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Old 01-21-2019, 09:39 AM   #1
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In my opinion, a change needs to me made in the NFL overtime rule. An overtime win shouldn't be the luck of a coin toss. Both sides should have a possession of the ball. I'm referring to last night's Chiefs and Patriots game and many other games for that matter. Would like to have seen the Chiefs get a chance to answer.

No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission. Each team must possess, or have the opportunity to possess, the ball. The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession."
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:42 AM   #2
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:48 AM   #3
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Yep, it is a stupid rule. This was a freaking playoff game for a trip to the super bowl. The Chiefs would have likely won had they won to coin toss. What is the big hurry? Keep playing until somebody actually wins by holding the other team from scoring. It shouldn't come down to the flip of a coin.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:54 AM   #4
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The saints won the toss they didnít win . Stop somebody and maybe you can get the ball . But yeah I agree they need to change it .
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:54 AM   #5
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I agree 100%
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:59 AM   #6
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Agreed, every other sport has it right except for the NFL. To much on the line to not have this looked at and fixed.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:59 AM   #7
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I agree there's no reason for the "game over if it's a touchdown" rule.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:01 AM   #8
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I agree. Same goes for the college poll & not having a playoff system.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:16 AM   #9
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anything but the coin toss ... that should be only for the BEGINNING of a game.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:21 AM   #10
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I am fine with it. If you give up a touchdown then you lose.


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Old 01-21-2019, 10:23 AM   #11
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the nfl willingly compromises their sport to make their games fit in a time box. it's absurd.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:26 AM   #12
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Agree, itís better than it used to be but should have opportunity to match.
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Agreed. They just changed it a few years ago from sudden death first to score wins. Now you have to score a TD to not let the other side get the ball back

The coin toss doesnít determine the winner. The defense not stopping **** determined the winner. Stop Brady, then drive down and kick a FG. If you canít come up with a stop, you deserve to lose. System is perfect.
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The saints won the toss they didnít win . Stop somebody or hold them to a field goal and maybe you can get the ball back .


Exactly.... with a little added..
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:41 AM   #15
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Agreed.. both teams should have an offensive possession.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:41 AM   #16
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Stop them from scoring a TD and it won't matter. Defense counts

Mark this down as possibly the third time I have agreed with Smart on a Football matter. Ha!
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The best team won. Nuff said
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Agreed. They just changed it a few years ago from sudden death first to score wins. Now you have to score a TD to not let the other side get the ball back

The coin toss doesnít determine the winner. The defense not stopping **** determined the winner. Stop Brady, then drive down and kick a FG. If you canít come up with a stop, you deserve to lose. System is perfect.
Iíd usually agree with you, but not here. To say they canít get a stop so they deserve to lose, I donít agree with. The Pats didnít get a stop 4 times in that game, but they still won. I know, I know you just have to get a stop when it counts, but a lot of things can happen on one drive. A player gets tripped up, one missed call. Although now that Iím talking about it, I see the part I do agree with. I like the sudden death type feel it has. Backs are against the wall, make a stop or go to the house. I do agree with the concept of it. I just think, giving the other team a chance to counter will prove that either team on any given drive can give up a TD. That way, the team your saying that deserves to lose, it just wonít have anything to do with a coin toss.
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Iíd usually agree with you, but not here. To say they canít get a stop so they deserve to lose, I donít agree with. The Pats didnít get a stop 4 times in that game, but they still won. I know, I know you just have to get a stop when it counts, but a lot of things can happen on one drive. A player gets tripped up, one missed call. Although now that Iím talking about it, I see the part I do agree with. I like the sudden death type feel it has. Backs are against the wall, make a stop or go to the house. I do agree with the concept of it. I just think, giving the other team a chance to counter will prove that either team on any given drive can give up a TD. That way, the team your saying that deserves to lose, it just wonít have anything to do with a coin toss.


They do give the team a chance to counter as long as they can hold them to a FG or make them punt. Again if you canít keep them out of the endzone you deserved to lose. See the Rams-Saints OT for a example of a counter and it working
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:47 AM   #20
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I'm fine with the OT rules. As stated, it used to be sudden death and even a field goal on the opening drive won the game. Back then, it really came down to a coin toss.

Now the rule is TD wins, but field goal, the other team gets the ball and can match the field goal or score TD for the win. I'm fine with it.

Oh and don't blame the Pats win on OT rules. Blame it on one idiot that decided to line up in the neutral zone. That play would have ended the game.
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The saints won the toss they didnít win . Stop somebody and maybe you can get the ball . But yeah I agree they need to change it .
Iím not a saints fan, but they shouldíve won in regulation. Refs completely botched that PI call
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:48 AM   #23
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Maybe it should be a set time limit, say six minutes, most points wins. Equal opportunity.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:48 AM   #24
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If 55 stays out of the neutral zone, they wouldn’t have needed OT.

And Jones reaching around a OL and touching Brady’s shoulder pad is not roughing the passer.....unreal
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Stop them from scoring a TD and it won't matter. Defense counts

Mark this down as possibly the third time I have agreed with Smart on a Football matter. Ha!
Defense does, so make both defenses show theyíre worthy of the win or not
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It should be like college OT
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:57 AM   #27
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If 55 stays out of the neutral zone, they wouldnít have needed OT.

