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Old 09-18-2019, 05:08 PM   #6201
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:20 PM   #6202
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3 questions...

1) whatís the most important tip for a greenhorn elk hunter.

2) Iíve been e-scouting and THINK Iím looking at good country, but how do you know with never setting foot some where itís got an elk population?

3) for a guy with zero preference points any where whatís some of the best high odd draws to look into? Iím goin OTC next year in CO


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Ok here is my opinion

#1: buy tags, donít worry about the best gear. You need to hunt elk to get elk hunting experience. People want the best and newest gear first, then they go hunting. But all that gear canít replace boots on the ground experience. Just go!! Also, chase every bugle once you hear one.

#2: everything will look way way different once you have boots on the ground. There are elk all over the place, and no matter what features people say to check out, elk are where you find them. My best advice about e scouting is have a plan a-f. Keep checking areas out until you find elk sign then stay put.

#3: get a GoHunt account and do youíre homework!! Iíve spent no joke hours upon hours researching this exact topic. Colorado and Idaho have lots of opportunity.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:29 PM   #6203
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3 questions...

1) what’s the most important tip for a greenhorn elk hunter.

2) I’ve been e-scouting and THINK I’m looking at good country, but how do you know with never setting foot some where it’s got an elk population?

3) for a guy with zero preference points any where what’s some of the best high odd draws to look into? I’m goin OTC next year in CO


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1. You need to be ready to kill an elk at all times. Focus and positive attitude are key, because parts of your hunt are gonna suck.

2. Call the local biologist to get some ideas about where to focus your scouting, access, road closures, etc. And, then call him a week or two before your hunt. If I had been focused and ready, this would have gotten me a good bull opening morning last year.

3. That is going to vary year to year. I'd sign up for every subscription service you can get (Huntin Fool, GoHunt, etc.) They are alot cheaper than tag soup. Also, New Mexico has terrible odds for many units, but you have the same chance as every other non resident.
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Old 09-18-2019, 05:57 PM   #6204
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3 questions...

1) what’s the most important tip for a greenhorn elk hunter.

2) I’ve been e-scouting and THINK I’m looking at good country, but how do you know with never setting foot some where it’s got an elk population?

3) for a guy with zero preference points any where what’s some of the best high odd draws to look into? I’m goin OTC next year in CO


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1) just go, elk are where you find them(this week I have found elk at 5k to 9k ft, and everything in between
2) you don’t, you just think it meets food, water and cover, often it doesn’t Look same in person, refer back to #1
3) you need to have a draw plan... Idaho and NM have a Non PP draw, if you can afford the entry and license, CO should be a back up.

4) experience is gained only in person regardless of unit/state/ etc. don’t over think it. Tons of bow hunters kill elk by walking, spotting, stalking(bedding/cutting off/sneakin) and killing, and they don’t even call.


PS Found a box, will ship Monday when I get back in town. Headed back out to chase deer.
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Old 09-18-2019, 06:17 PM   #6205
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3 questions...

1) whatís the most important tip for a greenhorn elk hunter.

2) Iíve been e-scouting and THINK Iím looking at good country, but how do you know with never setting foot some where itís got an elk population?

3) for a guy with zero preference points any where whatís some of the best high odd draws to look into? Iím goin OTC next year in CO


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1) Finding elk is the hardest part, next to keeping a good attitude on the nth day when you still haven't found elk. Expect to work for it and make sure your 4th and 5th back up spots aren't your last back up spots or you may find yourself overwhelmed and heading home early.

2)Without ever stepping foot in there, you only know what you know. Once you do find elk or elk sign, try to really diagnose the area and find out why the elk are there and what signs you can identify from that on Sat/Topo maps. Utilize the **** out of GoHunt/OnX/etc. The info on those websites is worth gold.

3)Again get a GoHunt account. There are some different discount codes you can use when you sign up as well.

When you walk around a little bit in the mountains, it's pretty easy to figure out why only ~10% of elk hunters kill an elk. ~90% of the guys don't have what it takes and are usually within spitting distance of the trail/bottom of the mtn.

