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Old 08-10-2018, 09:06 PM   #1
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To all of the East Texas hunters. I got on a new lease here in Nacogdoches. I have never had much luck with a feeder in east Texas. I am thinking about just hand Corning when I go out there. I am gonna do a food plot and a pile of rice bran. Am I making a mistake not using a feeder?
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:10 PM   #2
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you will get a lot of wildlife if you set up a feeder. well worth it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:14 PM   #3
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I would put up a feeder and hand corn away from it. This way you hold deer in the area all the time.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:19 PM   #4
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Use a feeder
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:20 PM   #5
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Early season, best bet is fine the food source. Find that right oak tree and you won't even think about a feeder.
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You ain’t missing anything but hogs and coons. I now only run one away from where I hunt. It’s there for hogs only. It’s like a “pay off” and seems to be working. Give them their area and they seem to leave my plots alone and I can hand corn when needed and deer seem to get 99% vs 2% at feeder.... and those are doe fawn and sub 2.5 bucks

My EAST TEXAS deer hunting has improved 100x since leaving the feeders. It’s honestly the best thing I’ve done. I still hunt corn on occasion but it’s hand corn or food plots if I’m hunting a food source

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You ain’t missing anything but hogs and coons. I now only run one away from where I hunt. It’s there for hogs only. It’s like a “pay off” and seems to be working. Give them their area and they seem to leave my plots alone and I can hand corn when needed and deer seem to get 99% vs 2% at feeder.... and those are doe fawn and sub 2.5 bucks

My EAST TEXAS deer hunting has improved 100x since leaving the feeders. It’s honestly the best thing I’ve done. I still hunt corn on occasion but it’s hand corn or food plots if I’m hunting a food source
I'm with this, but most of my hunting is an hour away and I just can't make that happen three days a week. Best I could do to thwart the hogs is fence mine. Hogs hardly ever come around them now.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:40 PM   #8
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Never ran them really. I’ve always focused more on natural deer movement through certain areas. However, this year we are trying a different tactic with protein feeders feeding corn in pens. We won’t hunt them, but they will be there to possibly hold deer in the area and create movement throughout the property. We’ll see how that tactic works out this year.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:42 PM   #9
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Early season, best bet is fine the food source. Find that right oak tree and you won't even think about a feeder.
Yep. I'm on a lease with 13 guys that have fallen into the feeder rut. I hunt mostly white oaks and see more deer in one sit than the 13 others combined see all weekend.

Still have a feeder up for hogs and late season does.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:43 PM   #10
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Hand corn hand corn hand corn! I have feeders just for a little extra something on the place to hold deer. They do get hit but mature bucks stay back. Pour hand corn and every deer I have hits it. If your hunting over the spot then no feeder IMO.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:47 PM   #11
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I like to use a feeder the deer can't see. What I mean is a 6.5 gallon bucket pulled up in a tree with a long rope. I throw a line over a limb, and pull the feeder up about 20'. I set it to throw 2-3 seconds only, and only in the morning. This helps keeps the hogs away. Deer will find it, and usually have the corn cleaned up before dark. The feeder will last about 10 days or so before running out. This will keep deer close by. You can hand corn also when you are actually hunting. I have had a lot of success with this set up. Bucks will feed under it that normally won't go near a feeder. I also do good just hunting game trails between food sources and bedding areas. I will hand corn those places just to get the deer to stop. It takes time and scouting to find spots like that. If you just got on the lease then I would suggest a feeder high up, and out of sight. Learn the lease and pattern the deer to ambush them next season.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:48 PM   #12
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Hand corn is all you need.
I go to my in laws place 1200 acres just outside Nac 1 or 2 weekends a year. They don't have feeders and I don't use feeders. We hand corn and have plenty of targets to choose from.
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Old 08-10-2018, 09:52 PM   #13
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This guy was a regular visitor last season under my bucket feeder. If you do it right they will never know it's there.






The bucket is doing the hand corning when you're not there!

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Old 08-10-2018, 09:53 PM   #14
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I have hunted East Texas my whole life. I have never killed a good deer under a feeder in East TX.
I am a firm believer in hand corn.
However, I do still have feeders. I just don’t hunt over them. I use it more to keep the doe around.
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:31 PM   #15
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This guy was a regular visitor last season under my bucket feeder. If you do it right they will never know it's there.






