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Old 07-15-2019, 10:34 AM   #1
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Angry Rant about a late contractor

Well we had some storm damage, not enough to be covered by insurance
So we hired a independent stone mason, ( rant) every day we ask when are you coming tomorrow because we need to open a security gate and bring in the security guard dogs and keep them locked up under control, Saturday he didn’t show up at all , Sunday said he would start 9am sharp ( showed up at 11:15 ) Monday he said he needed to start early
730am ,( shows up at 945am ) no calls to say anything, just shows up when ever he wants, hopefully today is last day , we have more work lined up with him
But after he completely finish this part I think I am done. Really bent out of shape about my time being high jacked, is this normal for construction guys to
Just not keep appointments


Would you let this guy go?
P.S Friday he lost his paycheck ( needing me to return to town to cancel the check)

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Old 07-15-2019, 10:43 AM   #2
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If today is his last day, I would let him finish instead of trying to find another contractor to finish his work. After hes done today, he would be gone. My time is too valuable to wait around on somebody like that.
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:49 AM   #3
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If today is his last day, I would let him finish instead of trying to find another contractor to finish his work. After hes done today, he would be gone. My time is too valuable to wait around on somebody like that.
That is my plan , I just dreading him bugging us for more work ( he seems clueless about the problems)
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Old 07-15-2019, 10:49 AM   #4
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Depends...on quality of work and pricing. However, not keeping appointments is no good. Is he a hustler spread thin, a drinker, or a family man with alot of anklebiters? Hustlers get some slack. Drinkers get no slack. Family man gets alot of slack.

Many contractors will heehaw when the pay is low on a job and theyve got bigger pay outs coming. Ive seen homebuilders in the county get blown off for housewifey jobs in West Lake. Housewifey in West Lake pays better and faster than homebuilder trying to pinch pennies and is at least 30 days out to pay.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:02 AM   #5
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That is my plan , I just dreading him bugging us for more work ( he seems clueless about the problems)


He wonít be clueless when you explain it to him. In my experience, with stupid people, itís helpful to remind them often.


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Old 07-15-2019, 11:02 AM   #6
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Bienvenidos de construction.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:03 AM   #7
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Did you tell him what you told us?
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:07 AM   #8
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I kept detail records on my time they wasted and attempted to do a charge back. It didn't work, but I could tell it stressed them pretty good over it, which was well worth the price of admission, IMO.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:11 AM   #9
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Contractors follow the 80/20 rule. Most of them are terrible, some of them are great and get as much business as they want.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:11 AM   #10
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Keep it simple and seem grateful for his help even though its been a pain in the ***. You never know when you might need him again for something terrible and impossible to get done by other contractors. I wrote a guy off in 2008 for being an idiot but I kept it all business. Turns out last year he needed some welding work really bad and I had just the spot for him haha. He wasn't pleased about it, but took the job.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:13 AM   #11
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He wonít be clueless when you explain it to him. In my experience, with stupid people, itís helpful to remind them often.


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Old 07-15-2019, 11:13 AM   #12
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Keep record of time when he was supposed to b there and when he showed up. Subtract that different from the pay. Don't need to have your time wasted.
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Old 07-15-2019, 11:14 AM   #13
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Just tell him your problems with. It's very disrespectful. It was very hard to break my guys from doing it.


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Old 07-15-2019, 11:16 AM   #14
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Keep it simple and seem grateful for his help even though its been a pain in the ***. You never know when you might need him again for something terrible and impossible to get done by other contractors. I wrote a guy off in 2008 for being an idiot but I kept it all business. Turns out last year he needed some welding work really bad and I had just the spot for him haha. He wasn't pleased about it, but took the job.


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Old 07-15-2019, 11:21 AM   #15
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Depends...on quality of work and pricing. However, not keeping appointments is no good. Is he a hustler spread thin, a drinker, or a family man with alot of anklebiters? Hustlers get some slack. Drinkers get no slack. Family man gets alot of slack.

Many contractors will heehaw when the pay is low on a job and theyve got bigger pay outs coming. Ive seen homebuilders in the county get blown off for housewifey jobs in West Lake. Housewifey in West Lake pays better and faster than homebuilder trying to pinch pennies and is at least 30 days out to pay.
He is a hustler, but some what replaceable, it’s summer and does have some family issues ( like needing to shuffle a kid sister around)

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Old 07-15-2019, 11:22 AM   #16
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A lot of guys go into business for themselves because most employers expect you to show up on time. I said "a lot" not all/most.
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Old 07-15-2019, 01:10 PM   #17
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Take it from me, PLEASE. As soon as he gets to a stopping point, kick him to the curb!!!!! I'm going thru the same deal w/a big project. I should've cut him loose as soon as I saw how bad of a job he did on the slab. 4.5 months later & it's still a massive headache!!
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:05 PM   #18
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Find someone else, problem solved, rant over.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:39 PM   #19
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Some people just have a distorted sense of reality. Even though you tell them thier shortfalls, they still think they are the best hand on the crew....I bet you have met that guy. Lol. They just canít understand when you tell them to hit the road
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:44 PM   #20
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It has been my experience that they all are pretty much the same.
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:45 PM   #21
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Some people just have a distorted sense of reality. Even though you tell them thier shortfalls, they still think they are the best hand on the crew....I bet you have met that guy. Lol. They just canít understand when you tell them to hit the road
Iíd say thatís about 75% of contractors in general. I donít know how some make it so long!
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:54 PM   #22
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Old 07-15-2019, 03:43 PM   #23
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Well he completed the job , so maybe my aggravation is over
I have more work but really don’t want to deal with this guys old boss ( as he is a stoner dude ) and is even more frustrating, I just hate this whole game/ process
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Old 07-15-2019, 04:31 PM   #24
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It might be helpful to explain to the next guy up front just exactly what you expect, and just exactly what he can expect if you don’t get the results you’re looking for. It works pretty well for me.
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Old 07-15-2019, 08:02 PM   #25
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I wouldnít ever use him again. Let him finish this and count your losses.
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