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Old 04-15-2018, 09:04 PM   #51
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You may want to go back and look at your dads reciept. New 23hp kawasaki online is about $1800 and not a direct replacement. New 25hp is about $1900. 26hp honda conversion kit is $2400 and needs a little fab work toget it on there. These prices are for MOTOR ONLY. Direct replacement kawasaki from john deere is over $3k plus labor. May be worth the drive to the dealer your dad used if your numbers are correct.


I know thatís what it was because it really surprised both of us. He was actually just planning on buying a new one too, but the guy that runs the shop at the jd house told him to let him at least price it. He did, and like I say, we were surprised at how cheap it was.


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Old 04-15-2018, 09:14 PM   #52
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Horrizontal shafts...
PM me pictures of the tags on your mower's engine. That will tell me more.
But like you already said,,,,,, and I tell people this at least once a week....... (quality) internal engine work cost as much in labor and parts as a brand new engine --- it chokes down the repair shop with dealing with little stuff (their money maker) --- engines are sold to the manufacture in 10's, if not hundreds of thousands in a package - not one by one so there is no price break.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:18 PM   #53
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15 years on a Grasshopper, been a great mower
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:20 PM   #54
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I know thatís what it was because it really surprised both of us. He was actually just planning on buying a new one too, but the guy that runs the shop at the jd house told him to let him at least price it. He did, and like I say, we were surprised at how cheap it was.


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Sounds like i need to make another call in the morning. Any idea if your dad has a similar motor?
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:22 PM   #55
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PM me pictures of the tags on your mower's engine. That will tell me more.
But like you already said,,,,,, and I tell people this at least once a week....... (quality) internal engine work cost as much in labor and parts as a brand new engine --- it chokes down the repair shop with dealing with little stuff (their money maker) --- engines are sold to the manufacture in 10's, if not hundreds of thousands in a package - not one by one so there is no price break.
I will look tomorrow evening when i get home to see if i can find a tag on the engine.
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Old 04-15-2018, 09:30 PM   #56
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Sounds like i need to make another call in the morning. Any idea if your dad has a similar motor?


Iíll ask him all of the specifics about it tomorrow and get back with you.


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Old 04-16-2018, 01:08 PM   #57
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Just found out jd has 0% for 48 as well. Now looking at a z920m and a z930m. Anyone have any experience with these 2?
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:15 PM   #58
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Scag makes some good stuff. Have a scag freedom z and itís held strong for the last 5 years.

Same here, Love my Freedom Z Pro
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:18 PM   #59
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Old 04-16-2018, 01:29 PM   #60
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Started out with a Toro 56" cut (plus or minus). It seemed to wear out pretty quick so I got a Scag Tiger Cub (53" or so) and have had it for about 7 years. Very heavy duty rig that can take a lot of use and keep on ticking. Will probably buy another Scag this summer.

BTW, anyone know a good tire source for these mowers? I'm talking about the big rear tires.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:10 PM   #61
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I've had a Scag Turf Tiger, 61" deck for almost 20 years. Water-cooled Kawasaki. The only major fix-it was owner induced and it was structural as I was using it to pull a harrow.

I change oil and blades regularly. Clean air filter after every use then replace it about twice a season. Battery Tender is well worth it for battery life and quick starts.

Scag has dramatically improved the seat since I got mine.

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Old 04-16-2018, 02:12 PM   #62
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I would look at the Kubota z4XX series. Not the cost of commercial yet keeps the important upgrades the commercial equipment has. The ergonomics and deck is nice.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:18 PM   #63
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I've had a Scag Turf Tiger, 61" deck for almost 20 years. Water-cooled Kawasaki. The only major fix-it was owner induced and it was structural as I was using it to pull a harrow.

I change oil and blades regularly. Clean air filter after every use then replace it about twice a season. Battery Tender is well worth it for battery life and quick starts.
My dad has the same mower in a 52" deck I believe and its the same age. He finally had a repair which was a clutch for the blades. In 20 years, thats the only problem and it $450 installed.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:37 PM   #64
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Just found out jd has 0% for 48 as well. Now looking at a z920m and a z930m. Anyone have any experience with these 2?
Maybe they'll take your old JD in on trade.