The bucket is doing the hand corning when you're not there!
Yessir Iím with you on this. Iíve found using a bucket feeder 12ft up on a tree limb really works good for bucks. They donít even know itís there. Iíve been doing this for 6 years now.
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Old 08-10-2018, 10:46 PM   #16
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I have hunted East Texas my whole life. I have never killed a good deer under a feeder in East TX.
I am a firm believer in hand corn.
However, I do still have feeders. I just donít hunt over them. I use it more to keep the doe around.
I was basically going to type the same thing he said. Feeders are ok and I use them...but I hand corn the spots I really expect to kill bucks. However, Iím fortunate that I can be at either of my leases within 20 mins and can hand corn any day of the week
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:03 PM   #17
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Following along.

We have seen this as well in Cherokee and Houston County. Hand corn a spot 100 yards away and have pics of really good bucks at the hand corn, and not a single buck at the feeder.


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Old 08-11-2018, 02:19 AM   #18
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Been hunting east Tx all my life (40+ yrs) and have only seen one mature buck under a feeder. Think that was in the drought years when we didn't have a acorn crop 2 yrs in a row. Hand corn works good, but still, can't beat the acorns that they will go to first.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:17 AM   #19
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We shoot all our mature deer under feeders.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:04 AM   #20
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I have hunted in Nacogdoches for almost 20 years. It’s always been over a feeder though. Last year I had a bad year. I didn’t see a single legal deer all season. However, there was another guy on the lease that had two setups that I had to drive by on my way out. All he did was a foodplot. Almost every time I drive by he had deer eating out in his food plot. I spun corn and had nothing. That’s why I’m thinking about going without.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:09 AM   #21
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I hunt hand corn and acorns. Feeder is elsewhere to distract the hogs


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Old 08-11-2018, 08:51 AM   #22
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I was going to post a similar question this morning. I think I am going to run a couple feeders just to keep the deer there and hope to keep pigs away from hand corn. I am hunting maybe 50ac.

Do you think the it's the sight of the feeder or the sound that keeps the mature deer away?
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:52 AM   #23
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I’m not trying to hijack your thread but you guys that have hand corn spots, how are you hunting them? Pop ups or in a ladder stand/lock on?? I have a spot I want to hand corn this year but don’t have a decent tree to put a lock on in.
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:00 AM   #24
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Elk love this hand corn spot, just not when Iím there. They only seem to show up 3 or so days after Iíve hand corned the spot. Iíve only had a few pictures of the cow at a feeder one time.
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I'm with this, but most of my hunting is an hour away and I just can't make that happen three days a week. Best I could do to thwart the hogs is fence mine. Hogs hardly ever come around them now.
I should have added that I grow food plots everywhere I hunt. That's where I generally kill deer unless it's a doe. All of my feeders are 150/200 yards from a blind. That's rifle hunting only. I have a bow blind on my home place with a feeder and one in Trinity Co. with a feeder. All the rest have food plots also. That's where I see most of the deer.
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:07 AM   #26
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Feeders are worthless in east texas
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:12 AM   #27
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I was going to post a similar question this morning. I think I am going to run a couple feeders just to keep the deer there and hope to keep pigs away from hand corn. I am hunting maybe 50ac.

Do you think the it's the sight of the feeder or the sound that keeps the mature deer away?
The fact that deer get mugged at them plus they are (mostly) a constant traffic of hunting, filling, trail camera checking scent bombs is what keeps them away. Basically, they know they are being hunted and they learn to avoid them to survive.

Here my tactic most of the time:

Start hand corn now- find bucks, determine if there one in area I want to hunt (depending on your goals this could be easy or hard)

Stop feeding- if they are there, they are there. All contributed feeding will do is educate them and draw non target animals

Move cameras to find travel

Once you find a consistent trail, move again and try to find bedding.

LEAVE THEM ALONE

Hunt- hand corn when wind is right as close as you can to bedding along trail that is best for my approach and retreat


Some areas the deer are born looking for feeders, East Texas is different they are born knowing there is a hunter in charge of that devise. Due to decades of sloppy usage and hunting tactics. Most donít have the land for multiple set ups and winds .... so we hunt when we can. Opening day, 89 degrees, wrong wind... Iím going hunting!! Years of that has trained them to be nocturnal or just avoid ( just my opinion)
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The fact that deer get mugged at them plus they are (mostly) a constant traffic of hunting, filling, trail camera checking scent bombs is what keeps them away. Basically, they know they are being hunted and they learn to avoid them to survive.

