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Old 04-16-2018, 05:14 PM   #1
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Has anyone had good results dropped lbs off a trigger by replacing springs and adjustable trigger screw. or just buy a drop in trigger. Thanks
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:25 PM   #2
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This works very well. http://www.sargenthome.com/15_Minute_AR_Trigger_Job.htm
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Old 04-16-2018, 05:26 PM   #3
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Yes. Did it on one of my AR's.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:06 PM   #4
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I recommend doing the trigger set screw job because you can't screw it up and the worst case scenario is that you just don't like it but you are only out a couple bucks.

Best case is you will learn something about how the trigger in an AR works, you will gain confidence in your own abilities and probably end up with a really good trigger.

I did something similar to that set screw and am super happy with the trigger.



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Much better than stock, not as good as a drop in. Definitely worth the $$
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:05 PM   #6
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I recommend doing the trigger set screw job because you can't screw it up and the worst case scenario is that you just don't like it but you are only out a couple bucks.

Best case is you will learn something about how the trigger in an AR works, you will gain confidence in your own abilities and probably end up with a really good trigger.

I did something similar to that set screw and am super happy with the trigger.



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Thanks for the great info
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Thank you Sir,
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:23 AM   #8
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Thank y'all for the great info
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Old 04-17-2018, 07:28 AM   #9
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That setup will be tons better than mil-spec, hi it doesnít come close to a good drop in.


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Old 04-17-2018, 07:33 AM   #10
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Done it several times. Best setup per $$$. Only problem you might have is on steel case with tough primers. I haven't had any problems though.
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:06 PM   #11
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Thanks 1shot
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:09 PM   #12
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I put a regular set screw in one of mine. I haven’t done the springs yet but it shortened up the trigger pull really well. Like others said, not as great as a drop in but it’s dirt cheap.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:37 AM   #13
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I thought about that, but then I saw how many parts there were and I was afraid I'd have one left over. LOL! Therefore, I did the drop in. Bought a CMC 3.5 lb single stage on sale off of Midway. I wish I'd made the change a long time ago. It would have saved me a lot of frustration with the way my AR grouped.
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:49 AM   #14
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Yes Sir,
Iíve really been looking at this one also has a drop in.



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Old 04-20-2018, 06:58 AM   #15
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I installed that same JP Spring Kit in my PSA AR-15 (6.8 SPC) rifle. Trigger pull was very nice. The only problem was "click" when you pulled the trigger, instead of "bang". I then tried replacing the stock trigger spring, and left the JP hammer spring in place with no improvement. I got lucky a few weeks ago and purchased a CMC drop-in trigger on sale ($89.99 + tax & shipping was around $96.00). Easy installation, fantastic trigger pull, but haven't had a chance to test fire it yet. Thankfully, the JP Spring kit was cheap, but I wouldn't try them again.

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Old 04-20-2018, 07:14 AM   #16
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I installed that same JP Spring Kit in my PSA AR-15 (6.8 SPC) rifle. Trigger pull was very nice. The only problem was "click" when you pulled the trigger, instead of "bang". I then tried replacing the stock trigger spring, and left the JP hammer spring in place with no improvement. I got lucky a few weeks ago and purchased a CMC drop-in trigger on sale ($89.99 + tax & shipping was around $96.00). Easy installation, fantastic trigger pull, but haven't had a chance to test fire it yet. Thankfully, the JP Spring kit was cheap, but I wouldn't try them again.

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Thanks Dave,
I think I'm going to go with a drop in trigger.
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Thanks Dave,
I think I'm going to go with a drop in trigger.
I tried many of these spring modifications and kits. It did nothing to change the roughness of the stock triggers.

Now I use nothing but Geissele triggers and will never go back.
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Old 04-20-2018, 09:15 AM   #18
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Look up ALG combat trigger,Geissele family product 80 bucks and it drops in
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:03 AM   #19
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Look up ALG combat trigger,Geissele family product 80 bucks and it drops in
thanks catslayer,
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Old 04-20-2018, 05:35 PM   #20
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Thanks Dave,
I think I'm going to go with a drop in trigger.
Hi Hoytbowhunter:

FYI - here is a link to the drop-in trigger I just installed into my PSA AR-15:

http://www.primaryarms.com/cmc-ar-15...r-curved-91511

I think these go on sale frequently. I have a Geissele trigger that came installed on my Colt CRE-18, and the CMC trigger feels as light and breaks as cleanly as the Geissele does. Now if it only pops the primer when I pull the trigger.

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Old 04-20-2018, 05:46 PM   #21
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Thank you Sir, i'll keep an eye out for a sale.
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Old 04-20-2018, 06:07 PM   #22
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LaRue MBT triggers are GREAT triggers for the money and are on sale for $99. Theyíre two-stage, which takes some getting used to, but I now prefer it over my 3.5 lb CMC single stage.
I just wish they would make a Flat trigger now.

https://www.larue.com/products/larue...bt-2s-trigger/

I would encourage you not to skimp on the trigger. The $100-200 might sting at first, but you wonít regret it once you have a quality trigger. With that being said I would go with LaRue, or a CMC at the lower price range of triggers. Both of these will be better than the Rise, ALG, or modified Mil-Spec.