And Jones reaching around a OL and touching Bradyís shoulder pad is not roughing the passer.....unreal


Yup yup... this
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:59 AM   #28
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Defense does, so make both defenses show theyíre worthy of the win or not


They already had 4 quarters to equally show that.
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It's the worst overtime rules at the highest level. Both offensies and defences should get a chance to be on the field

Modify the college overtime rules
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They do give the team a chance to counter as long as they can hold them to a FG or make them punt. Again if you can’t keep them out of the endzone you deserved to lose. See the Rams-Saints OT for a example of a counter and it working
If the argument is, “if you can’t keep them out of the end zone the you deserve to lose.” Then why not make both teams do it?
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Each unit should get a possession, period.
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i agree. Also i think the Refs wanted the Rams to win so bad. How could you not call that pass interference when you take out a receiver and the ball isn't even close to him. In my opinion the Refs think if they don't make a call it can't be overturned. Total BS on their part.
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They already had 4 quarters to equally show that.
So both teams work their tails off and play this game then it's all thrown away in a coin toss.

It's laughable. There is NO OTHER FOOTBALL LEVEL THAT PLAYS THIS WAY.
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Still better than when soccer ended with a tie.
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So both teams work their tails off and play this game then it's all thrown away in a coin toss.



It's laughable. There is NO OTHER FOOTBALL LEVEL THAT PLAYS THIS WAY.


No... the cointoss determines if your offense or defense nuts up and wins the game for you.
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They do give the team a chance to counter as long as they can hold them to a FG or make them punt. Again if you canít keep them out of the endzone you deserved to lose. See the Rams-Saints OT for a example of a counter and it working
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You dont think the NFL got EXACTLY what they wanted....
The Patriots and the #2 TV market in the country....both in the SB

RATINGS boys...RATINGS

The bad calls and non calls sealed it for me.....
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It's laughable. There is NO OTHER FOOTBALL LEVEL THAT PLAYS THIS WAY.


Before 1996 there was no overtime in college or high school so the NFLs sudden death preceded them. NFL then improved on their own format with the current system...

There are flaws in the college format as well. See the 7 OT Aggy/ LSU game. Dead defenses letting offenses score at will and the NFL kickers would make FGs at Will spotting it at the 25.
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The rule is complete BS and needs to be changed. It today's NFL where defense isn't really allowed to play defense with all the ticky tack penalties both teams should get a chance to score. With the crap PI calls and roughing the passer calls they make these days it sure is hard on a defense.
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In overtime, start the kickers on the 30 yardline and add 5 yds each time. Play it like knockout! First one to miss and the other one to make it, WINS.
Or line the QBs up and see who can throw the farthest.
Make it about defense, line the Dline up and have a foot race while dragging the other teams QB from a rope.
Have the Head Coaches play Rock Paper Scissors
Its a game folks, someone has to win and some has to lose. There is NO perfect answer to give everyone the same fighting chance. They'll always be the edge to one team or the other. What if the team the deferred the opening toss, got one less possession than the other team due to the LUCK of the first coin flip and they scored TDs on every possession? "Well they got the ball more than we did...."
If both teams get a chance, one teams offense is going to rest or the other teams defense until they get their turn on the field.
Losers will always have an excuse. But I will say the officiating was more than terrible for both games and hope they get reprimanded for their lack of doing their job. Theres no way that there was less than 3 officials looking at that PI play on the Saints Rams game, and NONE of them thought is was a penalty? Seriously? There has to be some consequences that come out of these two games on the officiating side.
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The rule is complete BS and needs to be changed. It today's NFL where defense isn't really allowed to play defense with all the ticky tack penalties both teams should get a chance to score. With the crap PI calls and roughing the passer calls they make these days it sure is hard on a defense.


To what? The college format so the defense ďcan not be allowed to playĒ for 7 OTs?
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In overtime, start the kickers on the 30 yardline and add 5 yds each time. Play it like knockout! First one to miss and the other one to make it, WINS.
Or line the QBs up and see who can throw the farthest.
Make it about defense, line the Dline up and have a foot race while dragging the other teams QB from a rope.
Have the Head Coaches play Rock Paper Scissors
Its a game folks, someone has to win and some has to lose. There is NO perfect answer to give everyone the same fighting chance. They'll always be the edge to one team or the other. What if the team the deferred the opening toss, got one less possession than the other team due to the LUCK of the first coin flip and they scored TDs on every possession? "Well they got the ball more than we did...."
If both teams get a chance, one teams offense is going to rest or the other teams defense until they get their turn on the field.
Losers will always have an excuse. But I will say the officiating was more than terrible for both games and hope they get reprimanded for their lack of doing their job. Theres no way that there was less than 3 officials looking at that PI play on the Saints Rams game, and NONE of them thought is was a penalty? Seriously? There has to be some consequences that come out of these two games on the officiating side.


Why not rock, paper, scissors best 2 out of 3.
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See..... you already want 2 out of 3 instead of the before mentioned idea.
Have the Head Coaches play Rock Paper Scissors as stated
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See..... you already want 2 out of 3 instead of the before mentioned idea.
Have the Head Coaches play Rock Paper Scissors as stated


Well hell they can do one rock paper scissor to determine who plays offense or defense. I thought were were trying to get I over quickly.
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make it fair for everyone!!!! lamo!!
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To what? The college format so the defense ďcan not be allowed to playĒ for 7 OTs?
No, just give both units one possession, if they both score then next to score wins the game, if you have a high flying offense that scores lots of points like the Rams and the Patriots, by winning the toss the Patriots have an unfair advantage to end the game without the other offense seeing the field. JMO which I am sure the NFL could give two flips about.
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They did have a chance. Make a defensive stop like the Rams did in OT and win the game
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To what? The college format so the defense ďcan not be allowed to playĒ for 7 OTs?
def don't want to see that 7 ots crap again anytime soon. Not sure what the solution is but the way they have it right now is crap.
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I bet some of you believe in participation trophies as well.

The system is not flawed. Get out there and make a stop and you’ll get the ball back. Do your job
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Just play an extra 10 minute overtime period with the same rules and regulations as a normal quarter. Whoever has the most pts at the end wins the game. Basically just extending the game with more time to see who the winner will be. No sudden death.
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