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Who was behind the assassination of JFK?
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Originally posted by Draco View PostNeither the best FBI or TDPS sharp shooters could duplicate either the accuracy or speed of fire that Oswald was supposed to have done with the 6.5 Carcano.
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Were the seond and third targets stationary? (not moving ...so ..the shooters knew where they would be when they had to reposition...?)
I would think that target acquisition on moving target post-first shot (dealing with recoil) then again after the second shot, would add another level of complexity to the equation..
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One possibility I've never seen mentioned is the theory there were two completely independent assassination teams there in Dallas that day. LHO on his own, and a hit team operating under orders from the mafia. The parade route was published in the newspapers prior to the President's arrival. Maybe two shooters coincidentally chose the same time and place.
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Originally posted by Phillip Fields View PostIn an effort to test the rifle under conditions that matched the assassination, the Infantry Weapons Evaluation Branch of the U.S. Army's Ballistics Research Laboratory had expert riflemen fire the assassination weapon from a tower at three silhouette targets at distances of 175, 240, and 265 feet (81 m).[67] Using the assassination rifle mounted with the telescopic sight, three marksmen, rated as master by the National Rifle Association, each fired two series of three shots. In the first series, the firers required time spans of 4.6, 6.75, and 8.25 seconds respectively. On the second series, they required 5.15, 6.45, and 7 seconds. The marksmen took as much time as they wanted for the first target at 175 feet (53 m), and all hit the target. For the first four attempts, the firers missed the second shot at 240 feet (73 m) by several inches. Five of the six shots hit the third target at 265 feet (81 m), the distance of President Kennedy from the sixth floor window when he was struck in the head.[68] None of the marksmen had any practice with the assassination weapon beforehand except to work the bolt.
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Originally posted by Hank Hill View PostGranted he rattled those shots off quickly, but I never found his marksmanship to be some kind of supernatural feat, he was not that far away.
He was incredible.
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Originally posted by Hank Hill View PostGranted he rattled those shots off quickly, but I never found his marksmanship to be some kind of supernatural feat, he was not that far away.
As part of my project research, I used a 6.5 Swede (a close ballistic match to the 6.5 Carcano with the 160 gr round nose) and shot a mix of cantaloupes, melons and tomatoes with the round from the same approximate distance from the 6th floor window. Twenty in total. At 8 feet, I recorded each shot at 1/1000 speed. Not a single time, not one, did the meat or skin of the fruit travel toward me when struck by the bullet. The fruit did not fall or roll toward the shot either. I'm no Sheldon Cooper but physics is what physics is.
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Originally posted by oktx View PostI saw a new theory the other day. Oswald was shooting from the book depository and hit Kennedy. When the Secret Service heard the shots an agent pulled out his M16 and had an accidental discharge which hit Kennedy in the back of the head.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/ac...un-f2D11634276
I just saw the date. It's not new, but I just saw it a month ago.
I think that the M-16 was a fairly new rifle at that time, maybe the agent was unfamiliar with it?
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Originally posted by Livin'2hunt View PostAgreed. I was none too impressed. I revert back to the head shot. As previously stated, I have not seen the vast majority of blood, tissue and body travel toward the direction of any rifle bullet.
As part of my project research, I used a 6.5 Swede (a close ballistic match to the 6.5 Carcano with the 160 gr round nose) and shot a mix of cantaloupes, melons and tomatoes with the round from the same approximate distance from the 6th floor window. Twenty in total. At 8 feet, I recorded each shot at 1/1000 speed. Not a single time, not one, did the meat or skin of the fruit travel toward me when struck by the bullet. The fruit did not fall or roll toward the shot either. I'm no Sheldon Cooper but physics is what physics is.
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Originally posted by systemnt View Post...key in the power of the scope... the size of the target...the fact it was moving... the downward trajectory, whatever the winds were like, the caliber, the weapon itself, and doing it from a standing position ... then add in the distances...and times..
He was incredible.
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Originally posted by Hank Hill View Post"Back, and to the left"
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Originally posted by Hank Hill View PostWith some practice hitting a watermelon sized target @ under 100 meters, even a moving target, is not at all impossible. The wind wouldn't even play much of a factor at that distance.
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There was a long list of people who wanted him dead
His party
The republicans
The mafia (for numerous reasons, I'm particularly fond of Sam Giancana's telling)
His wife (Jackie wanted a divorce, Joe told her to live with it)
The Russians
The Cubans
The Vietnamese
All this is only a part of what fuels all these wonderful conspiracy theories. It has kept me entertained with books, interviews and documentaries.
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The 6.5 Carcano was a notoriously bad shooting gun. In WW2, it was joked that they were so bad so the Italians wouldn't accidentally hit some one, make them mad and they would conquer Italy again.
I just think it's sad that no one will be alive that was alive when it happened will get to see the reports when they are finally revealed to the public. If it went down like they say then why is it still sealed? What would it hurt now?
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bullets do weird things in people. I watched two friends get shot by a sniper in our ao in Afghanistan. Both under the right arm pit as they pointed to something. Guy 1 bullet goes in arm pit exits just above right hip. Bullet went in curved back and exited. The guy didn't have a damaged organ at all and walked away. Guy two exact same shot and exit. Guy didn't have an intact organ left dead before he hit the ground. I wasn't alive for the Kennedy assassination but i do know bullets do weird things.
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