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Old 12-12-2017, 12:48 PM   #1
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We hunt in Palo Pinto county, so we are under the antler restrictions. So I'm not sure how to handle this guy, don't how to measure him. I don't think he is okay to shoot but a couple of guys on the lease say he is. What does the green screen say?
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:49 PM   #2
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If you are not sure then do not shoot I would rather walk away with nothing then getting a hefty ticket, license taken away, and potential loss of firearms.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:52 PM   #3
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If you don't have pic's of him like that last year...let him walk this year. Might be a really nice deer next year. What can it hurt to have him get another year old?....
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:52 PM   #4
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That deer is way beyond 13". You measure from the inside of one beam to the other at its widest point. It doesnt matter if one beam is turned down or goes up in a goofy manner. Just measure from the inside of one beam to the other.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:53 PM   #5
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If you don't have pic's of him like that last year...let him walk this year. Might be a really nice deer next year. What can it hurt to have him get another year old?....
I agree with this.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:55 PM   #6
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Dont think i have seen him before this year. He is just at the feeder every day for hours. Its like he is living off the corn, getting harder to watch him every weekend.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:56 PM   #7
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That deer is way beyond 13". You measure from the inside of one beam to the other at its widest point. It doesnt matter if one beam is turned down or goes up in a goofy manner. Just measure from the inside of one beam to the other.
That's what the other guys on the lease said, i just wasn't sure.
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Old 12-12-2017, 12:58 PM   #8
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old *** deer meeting AR.
Dead.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #9
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Ask your local game warden just to be safe
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:09 PM   #10
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That deer is way beyond 13". You measure from the inside of one beam to the other at its widest point. It doesnt matter if one beam is turned down or goes up in a goofy manner. Just measure from the inside of one beam to the other.

he's plenty old and perfectly legal
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:11 PM   #11
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If you don't have pic's of him like that last year...let him walk this year. Might be a really nice deer next year. What can it hurt to have him get another year old?....
to me it looks like he is on the downhill side, dont think he be any better next year.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:12 PM   #12
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shoot him, he is legal, he is old enough, and he is ugly.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:12 PM   #13
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he's plenty old and perfectly legal
And by looking at his hips and backbone he isnt in the greatest shape. Also looks to have a bulge on the right side of his mouth area. Possible abcess.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:12 PM   #14
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he's plenty old and perfectly legal
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:19 PM   #15
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I asked about this one. The answer was no. Only downside to AR.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:23 PM   #16
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I asked about this one. The answer was no. Only downside to AR.
I would shoot that buck in a heartbeat!

It would be mighty chicken chit for a GW to ticket that one, but some probably would.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:23 PM   #17
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This ^
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:24 PM   #18
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And by looking at his hips and backbone he isnt in the greatest shape. Also looks to have a bulge on the right side of his mouth area. Possible abcess.
I see that as well
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:25 PM   #19
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And by looking at his hips and backbone he isnt in the greatest shape. Also looks to have a bulge on the right side of his mouth area. Possible abcess.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:27 PM   #20
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The way he eats corn, it might just be a wad of corn.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:31 PM   #21
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Mercy kill. That deer is in horrible shape!
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:32 PM   #22
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shoot him..legal and mature
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:35 PM   #23
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old *** deer meeting ar.
Dead.
this all the way
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:48 PM   #24
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I asked about this one. The answer was no. Only downside to AR.
That one would make it as well. Again you measure from the inside of each beam where it gives the greatest measurement. On that one, you would measure from the tip area of the left beam over to where the right side starts to bend inward at the browtine area.

I would argue with a GW until I was blue in the face if he tried to say otherwise. Then I would take it to the JP and his superiors if issued a citation.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:51 PM   #25
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That one would make it as well. Again you measure from the inside of each beam where it gives the greatest measurement. On that one, you would measure from the tip area of the left beam over to where the right side starts to bend inward at the browtine area.

I would argue with a GW until I was blue in the face if he tried to say otherwise. Then I would take it to the JP and his superiors if issued a citation.
x2! This deer is plenty legal
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:53 PM   #26
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That one would make it as well. Again you measure from the inside of each beam where it gives the greatest measurement. On that one, you would measure from the tip area of the left beam over to where the right side starts to bend inward at the browtine area.

I would argue with a GW until I was blue in the face if he tried to say otherwise. Then I would take it to the JP and his superiors if issued a citation.
I don't know that you can measure in a non-perpendicular manner to the beams. In other words, I think you have to go more-or-less straight across.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:54 PM   #27
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I don't know that you can measure in a non-perpendicular manner to the beams. In other words, I think you have to go more-or-less straight across.
Rules say nothing like that. Farthest point from inside of both beams and both of those locations are off their beams.

You can't help where their main beam is located.
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Old 12-12-2017, 01:59 PM   #28
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That deer looks very old...not sure he has another year in him.
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:01 PM   #29
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I don't know that you can measure in a non-perpendicular manner to the beams. In other words, I think you have to go more-or-less straight across.
I know this is correct for B&C and P&Y but I havent seen it defined that way by TPW. In fact I havent seen it defined at all. Maybe I have missed it. On an odd shaped rack like that on a mature buck, like I said I would argue away.
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:03 PM   #30
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Swing away! Dirt nap time! He want get any better and will meet AR!
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Old 12-12-2017, 02:07 PM   #31
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to me it looks like he is on the downhill side, dont think he be any better next year.
Don't think he'll live that long

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Old 12-12-2017, 02:13 PM   #32
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I asked about this one. The answer was no. Only downside to AR.
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Old 12-12-2017, 03:30 PM   #33
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Well if he shows up this weekend i'm going to let my son take him.
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Old 12-12-2017, 04:05 PM   #34
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Let nature handle it. Coyotes and buzzards need to eat also.
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Old 12-12-2017, 04:08 PM   #35
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Let nature handle it. Coyotes and buzzards need to eat also.
I don't know why you wouldn't put meat in the cooler given the chance on an old buck like that.

Let the air out of him. He looks legal to me and plenty old.
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Old 12-12-2017, 08:51 PM   #36
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Let nature handle it. Coyotes and buzzards need to eat also.
No way. Sausage is sausage. He's going in the cooler and it will be a cool Euro for my son.
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