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Old 12-17-2014, 07:48 PM   #1
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Anyone else do it? I will admit that I am a tree nerd. I have had success growing seedlings in the past but am going to step it up this year. I usually try to raise 15-20 seedlings every year and plant them out on my property. This year I am going to be planting 588 cells. I am in the process of turning my closet underneath the staircase into a grow room. I already have 50 White Oaks and 25 Chinquapin Oaks sending down roots. I will be planting White Oak (2 varieties), Chinquapin Oak, Water Oak, Overcup Oak, Shumard Red Oak, Alghenny Chinquapin, Chinese Chestnut, American/Chinese Chestnut Hybrid, Flatwoods Plum, and Japanese Maples. Anyone else on here a tree nerd?

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Old 12-17-2014, 07:54 PM   #2
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Tagged! I am a beginner tree nerd. I got some Monterrey oaks in pots waiting to sprout. Already have some Mexican sycamores that are growing. 2 year's ago we had 6 mountain laurels come up from seed and are going strong and may need new pots or put in the ground. Rosebuds are next to go in starter pots.
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Old 12-17-2014, 07:56 PM   #3
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My mom has started lots of live oaks in her flowerbed and then transplanted em....
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:16 PM   #4
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You should also look to join the Arbor foundation, as a member you can buy bulk seedlings cheap
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:41 PM   #5
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If you need nursery containers let me know. I have a few thousand

Be careful with starting an I door grow. My house got raided for suspected marijuana grow. They found a few hundred live oaks in the back yard and their big score was the frozen broccoli I put up from the garden. Still have the dents in my front door. Thank go my door was unlocked and came open with the ram instead of coming off the hinges.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:43 PM   #6
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The grand daughter had a container full of acorns that she wanted me to plant. I have an old garden that we haven't used since the drought started so I took the sharpshooter shovel and would stick it in the ground about three inches. She would plant an acorn and stomp the hole closed. After about thirty or so I convinced her to plant about five per hole. It was fun for a four year old but grandpa was getting lazy.

I took the shop vac and vacuumed up about thirty gallons of acorns from one tree. That was Saturday and it looks like there are as many on the ground now as there was Saturday. I'm thinking about putting the middle buster plow on the tractor and cutting a trench and planting them in various spots on the place.
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:45 PM   #7
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If you need nursery containers let me know. I have a few thousand

Be careful with starting an I door grow. My house got raided for suspected marijuana grow. They found a few hundred live oaks in the back yard and their big score was the frozen broccoli I put up from the garden. Still have the dents in my front door. Thank go my door was unlocked and came open with the ram instead of coming off the hinges.
Crazy!

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Old 12-17-2014, 08:45 PM   #8
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If you need nursery containers let me know. I have a few thousand

Be careful with starting an I door grow. My house got raided for suspected marijuana grow. They found a few hundred live oaks in the back yard and their big score was the frozen broccoli I put up from the garden. Still have the dents in my front door. Thank go my door was unlocked and came open with the ram instead of coming off the hinges.
How did they know you were doing an inside grow operation? Electric bill high or something?
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:49 PM   #9
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If you need nursery containers let me know. I have a few thousand

Be careful with starting an I door grow. My house got raided for suspected marijuana grow. They found a few hundred live oaks in the back yard and their big score was the frozen broccoli I put up from the garden. Still have the dents in my front door. Thank go my door was unlocked and came open with the ram instead of coming off the hinges.
They would have installed a brand new door...
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:09 PM   #10
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I kinda am too.
I can really produce the live oaks, but I would really love some white oaks
If my farm has none, does it mean they probably won't grow there?
Combination of live creek bottom and sandy hills in Leon co.

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Old 12-17-2014, 09:33 PM   #11
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Edit, back to tree talk. Not wanting to high jack
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:43 PM   #12
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I kinda am too.
I can really produce the live oaks, but I would really love some white oaks
If my farm has none, does it mean they probably won't grow there?
Combination of live creek bottom and sandy hills in Leon co.

