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Old 08-09-2014, 08:51 PM   #1
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I bought a deer lease trailer a few years ago. It needed some work then, and didn't get better with age. Everytime i tried to repair one thing, another broke. So, it's tear it down and rebuild time. Following are pictures of the original.
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I love these kind of projects. Wish I had the patience to tackle something like that.
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These are some pics of it with the skin removed, and knocked down. Once we took the skin off, it took one light push to knock the thing loose. I'm glad i didn't try to haul it to the new lease, On a positive note, we took the window out and plugged it in. Works like a champ!
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More demolition pics...
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I've done a couple now. Fun projects, even better when they are done and you get to enjoy.
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...and down to the bare frame... I've got to take some pictures of problem areas (axel and wheel wells) tomorrow and begin solicitation of ideas and a contractor or two tomorrow. I hope this turns out as well as i have it pictured in my cranium. Have a great evening.
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OMG....WOW...yeah bubba, that's bare bones!!!
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So, ya got a trailer chassis now.










Im in for the rebuild!!!
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:45 AM   #9
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Subscribed.. This should be a cool project.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:26 PM   #11
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The first things i need to tackle are two things i don't particularly have the knowledge to do. See the pictures below. The axle is bent. The bare trailer pulled from Burleson to N. Ft. Worth ok. But i'm thinking a straight axle is needed for longer hauls. Thoughts? Does anyone have a recommendation for a good, relatively inexpensive, axle place around N. Ft. Worth / Mid-Cities area? I haven't checked You Tube yet, is this something that can be learned and done safely via You Tube instruction? I also need to get a couple of galvanized metal wheel wells fabricated. Has anyone got a lead on a place that fashion some wheel wells for me? (The old wheel wells didn't survive the demolition ) I need a welder for a little iron modification as well.

Anyway, axle replacement and wheel wells are first on the agenda.
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AXLES - Why are some axles bent in the middle?
The upward bend in the axle is called "camber". Camber is the angular relationship of the wheel to the road surface in the vertical plane. Axles are typically built with a pre-determined bend in the tube that compensates for the expected deflection under load.
Im not sure if all axles are supposed to be like this but I have 2 old trailers and they are just like yours.
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AXLES - Why are some axles bent in the middle?
The upward bend in the axle is called "camber". Camber is the angular relationship of the wheel to the road surface in the vertical plane. Axles are typically built with a pre-determined bend in the tube that compensates for the expected deflection under load.
Im not sure if all axles are supposed to be like this but I have 2 old trailers and they are just like yours.
Cool brother! Great information. Thanks.
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:53 PM   #14
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1st. You have gone from "re-build", to "fabrication", and I like it! I want to do this someday.

2nd. That axle bend is a good thing!

3rd. I might look into replacing those hubs in favor of some easier to get wheels for.

I'm following.
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:10 PM   #15
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You can probably get fenders very reasonable at tractor supply....is it possible the axles straighten out when the weight is on them??
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Old 08-10-2014, 11:26 PM   #16
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That axle isn't bent, it's "crowned", and it's supposed to be that way.
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Old 08-11-2014, 06:42 AM   #17
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OMG....WOW...yeah bubba, that's bare bones!!!


I've heard of re-builds but this is on a whole other level !!!!!
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:49 AM   #18
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Now this is a project! I'v been thinking about building my own, haven't committed to it yet, maybe your project will help me make up my mind, lol!
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Old 08-11-2014, 08:58 AM   #19
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Old 08-11-2014, 09:03 AM   #20
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Watching! This should be fun!
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Old 08-11-2014, 12:38 PM   #21
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I'm in on this one, this should be good!
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This is like saying, "I have a 1968 Camaro wheel, so I'm going to build a race car." I'm in!!!!!!!
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:16 PM   #24
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That axle isn't bent, it's "crowned", and it's supposed to be that way.
Mike, you may also hear it refereed to as "cambered". And, as Dale says, it is meant to be that way.
Also, like Dale mentioned before, replace those "trailer house" hubs with a "standard" type hub. Can find em at Tractor Supply, Northern Tool, etc. Will make wheels much easier down the road because of the whole pattern of the hub.
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Old 08-11-2014, 02:45 PM   #25
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At first I thought rebuild/remodel was tearing stuff out and putting in new! But this will be fun to watch!
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Duly noted on rims. I may do that. Or, i have to at least buy a spare rim. I bought two new rims to get the thing from the last lease back to Cowtown. Maybe i can find a set of used rims. I'll check ou the cost of the hubs, etc.

I spent the better part of the day yesterday measuring and drawing a new layout. I had intended to re-frame with wood framing. I'm concerned about the front end weight. I'm about to reach out to a couple of guys to get an estimate on welding up a frame and roof to put on the thing. That should make it solid and help keep the total weight down. I have no welding skills, so if i go that way, that part will be farmed out. Plans are in motion. I want to make sure i've got it properly planned (big believer in the 7 P's of planning) before i get carried away with the structure, whatever it turns out to be, I don't want to get a nice trailer built that i can't get off the driveway.