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Old 04-21-2018, 12:19 PM   #23
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Thanks for the info BTB,
I really like to stay with a single-stage tigger, my RPR has the two-stage I really don't care for it as well as all my single-stage Remington rifles. Probably lean more towards the CMC then thanks again for the great information.
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:41 PM   #24
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The first AR I built had a mil spec trigger and I hated it. Did the polishing and changed out the springs. It was better but not great. Found a POF trigger on sale at Primary Arms and it changed the whole AR experience.
http://www.primaryarms.com/p-o-f-usa...stage-pof00457
Nearly all the drop in triggers will be night and day difference. I would hold out for a sale on which ever trigger you choose. They go on sale often.
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Cool deal thanks, will do well definitely hold out for a sale.
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Old 04-29-2018, 03:24 PM   #26
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Hi Hoytbowhunter:

FYI - I was able to test fire my AR-15 today with the new CMC trigger. Only 6 shots, but excellent trigger pull. Crisp, no creep, excellent break. I tried to add photos, but I'm not able to do so for some weird reason.

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Old 04-29-2018, 07:08 PM   #27
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I have a few drop in triggers on various guns. I like them but still prefer the $89 - 2 stage rock river arms trigger. I have them on my AR10 and AR15.. it's not Geiselle but for the money its awesome for my rifles that bounce around in jeeps and we hop out to chase pigs or whatever.. So..just saying my ARs are not meant to be bench rest rifles and these triggers are perfect for that
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Hi Hoytbowhunter:

FYI - I was able to test fire my AR-15 today with the new CMC trigger. Only 6 shots, but excellent trigger pull. Crisp, no creep, excellent break. I tried to add photos, but I'm not able to do so for some weird reason.

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Thanks Dave,
I'm Keeping an eye out for a good sale, also watch a few videos on it and all had good things to show and say about this trigger.
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I tried many of these spring modifications and kits. It did nothing to change the roughness of the stock triggers.

Now I use nothing but Geissele triggers and will never go back.
Same here. I tried removing one "leg" of the spring and got poor results - misfires, etc. I replaced it with a top-quality spring. Then I used a dremel tool to polish the sear - that little "ledge" that sticks out to a glass-smooth finish. It is REALLY rough in stock form. Just be sure you keep a sharp edge on it, don't "round it off." I put some good gear grease on it.

Then I used that trigger-adjuster screw device and carefully worked that in fully. Result is a trigger that's not a CNC, but is lightyears lighter and crisper than stock. A drop in like the CNC would be great, but for what I use this gun for, I'm fine with it.

One of the best things about it is, as somebody else mentioned, you learn a lot about your trigger when you do all this.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:30 PM   #30
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FYI - I was able to test fire my AR-15 today with the new CMC trigger. Only 6 shots, but excellent trigger pull. Crisp, no creep, excellent break. I tried to add photos, but I'm not able to do so for some weird reason.



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I have 2 ARís with Timney drop in that I really like but on my most recent AR Pistol build I went with the CMC to save money because the pistol obviously is not a precision shooter like the other rifles.

Well I have been very pleasantly surprised by the CMC, it may be every bit as good of pull as the Timney.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:11 PM   #31
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Thanks y'all, waiting for a CMC sale.
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Old 05-18-2018, 10:19 PM   #32
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Hi Hoytbowhunter:

FYI - I took my Colt CRE-18 with me turkey hunting last week and used it to shoot 2 nice Toms. I fired the rifle 3 times, and the CMC trigger was definitely superior to the Giselle trigger in my Colt.

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Old 05-19-2018, 01:28 AM   #33
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just put a rsa -140 on a 224 Valkyrie...... sweet! great $115 dollar trigger
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Old 05-19-2018, 01:29 PM   #34
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Thanks for y'all for all the great info, I think I may go with a Velocity 3lb Trigger.
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Old 05-19-2018, 06:28 PM   #35
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Will post up some results after installed
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Old 05-19-2018, 07:03 PM   #36
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FYI - I took my Colt CRE-18 with me turkey hunting last week and used it to shoot 2 nice Toms. I fired the rifle 3 times, and the CMC trigger was definitely superior to the Giselle trigger in my Colt.

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Some nice looking birds there Dave,
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Some nice looking birds there Dave,
Thanks, Hoytbowhunter, my first turkeys!

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Old 06-30-2018, 07:30 AM   #38
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Hi Hoytbowhunter:

Hurry - the CMC drop in Lantac triggers are on sale again:

http://discussions.texasbowhunter.co...34&postcount=1

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Thanks for the heads up double, I went with the Velocity 3lb drop in Trigger. Owner was a engineer for Timmany trigger for years. Just haven’t tested it yet, I will post once I’ve tested.
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Thanks for the heads up double, I went with the Velocity 3lb drop in Trigger. Owner was a engineer for Timmany trigger for years. Just havenít tested it yet, I will post once Iíve tested.
I just bought and installed one the other day. I really like it. Installation was very easy.
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