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If you want to try I have a lot of left over White Oak acorns. I would be glad to ship you some.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:12 PM   #13
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We do it all the time. We grow all of our oaks for our landscape and retail nursery here in San Angelo. It is very rewarding
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Old 12-18-2014, 07:23 AM   #14
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I'm in. We are planning on planting a bunch this year in Lexington
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Old 12-18-2014, 08:44 AM   #15
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I love growing oaks from acorns. I picked up a bunch of shumard oak acorns at he elementary school a few weeks ago and got them in trays.

The best time to plant acorns.....20 years ago.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:05 AM   #16
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Wish I knew how...following
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:17 AM   #17
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Yes, I've got around 40 live oaks in my garden that I planted and need to transplant once we get enough rain in North Central Texas for them to survive!
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:24 AM   #18
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Years ago I found some huge Burr Oak acorns while on a boy scout camping trip and planted them at the cabin property. I think one of them came up.
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:35 AM   #19
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Very interesting thread. When is the best time to plant the acorns? How long does it take them to sprout, where you can see them?
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:52 AM   #20
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I've got some Burr Oak acorns, Persimmon & Mexican Plum seed in the fridge right now. Going to stick them in some rootmaker containers after new years and see how it goes.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:22 AM   #21
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:25 AM   #22
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Subscribed... I'm going to my grandmas this weekend and she has a Monterey oak in her front yard that grew like crazy. I wonder if the acorns will have superior genetics as well lol. Do you have to do them indoors this time of year?
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:32 AM   #23
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We planted some acorns (gathered up in large cattle lick tubs from oaks near our house) this past fall in a disced up 2 acre plot in open pasture. We will see if they pop up next year. Looking to have a visual break & yearly acorn plot for deer. I cannot remember if it got fertilized with the food plots.
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Old 12-18-2014, 10:33 AM   #24
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I have a three shelf grow light. I grew a ton of trees from seeds. I had two major problems. First, I did it in one of our unused bedrooms and the room had a swarm of fruit flies. Second, when put them in natural light, they all lost all of their leaves. I think they needed to slowly be put into natural light.

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Old 12-18-2014, 10:43 AM   #25
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I pick up handfuls of acorns whenever we travel around the state. Never had any luck getting them to come up but then i never started them indoors.

Saw a great new product on the Sharks program. It was a tree tepee, a plastic cone that kept all the moisture from a watering system contained within the cone. It was clear for sunlight and open on the top for growth. Retailed for abot $5 each
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In. I've got a bunch of acorns stratifying right now and will plant in the new year.
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Old 12-18-2014, 11:20 AM   #27
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I have a three shelf grow light. I grew a ton of trees from seeds. I had two major problems. First, I did it in one of our unused bedrooms and the room had a swarm of fruit flies. Second, when put them in natural light, they all lost all of their leaves. I think they needed to slowly be put into natural light.

Good Luck.
I had the same problem.....I had to expose them for a two hours for a few days and then double it for a few days and then work them up to all day exposure.
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Saw a great new product on the Sharks program. It was a tree tepee, a plastic cone that kept all the moisture from a watering system contained within the cone. It was clear for sunlight and open on the top for growth. Retailed for abot $5 each
I saw that as well. What a great product and and a man I would have around my campfire anytime.
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Yes, I've got around 40 live oaks in my garden that I planted and need to transplant once we get enough rain in North Central Texas for them to survive!
I'm curious, where did you find a mule deer in that kind of terrain? (I'm looking at your profile pic)
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How I Germinate acorns.

I pick the acorns directly off the tree before they hit the ground.
I place them in a bucket filled with water. ( the acorns that float, I throw away)

I then place some saw dust in a large ziplock bag and mix in the acorns.
I add water until the saw dust is really damp and then zip tight and place in the bottom of my fridge.( where you keep your lettuce or tomatoes)

After a few weeks I start seeing roots developing and then I will plant the individual acorns.