--2nd year western hunter who hasn't killed an elk yet but got dang close!
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:45 PM   #6206
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We are headed up to Gunnison Friday morning early. This is our 4th year to hunt this and we are going a little later to try and catch the bugle. Has anyone heard if they are loud up there in that area yet?
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Old 09-18-2019, 10:59 PM   #6207
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Ok here is my opinion

#1: buy tags, donít worry about the best gear. You need to hunt elk to get elk hunting experience. People want the best and newest gear first, then they go hunting. But all that gear canít replace boots on the ground experience. Just go!! Also, chase every bugle once you hear one.

#2: everything will look way way different once you have boots on the ground. There are elk all over the place, and no matter what features people say to check out, elk are where you find them. My best advice about e scouting is have a plan a-f. Keep checking areas out until you find elk sign then stay put.

#3: get a GoHunt account and do youíre homework!! Iíve spent no joke hours upon hours researching this exact topic. Colorado and Idaho have lots of opportunity.
this!!
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:00 PM   #6208
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My Opinion:
1) Finding elk is the hardest part, next to keeping a good attitude on the nth day when you still haven't found elk. Expect to work for it and make sure your 4th and 5th back up spots aren't your last back up spots or you may find yourself overwhelmed and heading home early.

2)Without ever stepping foot in there, you only know what you know. Once you do find elk or elk sign, try to really diagnose the area and find out why the elk are there and what signs you can identify from that on Sat/Topo maps. Utilize the **** out of GoHunt/OnX/etc. The info on those websites is worth gold.

3)Again get a GoHunt account. There are some different discount codes you can use when you sign up as well.

When you walk around a little bit in the mountains, it's pretty easy to figure out why only ~10% of elk hunters kill an elk. ~90% of the guys don't have what it takes and are usually within spitting distance of the trail/bottom of the mtn.

--2nd year western hunter who hasn't killed an elk yet but got dang close!
This also..
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:16 PM   #6209
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There were 2 separate griz attacks in SW Montana. Two guys got off lucky, thereís a picture of them in Shedhorn Sports in hospital blues buying new clothes. The other hunter was not as lucky, he was brought to Sheridan Medical Center for initial care then up to Butte. All theyíre saying is itís serious. Please say a prayer for him and BE BEAR AWARE.

https://www.kbzk.com/news/local-news...elly-mountains

I saw almost 100 elk near our house at sunset, theyíre smart enough to stay on ranches which do not allow hunting. Iím going to the national forest tomorrow and hunting the closest area. The griz are starting to really concern me since Iíve hunting solo in other areas where they are. Bear can be anywhere but thereís no recent sightings locally.



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Old 09-18-2019, 11:29 PM   #6210
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We are headed up to Gunnison Friday morning early. This is our 4th year to hunt this and we are going a little later to try and catch the bugle. Has anyone heard if they are loud up there in that area yet?
I hunted gunnison for the first 2 weeks.. left last Saturday and they were pretty quiet. I'm going next year the last 2 weeks to try to catch the bugle. It was real hot and dry the first week got more wind and rain the second .. cooled off a bit before we left..
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:34 AM   #6211
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Still unseasonably warm and the supposed to stay that way all the way to the end of archery season. Just returned and they were quieter than ever heard them. Saw one huge herd that had about 120 elk in it still together last week which is highly unusual for mid Sept. This was in central Colo
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:43 AM   #6212
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Thank you guys! Me an my wife are planning to go up next spring and hike two areas Iíve escouted. Just to get a look at the terrain, and have a game plan i will be adding gohunt app today! Thanks again for all the help


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Old 09-19-2019, 09:55 AM   #6213
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Ok here is my opinion

#1: buy tags, donít worry about the best gear. You need to hunt elk to get elk hunting experience. People want the best and newest gear first, then they go hunting. But all that gear canít replace boots on the ground experience. Just go!! Also, chase every bugle once you hear one.

#2: everything will look way way different once you have boots on the ground. There are elk all over the place, and no matter what features people say to check out, elk are where you find them. My best advice about e scouting is have a plan a-f. Keep checking areas out until you find elk sign then stay put.