There's lot's of good information available here. I plan to learn all i can. Thanks for the input so far. I hope i don't make a fool of myself. We'll see...
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Be careful on weight. You are about to start a major build, so may want to think about an extra axle. Not sure if you can just add one or not to that trailer???
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Old 08-11-2014, 10:12 PM   #29
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The best place to get parts for a trailer is Redneck Trailer Supply. There is one in South Arlington on Peyco Dr. They are a parts wholesaler but also sell to the public. I used to work there and can tell you they have more trailer parts then you ever knew existed.
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This is one I have to follow! Good luck
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Old 08-12-2014, 08:25 AM   #32
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Go to an AC shop to get wheel wells fabricate, I'm sure there are some Air Conditioning guys on here who could do this job.

And for axles go to Soutwest Wheel, and get a Dexter catalog. Dexter is a better axle for travel trailers.
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Working on planning & logistics. Thanks for the suggestions on the last two posts,
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Wouldn't worry about tongue weight mike if u start taking short cuts on it trying g to be lighter you'll pay for it in the long run just use a good weight distributing hitch and sway bars and you'll be fine if not I'll bring my Chevy or dodge and jerk it around for ya send me the plans u have and we'll get this thing Rollin
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Fenders...http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...railer-fenders
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I did one like this, you will be glad you did. Just be careful the costs really add up
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Wouldn't worry about tongue weight mike if u start taking short cuts on it trying g to be lighter you'll pay for it in the long run just use a good weight distributing hitch and sway bars and you'll be fine if not I'll bring my Chevy or dodge and jerk it around for ya send me the plans u have and we'll get this thing Rollin
I'll be in touch soon. Thanks.
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I did one like this, you will be glad you did. Just be careful the costs really add up
Nice.
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Wow!!! What a project. Can't wait to see it when it't finished.
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Wow nice job
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When you start framing side walls, I would definitely incorporate some long diagonal bracing. That old trailer frame will sag behind the axle if not. That frame needs some rigidity from the wall structure to be adequate.
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Planning is mostly done. Talking with a couple of guys about welding vs. wood framing. I hope to have some welding done on the frame to make the floor one level, and fabricate wheel wells as soon as this weekend. We'll see. I've attached crude drawings of my plans. Sorry about the format. I can't figure out how to get the normal pages to display. A little progress is being made...
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After a couple of weeks of a debilitating case of paralysis by analysis i've gotten started. I had grand designs of having some steel framing welded for additional support. Then i priced steel. So much for that idea. I'm going decidedly lower tech. I believe i will still have plenty of structural support, without too much weight when i'm done. Anyway, i hit the frame with the sander and reprimed today. The next step will be to roll in, and secure steel "flashing" on the under side to protect the wood from the elements. More to follow...
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Go to the "teardrop TT" forum, you can get some great ideas. The key is to stay within budget.
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LOve it! Whatever you do, take Dale's suggestions. He knows what he is doing! That hub suggestion is a great one. Keep posting pics and keep us in the loop. I've always to do something like this.
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After a couple of weeks of a debilitating case of paralysis by analysis i've gotten started. I had grand designs of having some steel framing welded for additional support. Then i priced steel. So much for that idea. I'm going decidedly lower tech. I believe i will still have plenty of structural support, without too much weight when i'm done. Anyway, i hit the frame with the sander and reprimed today. The next step will be to roll in, and secure steel "flashing" on the under side to protect the wood from the elements. More to follow...
Great idea with the flashing, wich made me think, maybe tar paper between the flashing and wood to seal all the spaces... just an idea that popped in my head. Looks great so far! Can't wait to see it come together!
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Great idea with the flashing, wich made me think, maybe tar paper between the flashing and wood to seal all the spaces... just an idea that popped in my head. Looks great so far! Can't wait to see it come together!
Felt is a great idea. I can get the material from scrap at work. I'll be doing that.

As much as i'd like to change the hubs, i have too much invested in the wheels i have, and there is NO after market for those type of wheels. At some point (before i hit the road) i'll have to get a spare rim in the same style. Oh well.

I hope to get more done tomorrow after mowing grass and changing shocks on the truck. Thanks for the comments and suggestions.
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Felt is a great idea. I can get the material from scrap at work. I'll be doing that.

As much as i'd like to change the hubs, i have too much invested in the wheels i have, and there is NO after market for those type of wheels. At some point (before i hit the road) i'll have to get a spare rim in the same style. Oh well.

I hope to get more done tomorrow after mowing grass and changing shocks on the truck. Thanks for the comments and suggestions.
On mine I just painted on roofing tar. Easy and I figured if it sealed roofs it would be good enough for under the floor...
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I blocked up the trailer and removed the wheels today. Makes it easier to work on. I goy the tin in the bottom. It's noy as tight as i'd like, but it's about as good as i can do by myself. I laid two of the floor joists in to give an idera of my plan. I'll have a center joist from front to back. I've got to build a rim around the perimeter of the frame. Then 2x6's will go from side to side. The area in front of the tires will cantilever about 12" past the main frame. It's just sitting there now. No lumber is fastened. When done, i'll have about a 4.5" floor space to insulate. And so it goes.

Oh yeah - i recommend wearing chain mail gloves when cutting sheet metal.
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