Here my tactic most of the time:

Start hand corn now- find bucks, determine if there one in area I want to hunt (depending on your goals this could be easy or hard)

Stop feeding- if they are there, they are there. All contributed feeding will do is educate them and draw non target animals

Move cameras to find travel

Once you find a consistent trail, move again and try to find bedding.

LEAVE THEM ALONE

Hunt- hand corn when wind is right as close as you can to bedding along trail that is best for my approach and retreat


Some areas the deer are born looking for feeders, East Texas is different they are born knowing there is a hunter in charge of that devise. Due to decades of sloppy usage and hunting tactics. Most donít have the land for multiple set ups and winds .... so we hunt when we can. Opening day, 89 degrees, wrong wind... Iím going hunting!! Years of that has trained them to be nocturnal or just avoid ( just my opinion)
makes sense
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:24 AM   #29
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I hunt the trails in Leon Co. It has been good all my 40+years of hunting. I worry if my feeder will walk away in East Tx- I have considered food plots,but cousin has cattle. Camera's on the trails and pay close attention to the wind,IMO.
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feeders do work and some of them very well,, however some spots deer do not respond to feeders


the best scenario in east texas is mature white oaks, surrounded by thickets,
a feeder within site and a well hidden stand on it,,, within the same area hand corn but not within about 75 yards of the feeder, before you place the stand figure your most common wind direction and sun angles,, hunt the hand corn
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It can be if you're doing it wrong. I've got about 100 dead deer that will say different. Like I said in my post. The way I use a feeder is like hand corning, but I don't have to be out there all the time to keep deer close.
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If you have killed 100 deer in east Texas at a feeder then yes you have something working and I wouldn’t change it. In past 10 years I don’t have 100 pics of deer at feeders, but I may be doing it wrong or hunting a different animal all together. But if it works keep at it
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If you have killed 100 deer in east Texas at a feeder then yes you have something working and I wouldnít change it. In past 10 years I donít have 100 pics of deer at feeders, but I may be doing it wrong or hunting a different animal all together. But if it works keep at it


The key is that the deer don't know they are at a feeder. It's the same thing as hand corn, but I'm not leaving my scent out there hand corning
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Going and refill small bucket every 10 days in my area would be the same amount of traffic... but my property might not be the same to navigate in and out of as yours
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Good thread, keep it coming!


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The key is that the deer don't know they are at a feeder. It's the same thing as hand corn, but I'm not leaving my scent out there hand corning
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If you have killed 100 deer in east Texas at a feeder then yes you have something working and I wouldnít change it. In past 10 years I donít have 100 pics of deer at feeders, but I may be doing it wrong or hunting a different animal all together. But if it works keep at it
I have been back hunting east Texas since 2014 now. Jasper/Buna/Colmesneil area. The Buna property has different activity at feeders than the Colmesneil area. I have been trying to devise a good stand and fill feeder with a directional unit on it to try to hide the feeder and get corn out regularly. I have also looked into the ďghost feederĒ or whatever itís called and try to hang a feeder high and out of sight without sound of a feeder either. I think feeders work in east Texas, but they have to not be obvious, for the most part, and you have to not be obvious yourself. I have pictures of good deer at a feeder but briefly, not regular. You compete with rut and acorns and a feeder is not a place to put all your eggs in one basket. I have the land available to find the routes and bedding areas but donít have the time. So I hang 1-2 ladder stands and hand corn those spots and have decent deer traffic. Better than my feeder traffic. I have the same 4-5 does that stay at the feeder area.
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Agreed, BBReezen



I do have one directionally feeder that I set up last year near a pop up blind. I had a few decent bucks, and several does visit. The older bucks never showed. It's still a better alternative that setting up a barrel feeder and thinking a shooter buck will feed under it. They do sometimes, but most East Texas bucks avoid feeders.

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Here's a couple more pics of deer under my bucket feeder from last season.