Of course when I traded my 6.0 Powerchoke in at the Ford dealer they offered me $7,500 because the 6.0 was a piece of junk. I told them "YOU SOLD IT TO ME!!".

Who knows, they may knock a nice little lick off the new mower.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:34 PM   #65
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Highly recommend a Ferris with Kawasaki motor.




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Nice looking mower. Which model?
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:45 PM   #67
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Nice looking mower. Which model?


IS2100Z Rides like a Cadillac


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Old 04-16-2018, 07:46 PM   #68
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Ok. Priced one today. May need to go look at them.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:55 PM   #69
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I hav t been overly impressed with my hustler raptor 48Ē. It has just 100 hours on it and the main drive belt busted and I had to replace a spindle on the deck at 80 hours, and I currently have a spindle starting to whine a bit. Other than that itís been good.
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Until i go look at the ferris, the two on top of my list are the John Deere Z920M 54” and the Skag Tiger Cat II 52”.
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Until i go look at the ferris, the two on top of my list are the John Deere Z920M 54Ē and the Skag Tiger Cat II 52Ē.
Ferris is the only way.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:10 PM   #72
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Ferris is the only way.
I called your guy today. I need to price check him tomorrow to see how good his price is. Quoted me the 2100 with the kawasaki.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:23 PM   #73
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I called your guy today. I need to price check him tomorrow to see how good his price is. Quoted me the 2100 with the kawasaki.
He was over $1000 better than any local guys and he delivers to your door.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:34 PM   #74
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What kind of grass are you cutting? I have 1.5 acres of Bermuda and was told by several commercial dealers that the commercial mowers have a higher blade tip speed and will do better on turf grass. I ended up with a gravely hd and have been happy with it.

I would get something that you can have serviced easily / locally.
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:42 PM   #75
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What kind of grass are you cutting? I have 1.5 acres of Bermuda and was told by several commercial dealers that the commercial mowers have a higher blade tip speed and will do better on turf grass. I ended up with a gravely hd and have been happy with it.

I would get something that you can have serviced easily / locally.
I have just st augustine mostly with a mix of some bermuda. I also raise it up and mow around my fence lines in the pastures around my house.

I just found out there is a new ferris dealer near me. Also jave a jd dealer, kubota, exmark, snapper, toro, gravely and skag dealer all within 30 miles.
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:53 PM   #76
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How did we get to point that we need $5000 -$10000lawn mowers to mow our yards?


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Old 04-16-2018, 10:06 PM   #77
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I have been looking at the Gravely's lately, but I will be checking out the Ferris line up... The Gravely dealer is only 8 miles from my house, but there is not a Ferris Dealer closer.. That might be the deciding factor..
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Iíve had a BadBoy for two years now and love it. You can mow all day on 1 tank of gas.
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:27 AM   #79
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How did we get to point that we need $5000 -$10000lawn mowers to mow our yards?


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Good question. I have found that the commercial mowers tend to last longer and cut better. They actually have some value should you decide tosell them at some point as well.
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How did we get to point that we need $5000 -$10000lawn mowers to mow our yards?


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I got an expensive mower because I truly enjoy working on my yard.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:09 PM   #81
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Went and test drove a ferris is2100 today with a 28hp briggs fuel injected. Was very disappointed. Couldnt get comfortable on it. The control levers when folded in were right against my legs and when pushed forward, were up against my knees. Is that normal or was something not adjusted correctly? Im 6’-2” and around 230.
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Went and test drove a ferris is2100 today with a 28hp briggs fuel injected. Was very disappointed. Couldnt get comfortable on it. The control levers when folded in were right against my legs and when pushed forward, were up against my knees. Is that normal or was something not adjusted correctly? Im 6í-2Ē and around 230.
Control arms had to be set improperly. Iím 5í11Ē and they arenít close to my legs at all.
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My dad paid about 2k for a Walmart/Sears/Home Depot *Special* mower every 3-4 years then the POS would always start to fall apart. Meanwhile my grandpa paid close to 10k for a Scag 20 years ago and it still runs like itís new. Spend your money how you want is my philosophy.
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Control arms had to be set improperly. Iím 5í11Ē and they arenít close to my legs at all.