#3: get a GoHunt account and do youíre homework!! Iíve spent no joke hours upon hours researching this exact topic. Colorado and Idaho have lots of opportunity.
^^^ This is what I have been telling people for years. Don't worry about gear, don't worry about saving money to buy the gear before you can go. GO NOW! or asap. Nothing is better than experience. Elk hunting is not a one and done trip. Your first trip is just the beginning. It's hard, You are not likely to get one on your first trip, and the gear you have will have nothing to do with that. But be warned. you will be addicted!

Don't pack in. Stay mobile and able to hunt a new area each day if needed.
If the elk aren't there, MOVE. I typically walk more miles each day than other guys "pack in"
I prefer staying in a tent in the middle of the area I want to hunt. Then drive to each area that I am going to hunt. That may mean driving up to an hour in the mornings.

Another way, would be to stay in a room in the nearest town, again I don't mind driving a bit in the mornings. A hot shower and a good nights sleep in a real bed can make you a better hunter.
And think, You can pay for your room, food, and gas, With the $6-$700 you didn't spend on that pack.

As far as podcasts listen to Got game tech, The ones with Paul Medel (the Elknut)

Just get out there! I leave in the morning and I can't wait!!! I have been going since 91 and still get more pumped about it than anything!
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:01 AM   #6214
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We are headed up to Gunnison Friday morning early. This is our 4th year to hunt this and we are going a little later to try and catch the bugle. Has anyone heard if they are loud up there in that area yet?
We have the same plan, different area. I think you were very smart to go at this time

Good Luck!!!
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:10 PM   #6215
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Time to get to packing!
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:17 PM   #6216
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Time to get to packing!
Congrats. In for more pics!
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:43 PM   #6217
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[QUOTE=bboswell;14378504]Time to get to packing!
Uh oh....looks like a big burly horned brute.
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:51 PM   #6218
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Time to get to packing!


Congrats, the pack out is a reward in my mind. Itís something you GET to do instead of HAVE to do
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:04 PM   #6219
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:22 PM   #6220
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Mass for days! What a stud bull, congrats!
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Old 09-19-2019, 04:41 PM   #6221
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Heck yeah, Congrats! Really nice mass.

My buddy shot a bull a few days ago and Iíve passed on 3 different 5x5ís from 15-40 yards. Still have another 5 days.
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Old 09-19-2019, 05:31 PM   #6222
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Man yíall are making this hard!


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Old 09-19-2019, 05:31 PM   #6223
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1) just go, elk are where you find them(this week I have found elk at 5k to 9k ft, and everything in between
2) you donít, you just think it meets food, water and cover, often it doesnít Look same in person, refer back to #1
3) you need to have a draw plan... Idaho and NM have a Non PP draw, if you can afford the entry and license, CO should be a back up.

4) experience is gained only in person regardless of unit/state/ etc. donít over think it. Tons of bow hunters kill elk by walking, spotting, stalking(bedding/cutting off/sneakin) and killing, and they donít even call.


PS Found a box, will ship Monday when I get back in town. Headed back out to chase deer.


Sounds good brother GOOD LUCK!!


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Old 09-19-2019, 06:39 PM   #6224
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Congrats bboswell!!!!!!!
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:33 PM   #6225
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Nice bull!
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Old 09-19-2019, 07:53 PM   #6226
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Man that's a nice bull.

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Old 09-19-2019, 10:48 PM   #6227
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Guys, fresh Elk hart and onions is the BOMB!!
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Old 09-19-2019, 10:49 PM   #6228
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Heck yeah, Congrats! Really nice mass.

My buddy shot a bull a few days ago and Iíve passed on 3 different 5x5ís from 15-40 yards. Still have another 5 days.
Heck yea ! Congrats man
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Old 09-21-2019, 02:18 PM   #6229
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What a great bull, bboswell! Serious mass!

I killed this small 6x6 Thursday evening.
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:24 PM   #6230
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Got my bull Wednesday morning. Incredible hunt and very rewarding to get it done on public land and solo. Fought some bad rain and way too many guides that think they own the national forest. He cane in bugling and have me a 30 yard quartering too shot and I hammered him.


