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    When is an SBR not an SBR?

    When the ATF says so!

    An announcement from Franklin Armory.

    Trying to decide if this is fake.

    An sbr
    Designed to be fired from shoulder
    1. Less than 16"
    Or
    2. Less than 26" overall

    Okay. My prediction.
    1. They took a mission first tactical stock that weighs 6 oz and convince the ATF that it's a stabilizing blade by putting a strap around it

    2. 1 rd per Trigger pull = rifle. This fires once when pulled and once when released. Therefore doesn't meet definition of rifle

    Could they play off this definition to move it Into firearm catagory?



    https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2018...-atf-approval/

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    Last edited by SC-Texas; 01-11-2018, 10:17 PM.

    #2
    Super interesting. We will find out for sure in two weeks I imagine.

    Are you going to the shot show?

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      #3
      It's a train wreck waiting to happen...no way is this gonna slide by ATF after the bump stock fiasco.

      My prediction DOA and/or a play to never even reach production but actually get attn to the company with SHOT timing...I wouldn't touch this as a consumer if I valued my privacy if even available.

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        #4
        How is this possible? Makes no sense?

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          #5
          My guess would be that the buffer tube only has one position so the stock won't extend. The ATF has said that the pistol braces are shoulderable but become a SBR when the LOP is increased. They are riding on a fine line that I wouldn't want to put to the test.

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            #6
            The term “short-barreled rifle” means:
            1. a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length
            and
            2. any weapon
            A. made from a rifle if such weapon, as modified,
            B. has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches.

            Is that It? Do yall see that?

            That is an AND!
            This reformation.
            1. Barrel less than 16"
            2. NOT MADE FROM A RIFLE OR does this matter?
            3. Is NOT less than 26" overall length


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              #7
              My guess is it’s a smooth bore. Which is absolutely stupid.

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                #8
                Originally posted by trophy8 View Post
                My guess is it’s a smooth bore. Which is absolutely stupid.
                It’s not ..

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                  #9
                  We won't know until SHOT, but my guess is something simple that has been overlooked regarding length and what the firearm is actually considered.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by trophy8 View Post
                    My guess is it’s a smooth bore. Which is absolutely stupid.


                    In the comments somebody said it is a smooth bore with rifled muzzle device, but I think that was a WAG.



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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sabineshooter View Post
                      It’s not ..
                      Well it seems you’ve seen it. Tell us what the catch is haha

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                        #12
                        Recent history warns that what the BATFE says today could be reversed for no apparent reason tomorrow. I'm betting that that is what happens here.

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                          #13
                          i have an SBR I guess....but get around it bc the butt stock. So it's a 300 BLK pistol legally

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                            #14
                            So. It gets better . . . ATF has confirmed that no letter has been issued for this firearm according to recoil web

                            Read: Has Franklin Armory found an ATF loophole? from Ryan Cleckner on January 12, 2018 for Recoil.


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                              #15
                              Originally posted by SC-Texas View Post
                              So. It gets better . . . ATF has confirmed that no letter has been issued for this firearm according to recoil web

                              Read: Has Franklin Armory found an ATF loophole? from Ryan Cleckner on January 12, 2018 for Recoil.


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                              Interesting

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