I had to almost put my knees together or the control arms would rub on the sides of my legs. I just couldnt sit comfortably.
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I had to almost put my knees together or the control arms would rub on the sides of my legs. I just couldnt sit comfortably.
Definitely something set up wrong. Ferris is the most comfortable zero turn I have driven. Been on hustler, gravely, bad boy, kubota and Ferris. Go back to the dealer and have them adjust the arms.
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Old 04-21-2018, 07:40 AM   #86
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Bought a 42" Raptor last summer. No regrets. Looked at Bad Boy. Too arrogant, expensive and would'nt work with you.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:14 AM   #87
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I was at the Extravaganza a few years ago and met the guys from Country Clipper, did some research and decided to go with one of the Commercial models...easiest thing in the world to use with one joystick, you donít need 2 hands...crazy power....i am not sure why I havenít seen one anywhere else...but they are impressive machines.
I tought my 12 year old daughter to use in about 30 seconds. Just like playing a video game.
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Old 04-21-2018, 10:16 AM   #88
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Sounds like it had to be set up wrong. I don’t think you could go wrong with Scag or Ferris. The one thing I’ve been told from a couple different sources is the Kawasaki engine is far superior to the Briggs. Good luck with the purchase!
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I recommend the Spartan!!!! I have had Kubota and Gravely with honestly no complaints about either but the Spartan is as good or better mower than either of the others two and you get way more for the money.
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I have a Gravely Pro Turn, it has been a great mower. This will be its 4th or 5th mowing season. I mow about 3 acres here at the house and also mow around the barn in the pasture. It has done everything I asked of it.
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Went and looked at john deere z920m today and snapper pro 125 and 200. Snapper dealer also sold ferris. Turns out the ferris mower i looked at yesterday must have been put together wrong. I think the handles were mounted on the inside vs the outside of the controls. As it stands, i think i will go with the john deere. I want the z930m but dealer says it will be the end of may before he can get it. So now i either go with z920m (23.5hp) that is available now or order the z930m (25.5hp) and wait till the end of may for it. Both these mowers have 54” decks.
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Went and looked at john deere z920m today and snapper pro 125 and 200. Snapper dealer also sold ferris. Turns out the ferris mower i looked at yesterday must have been put together wrong. I think the handles were mounted on the inside vs the outside of the controls. As it stands, i think i will go with the john deere. I want the z930m but dealer says it will be the end of may before he can get it. So now i either go with z920m (23.5hp) that is available now or order the z930m (25.5hp) and wait till the end of may for it. Both these mowers have 54Ē decks.
Whats the price difference? I dont think you'll notice the 2hp. Are the hydros different?
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$500 diff in the 2. Hydros as well as everything else the same.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:26 PM   #94
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Well after 12 years of running my John deere , the motor finally gave out. With the cost to replace the engine around 2-2500, and 0% interest on new mowers, i have decided to buy a new one. I am looking fo first hand experience you have hade with some of the majors. Here is what i am looking at in the order i like them.

1. Skag tiger cat II
2. Skag cheetah
3. Gravely pro turn 252
4. Gravely pro turn 152
5 exmark lazer e
6. Snapper pro 125
7. Kubota 7xx not sure the model right now.

Or any other comparable mower you have had good experience with. Not looking at JD due to their interest rates.

Thanks.
I presently have the Skag TigerCat and it is an excellent machine. In the past I have owned Encore and they are good also. I will tell you this, you will not go wrong with any of the mowers listed, except maybe the Snapper. A commercial grade mower, which is what you have listed, are gonna be very dependable and will cut more grass than a herd of Wildebeest.

I have cut grass as a secondary business since 1999, so I speak from experience.
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Usually, when a fella buys a commercial mower, which is that price range, he is either doing it for money, or has a butt load of mowing. If all I mowed was my yard I wouldn't have one...wait, yes I would.
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I had to almost put my knees together or the control arms would rub on the sides of my legs. I just couldnt sit comfortably.
Iím over 6.2 and have plenty of room on mine. Ferris is all I will ever own from here on out.
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I've got the Gravely Pro Turn 60 and couldn't be more pleased. Cut my mowing time my 1/3. Doesn't bog in high grass and maneuvers with ease.
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$500 diff in the 2. Hydros as well as everything else the same.
Unless you are mowing some very tall and thick grass...Id save the money and get the 2hp less.
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