Active shooter or shooters in Vegas

[krazykritters]

People do this all the time. The Benghazi story of the video was told over and over by multiple people on TV who knew it was false.

We are in an easy Information Age but for some reason it seems harder to get accurate information.

Yeah I know. But including the local guys in on it just isn't fair. Then they wonder why there's such a disconnect between citizens and LEO.

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[TXHunter12]

oh by the way they just reported they had arrested a guy a few months ago planning an attack on a concert but never released anything on that.
But hey we're telling you now ok.

Was that the report on the ISIS related arrests in NYC?
I just saw that in the news today.

[Playa]

Take it for what it is worth which could be a grain of salt. A lady I know told me her daughter just called her and that the husband who works for local SO had seen crime scene photos and that public is not being made aware of near what the real story is. SP isnt believed to have committed suicide and more than likely was not even a shooter. LE believe there were 2 other actual shooters. He was used to buy guns, ammunition, other supplies and get those things moved in to hotel. Once his job was finished he was no longer needed. The girlfriend is believed to be a big part of this investigation. The $100,000 is also a payment of some sort.

Like I said take it for what it is worth. I thought it was interesting for the simple fact that he was able to see more and different pictures than the rest of us have. There could be zero to this story.

That actually makes a lot or sense and is very plausible. A professional gambler is bound to owe some shady folks money who can put their hooks in him.

Makes sense considering.. Very plausible.
We shall see. The truth will eventually be revealed..

The only truth that will be revealed is what they want us to know.

[Livin'2hunt]

That actually makes a lot or sense and is very plausible. A professional gambler is bound to owe some shady folks money who can put their hooks in him.



The only truth that will be revealed is what they want us to know.

That's what I think.

[Bill]

It makes no sense if you want to inflict maximum damage in the crowd to move from window to window to shoot and losing the shooting time spent in transit. Zero. He know the police would be at his door in x minutes, so why not keep shooting?


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[PondPopper]

That actually makes a lot or sense and is very plausible. A professional gambler is bound to owe some shady folks money who can put their hooks in him.



The only truth that will be revealed is what they want us to know.

Roger that... Business as usual...

[Deer716]

Since your saying that. They have said he broke 2 windows for 2 different shoot positions & also been said 2 broken windows to reduce smoke from guns. HOWEVER the sheriff said in the briefing that the adjoining door was closed after the 1st breach. I highly doubt he closed the door behind him each time he went through.

It makes no sense if you want to inflict maximum damage in the crowd to move from window to window to shoot and losing the shooting time spent in transit. Zero. He know the police would be at his door in x minutes, so why not keep shooting?


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[Playa]

That's what I think.

Actually... I think he may have been laundering money. Listened to a 25 min presser his brother gave and it just didn't make sense. He kept talking about how wealthy the entire family was and it was all because of Stephen. Stephen never had more than a slightly above average job income wise. So what does an accountant do to accumulate that much wealth and keep it coming in to live the sort of lifestyle his brother maintained (hin: it's not from risking it all at casinos, especially slot machines).

Since we are all into wild theories here- he was laundering money for ISIS, flowing money out of the states and they needed him dead for one reason or another and so they killed 2 birds with one stone and had a deadly shooting and eliminated him all at once.

[adam_p]

It makes no sense if you want to inflict maximum damage in the crowd to move from window to window to shoot and losing the shooting time spent in transit. Zero. He know the police would be at his door in x minutes, so why not keep shooting?


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Second window could have been for air flow. Several hundred rounds would fill the room with smoke and crap pretty quick. Especially if it was crap ammo.

[Playa]

Second window could have been for air flow. Several hundred rounds would fill the room with smoke and crap pretty quick. Especially if it was crap ammo.

I think it was reported that there a gun mounted tripod at each window and one was angled at the aviation fuel depot while the other was angled at the concert

[wtx223]

Actually... I think he may have been laundering money. Listened to a 25 min presser his brother gave and it just didn't make sense. He kept talking about how wealthy the entire family was and it was all because of Stephen. Stephen never had more than a slightly above average job income wise. So what does an accountant do to accumulate that much wealth and keep it coming in to live the sort of lifestyle his brother maintained (hin: it's not from risking it all at casinos, especially slot machines).

Since we are all into wild theories here- he was laundering money for ISIS, flowing money out of the states and they needed him dead for one reason or another and so they killed 2 birds with one stone and had a deadly shooting and eliminated him all at once.

I agree on the money laundering. Read somewhere his income from 2015 was over $5 million, with majority being gambling related. He is one of the worlds best gamblers if he profited that much, especially as often as he played. Not buying it. Cleaning illegal cash, getting paid in cash?

[J Wales]

I've been staring at this photo since yesterday... at first i was like many people wondering why he had a black sock on his left hand. But the more I look at, it looks more like that is the sleeve of either a windbreaker or light jacket. Begs the question, why is it like that... is it common for someone to clumsily try to remove their jacket like that before they eat a bullet?

While I have seen jackets pulled off in that manner during a fight, or someone being yanked from behind....

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Edit... wife showed me a clearer pic.... it's a weapon stock his hand is laying on.

Whew

On the theory that someone else may have shot him...I find it strange how his legs and feet are positioned in this picture. Especially how his left foot is laying underneath the rifle on the bipod. It seems if he fell from a standing position, he would not be laying that straight and his foot wouldn't have nicely settled under that rifle. He wouldn't have done it sitting down while sitting on a rifle. Also, his left hand appears to be gripping the AR handle underneath him. I just can't figure how he would come to lay like that if he shot himself.

But I also can't imagine how anyone else would have escaped, so I'm lost.

[TXHunter12]

On the theory that someone else may have shot him...I find it strange how his legs and feet are positioned in this picture. Especially how his left foot is laying underneath the rifle on the bipod. It seems if he fell from a standing position, he would not be laying that straight and his foot wouldn't have nicely settled under that rifle. He wouldn't have done it sitting down while sitting on a rifle. Also, his left hand appears to be gripping the AR handle underneath him. I just can't figure how he would come to lay like that if he shot himself.

But I also can't imagine how anyone else would have escaped, so I'm lost.

Well there would be video of someone escaping.
Have you seen one video of anything?

Person with him the female- if there is someone you are trying to find you'd think they would post a picture to help locate her right.
Nothing!

[adam_p]

I think it was reported that there a gun mounted tripod at each window and one was angled at the aviation fuel depot while the other was angled at the concert

Possible, I quit watching the press conferences because they were a joke that never gave a bit of relevant info, and I quit reading the news because it was all just speculation and BS.

I'm convinced we will not hear the motive but I do not believe it is some big government conspiracy. Apparently today's press conference was a complete joke with a new puppet that dodged every question.

[Thumper]

It would be that old windbag...

The NRA's current position on the bump stock is....."total amazement when approved by the Obama administration, they should be outlawed and confiscated." And GOP will introduce the legislation to this.