump, and I’m pretty sure he’s not making his own financial and marketing decisions.
And why’s that? Other than him disagreeing with you politically, what other evidence do you have that it’s more likely than not he’s not making his own financial decisions.
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If it changes the life of one kid it is well worth it no matter his reason for doing it.
Thats always a good line to keep in the back pocket in case a tremendous amount of money goes to waste on a failed project for the kiddo's.
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If his iq is so high then why has he fallen for the dem line that Trump is a raciest,homophobe ?
Why have you fallen for the line Hillary is a criminal?
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If someone doesn't agree with me, then I cannot accept any thing they have to offer. This is the mindset that has us in our political situation. Im right, my side is right, and everyone else is wrong so lets not hear what they have to say or even be open-minded at all. Herd mentality at its best.
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