Of course there is always an exception to the rule I actually had a 161" buck at my feeder last season. 99.9% of the time that won't happen in East Texas


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I live right by my lease so filling the feeder every 10 days is easy for me. I have a buddy that uses a 30 gallon feeder and winch attached to a tree. He is still able to get the feeder up and out of sight that way. To do that you need a good enough tree to support it, and a sucker willing to climb it and attach a pulley


His feeder is hanging from a big oak that produces acorns. It has worked well for him.
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One more thing OP, if you haven't already, check out this thread.



http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...r+easy+pattern
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I live right by my lease so filling the feeder every 10 days is easy for me. I have a buddy that uses a 30 gallon feeder and winch attached to a tree. He is still able to get the feeder up and out of sight that way. To do that you need a good enough tree to support it, and a sucker willing to climb it and attach a pulley


His feeder is hanging from a big oak that produces acorns. It has worked well for him.
You have hogs? I live 70 yards from property so access is easy fo me. If I feed regular at same place more than 4 days hogs. Guaranteed 100% hogs. So by not drawing them to my ďdeerĒ set ups I can hunt the places they want to be naturally and add corn when Iím there to stop them or draw them into a shooting lane. Every area is so different from the pine cone deer to the hardwood deer. That is generally due to acreage. Central east is typically bigger land than northern east, with exception to red river area
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I have two feeders, but I have a short fence around them to keep the pigs out. I have ladder stands at least 100 yards away. In 5 years of having the fence around the feeders, I have a picture of ONE small buck inside the fence. Plenty of does, but no bucks get inside the fence besides one.
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I have two feeders, but I have a short fence around them to keep the pigs out. I have ladder stands at least 100 yards away. In 5 years of having the fence around the feeders, I have a picture of ONE small buck inside the fence. Plenty of does, but no bucks get inside the fence besides one.
Iíd believe it. I put a 10 panel short hog panel around a feeder that was ALL deer that the pigs had taken over..... 6 months ZERO deer. Took off 2 panels, 4 hours hogs back
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You have hogs? I live 70 yards from property so access is easy fo me. If I feed regular at same place more than 4 days hogs. Guaranteed 100% hogs. So by not drawing them to my ďdeerĒ set ups I can hunt the places they want to be naturally and add corn when Iím there to stop them or draw them into a shooting lane. Every area is so different from the pine cone deer to the hardwood deer. That is generally due to acreage. Central east is typically bigger land than northern east, with exception to red river area
Yes I have hogs. I let the feeder throw a few seconds in the mornings only. This helps a lot with hogs finding it. Also if I do get hogs coming in to my bow set up I will try to hunt them asap. I have killed a couple at that spot in the pics I posted, but they typically are at other hunters set ups eating corn all night at their feeders
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Old 08-11-2018, 10:47 PM   #45
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Yes I have hogs. I let the feeder throw a few seconds in the mornings only. This helps a lot with hogs finding it. Also if I do get hogs coming in to my bow set up I will try to hunt them asap. I have killed a couple at that spot in the pics I posted, but they typically are at other hunters set ups eating corn all night at their feeders
Hand corn or pipe feeder is my way. The deer will stay wherever you feed them at. I just prefer keeping it quiet. Ive never seen many big deer around broadcsst feeders but i lmow it happens. Biggest factor is the ease of access in my opinion. If you are close by and can feed every few weeks id use a pipe feeder. If its not convinient then you may want a larger capacity feeder like a braodcast style.

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Old 08-11-2018, 11:27 PM   #46
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I dont seem to have any issues with broadcast feeders in east(ish) texas. Walker/Grimes counties


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Old 08-12-2018, 07:04 AM   #47
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ArcheryAssasin is right about pipe feeders. I've had bucks eat out of them lots of times. I've been using pipe feeders like the one he posted for at least 30 years now. I've never had a hog knock one down either.
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Old 08-12-2018, 07:07 AM   #48
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I'm coon hunting over one I have behind my house right now. Guy has been showing up the last couple mornings. If I don't see him I will set the Duke traps.


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Old 08-12-2018, 07:17 AM   #49
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People give deer way too much credit in my opinion. I went through this no feeder period in my life and it was a dark and lonely meatless road. Build a feeder pen around your feeder so they aren't eating corn covered in hog **** and you will be alright.
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Old 08-12-2018, 08:01 AM   #50
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Lots of great info in read...

Feeders are OK...to see Deer..not so much Monsters( unless he's after a HOT DOE)
There is something about that A frame winched up feeder that Alerts Deer to corn and DANGER...Same with feeder pen...They aproach it like its Danger (for good reason)...

Hand fed and hidden feeders...and directional and cannon feeders do not seem to alert them as the above..
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