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Old 06-21-2018, 08:37 PM   #1
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Just a little pot stirrer from the link (https://www.ckwri.tamuk.edu/sites/de...bbreviated.pdf) posted by bgleaton..!

DO NOT CULL YOUNGER BUCKS OF ANY KIND ON AN UNFED
SOUTH TEXAS RANCH:

You don’t get any feed savings.

You are NOT making genetic improvement to your herd.

Unless you like shooting tiny young bucks for fun, you simply limit the number of mature culls you can harvest in the future.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:55 PM   #2
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I didn't read the link but what you have in black sounds like what all research done by actual researchers has been saying lol
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:33 AM   #3
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It says Unfed, why is feeding savings even being brought up?
It's about range condition less mouths equals more quality range for the remaining. The last two take a little common sense to figure out. Not making a genetic improvement and in the next bullet their worried about not having mature culls... Why on earth would you want to carry/support a sub par genetic on the individual basis, just to kill him at 5yrs old and 115inches.
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:42 AM   #4
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:48 AM   #5
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I read this a few months ago. It’s interesting that the recommendation for well fed ranches is the opposite.
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:58 AM   #6
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Kill them at 1.5 and you will never know what they turn out at 5.5 . It’s just like a decent chic in high school blow her off at 15 see what she turns to at 25? . Might be hot when she grows into her full potential seen it way to many times . But you live and you learn !!
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:05 PM   #7
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Kill them at 1.5 and you will never know what they turn out at 5.5 . It’s just like a decent chic in high school blow her off at 15 see what she turns to at 25? . Might be hot when she grows into her full potential seen it way to many times . But you live and you learn !!
I graduated highschool with a girl that was just plain ugly our senior yr. Have seen her since until recently. My gosh she is drop dead gorgeous
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Old 06-22-2018, 12:45 PM   #8
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I read this a few months ago. It’s interesting that the recommendation for well fed ranches is the opposite.
I would assume that they implying that nutrition is the limiting factor holding back deer on unfed ranches. They could still pop if given adequate nutrition (a rain year).

On a well fed ranch nutrition shouldn’t be the limiting factor so they shouldn’t be small but we all know there is more to it than that.
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Old 06-22-2018, 01:04 PM   #9
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Oh good grief.
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Old 06-22-2018, 10:48 PM   #10
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It never gets old. Or does it.......
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:18 PM   #11
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Numerous issues brought up.
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:23 PM   #12
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The words cull and young should never be used in the same sentence
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:49 PM   #13
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Limiting the number of mature culls you can harvest in the future?
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Old 06-30-2018, 08:21 PM   #14
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I had a very tame doe have four fawns one night right beside my house. 1 3/4 pounder died next morning. Another fawn died a week later. Two, one doe and one buck fawn I bottle raised. Both were two pounds at birth. The buck was an uneven 4" spike the first year. He was a smallish eight point at two years old. At three he bloomed into a 170ish 16 pointer with beer can bases and a 22" inside spread. Been a pity to shoot that buck at 1.5 when he was a 4" spike.....
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Old 06-30-2018, 09:01 PM   #15
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What about pea gravel fed?
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Old 06-30-2018, 10:18 PM   #16
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This slideshow was presented along with comments and discussion from Stuart Stedman. A lot of discussion points and explanations are absent from these slides.

He proposes this strategy only after “losing control of a fed pasture”. This presentation was for a very specific situation.
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Old 07-02-2018, 10:12 AM   #17
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:54 PM   #18
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:04 AM   #19
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I encourage anyone interested in learning about whitetails to look at MSU deer lab. They have done lots of studies. They have numerous podcasts and articles to read.
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Old 07-06-2018, 12:19 AM   #20
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I encourage anyone interested in learning about whitetails to look at MSU deer lab. They have done lots of studies. They have numerous podcasts and articles to read.


The only question I have is do they encourage shooting bucks any age younger than 3.5?


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Old 07-06-2018, 12:36 AM   #21
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That’s a deer from 14, 15 and 16 that I watched and killed him in 16. He’s sitting next to a 113 inch 8 point.


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Old 07-06-2018, 02:23 AM   #22
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They don't get into what you should do or not do. They just present the facts learned from years of study and you decide your plan based on what your goals are.
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