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Old 05-25-2019, 05:02 PM   #1
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I had the privilege of looking at and handling this today. This was found in Kansas I believe by a friend of mines Great Grandfather years ago. Itís a stunner for sure.










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Old 05-25-2019, 05:07 PM   #2
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Sweet!!! and so thin!
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:18 PM   #3
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That is very cool
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Old 05-25-2019, 05:27 PM   #4
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Incredible


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Old 05-25-2019, 05:48 PM   #5
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Could this be a Thebes Point? Doesnít look like the right region but the shape is similar.


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Old 05-25-2019, 05:50 PM   #6
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Very nice
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:31 PM   #7
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Cool
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:40 PM   #8
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Donít know of a type in Kansas like that.


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Old 05-25-2019, 07:14 PM   #9
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Nice!!
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:15 PM   #10
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Donít know of a type in Kansas like that.


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It could be from another region but they thought Kansas.


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Old 05-25-2019, 07:56 PM   #11
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I sure would like to know more about this point. Wonder what a point like this was used for?
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:34 PM   #12
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I sure would like to know more about this point. Wonder what a point like this was used for?
Maybe it is from a Prehistoric souvenir shop the nomads would stop at.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:51 PM   #13
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Maybe it is from a Prehistoric souvenir shop the nomads would stop at.
If it's legit, it was not on an arrow, it would have been on the end of a spear or lance. We have one that is very large, that we found in a creek where we used to live, way too big and heavy to have been launched on the end of a arrow. I know where we found the head, buffalo used to be grazing grounds for buffalo herds.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:53 PM   #14
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That’s amazing.
Thx for sharing
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Old 05-25-2019, 11:42 PM   #15
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St. Charles dovetail is similar and found east of Kansas. I am not familiar with that flint(chert) type though. Hopefully garguy will chime in. You got me fired up to go dig tomorrow.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:20 AM   #16
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Simply a stunner of a point.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:38 AM   #17
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Very, very nice!
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:53 AM   #18
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Has a professional looked at this? I'm curious to hear more.
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Old 05-26-2019, 08:06 AM   #19
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That’s a very cool find.
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:14 AM   #20
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Has a professional looked at this? I'm curious to hear more.


Yep pretty skeptical on the piece.


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Old 05-26-2019, 09:18 AM   #21
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Maybe it is from a Prehistoric souvenir shop the nomads would stop at.
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Old 05-26-2019, 09:24 AM   #22
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Has a professional looked at this? I'm curious to hear more.


No they havenít. I told them to take it to the Temple show to give it looked at. It looked real to me. There is still some dirt in it but Iím no expert.


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Old 05-26-2019, 09:38 AM   #23
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No they havenít. I told them to take it to the Temple show to give it looked at. It looked real to me. There is still some dirt in it but Iím no expert.


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I'm no expert either. It's fun to learn about, though.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:09 PM   #24
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Only an expert can tell you for sure. I am skeptical as I have never seen a piece that big and shape that was authentic. No reason for anything that size other than cerimonial or a conversation piece. The only other thing it could have been used for was a knife. I think if it's authentic it would be Archaic to the Late woodland era.
As others mentioned Gar Guy could certainly authenticate for you.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:13 PM   #25
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Just my opinion but first impressions are that itís knapped from a slab....surface flakes look relatively thin & surficial. Reminds me of a Gray Ghost or something similar.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:39 PM   #26
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It sure is awfully perfect. Nice piece.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:51 PM   #27
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Only an expert can tell you for sure. I am skeptical as I have never seen a piece that big and shape that was authentic. No reason for anything that size other than cerimonial or a conversation piece. The only other thing it could have been used for was a knife. I think if it's authentic it would be Archaic to the Late woodland era.
As others mentioned Gar Guy could certainly authenticate for you.
No reason for anything that size??? You know people like Hogman$ have always existed...heck, one of his ancestors may have made that thing LOL! It went on front of the old timey version of this thing! I can picture it now ďHey 2 dogs humping, hold my firewater and watch this $#&@!!!Ē

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Old 05-26-2019, 03:05 PM   #28
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Just my opinion but first impressions are that itís knapped from a slab....surface flakes look relatively thin & surficial. Reminds me of a Gray Ghost or something similar.
Spot on, gray ghost impersonator. Great piece and still has value but it isn't ancient.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:29 PM   #29
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One of the first pictures I’ve seen on TBH of an up close hand shot with clean fingernails.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:35 PM   #30
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One of the first pictures Iíve seen on TBH of an up close hand shot with clean fingernails.


Can you tell Iím recovering from back surgery and can do anything right now


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Old 05-26-2019, 03:58 PM   #31
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Old 05-26-2019, 04:56 PM   #32
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That is awesome
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