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Old 12-18-2014, 07:25 PM   #31
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Finished planting one tray. 49 White Oak, 35 Chinquapin Oak, and 14 *Possible Hybrid White Oak?

*I have a White Oak on my property that produces acorns that are about half the size of a normal White Oak. The leaves and bark look exactly like the surrounding White Oaks but the acorns are always smaller. I am anxious to see how these seedlings grow in comparison to the regular size acorns.


The regular White Oak acorns on the left compared to the acorns of the suspected hybrid White Oak on the right.
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Old 12-19-2014, 06:47 PM   #32
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I have about 75 2yr old oak trees in 3gal containers. Basically used a similar method to flint knapper's to start. I also have a few fruit trees that sprouted by accident out of my compost pile. Still working on buying some property to plant them on.
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I saw that as well. What a great product and and a man I would have around my campfire anytime.
Absolutely!
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:56 PM   #34
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing all this. Me and my brother have a small live oak operation. Trees pictured are all grown from containerized seedlings. Because I am also a tree nerd I gathered bags of white and red oak acorns this fall as well as some "pin " oaks and we are going to see how seedlings from acorns on our water system works. I will use some of this info on this thread!
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:57 PM   #35
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The only thing I'm lacking around where I hunt is "WATER" to keep the seedlings alive.
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Old 12-25-2014, 11:28 PM   #36
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Planted 98 Allegheny Chinkapins today that are beginning to sprout.
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White Oaks are beginning to take off.
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TTT always wanted to get into this but time just hasn't allowed
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Looking good. I bet you are a proud papa lol.
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If you want to try I have a lot of left over White Oak acorns. I would be glad to ship you some.
If you have any left over and are interested, I would love to buy some and pay shipping!

I have done this before but they were all live oaks. I would like to have some of the White Oaks.
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If you have any left over and are interested, I would love to buy some and pay shipping!

I have done this before but they were all live oaks. I would like to have some of the White Oaks.
Pm me your address and I will send some to you.
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I've had pretty good luck with Mexican White Oak (Quercus polymorpha) There one tough tree and fast growers. If you grow them outside watch out for the squirrels. They'll steal them.
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Pm me your address and I will send some to you.
Thank you kind sir!
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I've had pretty good luck with Mexican White Oak (Quercus polymorpha) There one tough tree and fast growers. If you grow them outside watch out for the squirrels. They'll steal them.

I need about 2000 of those for my place outside of Kerrville, Thanks lol! Live oaks are dropping like flies.
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I would like to try... What do you suggest they are planted in? What kind of lights do you have over them? Anything else I should know?
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How I Germinate acorns.

I pick the acorns directly off the tree before they hit the ground.
I place them in a bucket filled with water. ( the acorns that float, I throw away)

I then place some saw dust in a large ziplock bag and mix in the acorns.
I add water until the saw dust is really damp and then zip tight and place in the bottom of my fridge.( where you keep your lettuce or tomatoes)

After a few weeks I start seeing roots developing and then I will plant the individual acorns.
Have you had good success? Seems simple

How do you plant them once you take them out?
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Following along. Very good stuff thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-05-2015, 08:47 PM   #48
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Some of the White Oaks are already 4" tall.


Chinquapin Oaks are just beginning to sprout.


Allegheny Chickapins are also beginning to sprout.
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Couple of those ain't playing around!
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I would like to try... What do you suggest they are planted in? What kind of lights do you have over them? Anything else I should know?
Oaks need to be able to send down a long tap root. There are cells that air prune the roots to avoid the roots circling in the container. The most popular are called Root Trainer cells, I am using trays called Cone-tainers. The lights are just 24" flourescent fixtures with 6500k (daylight spectrum)bulbs. When growing oaks you need to know whether your acorn is from the White Oak or the Red Oak family. Red Oaks need cold stratification while White Oaks will germinate as soon as they fall from the tree.
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