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Old 09-22-2019, 04:25 PM   #6231
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Old 09-22-2019, 04:27 PM   #6232
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Old 09-23-2019, 05:27 PM   #6233
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Just wasted 7 days in NE Idaho bowhunting elk. I had heard that they dont bugle here but didn't believe it. Tried 2 different units and covered lots of ground. I heard one bugle, and I don't even know if it was an elk or another hunter. Every other hunter and hiker I encountered said they hadn't heard any at all.
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:57 PM   #6234
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Old 09-23-2019, 09:58 PM   #6235
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Got my bull Wednesday morning. Incredible hunt and very rewarding to get it done on public land and solo. Fought some bad rain and way too many guides that think they own the national forest. He cane in bugling and have me a 30 yard quartering too shot and I hammered him.
Way to go, Congrats!
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:13 PM   #6236
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I ended up shooting a small 6x6. Passed on 3 different 5x5's. Was in close on nice 6x6 herd bull, but he never presented a shot. We was running all over the place ****** off because there were 2 other herd bulls nearby. I was 25 yards from some of his cows and couldn't sneak in any closer and he wouldn't loop around to my side. A few times I wasn't sure if I was fixing to get plowed over the way he was running around crashing trough the brush breaking stuff.

My buddy shot one about same size. I was calling for him and the herd bull almost came into his window but turned a last moment toward his cows. My buddy could see him good at about 30 yards but no shot opportunity. While I was calling the smaller bull came into his lane. I couldn't see what was going on because I had dropped down below him to try to draw the bull out. I heard the shot hit and thought he shot the herd bull until about a minute later the herd bull bugled again.

Fun times were had.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:20 AM   #6237
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Just wasted 7 days in NE Idaho bowhunting elk. I had heard that they dont bugle here but didn't believe it. Tried 2 different units and covered lots of ground. I heard one bugle, and I don't even know if it was an elk or another hunter. Every other hunter and hiker I encountered said they hadn't heard any at all.


Just left central Idaho. It was like a sheep hunt. 7 of the 9 days it either rained, snowed or sleeted and the entire range was constantly fogged in. The two days that it cleared a bit we got into bugling bulls, one of which was a BIG bull. We got out to a ridge and bugled. All of a sudden a bugle rips behind us about a hundred yards from where we just walked through calling. I immediately knew were in trouble cause he was slightly uphill from us and the thermals were gonna get us. He was gonna have to get to 40 before my son had a shot through the trees. About 60 yards out he busted us but not before we got a glimpse. Iím
gonna put him in the 340 range. My son ended up shooting a smaller bull but lost due to very poor penetration
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:00 AM   #6238
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Old 09-24-2019, 03:06 PM   #6239
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Just got back from a 10 day hunt in NM. Hunt of a lifetime all Public DIY. 2 bulls down

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Sorry Guys. Busy Playing Catch up since I got Back Home








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Buddies First Bull. Called into 40yrds And Shot Day Three


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Packed and Headed Off the Mountain



My Bull Shot Day 10 At 4pm The Last Day of Season. Called in and Shot at 30yrds.


2nd Meat Run

Both Of Us Killed our First Bulls This Trip.


Counting the Days Till We return.........
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Old 09-24-2019, 05:50 PM   #6240
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Old 09-25-2019, 02:00 PM   #6241
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DIY public land Colorado trip with my 2 brothers and grandpa. My brother and I each got a bull and my 79 year old PawPaw got him a bear. Packing meat/horns for 5 of the 7 days hurt so good. Called mine in to 8 yards screaming his head off and got brothers in to 35 yards. Good times!
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Old 09-25-2019, 02:08 PM   #6242
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^^^^Way to go! Congrats to all of you! Enjoy that time with PawPaw! ^^^^
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Old 09-25-2019, 03:51 PM   #6243
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Man these are some great pics! It looks like TBH elk hunters are raising the archery success rate in alot of states.
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Old 09-25-2019, 04:43 PM   #6244
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Congrats Mako! That last pic is what dreams are made of.
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Old 09-25-2019, 05:41 PM   #6245
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Congrats Bo! Great bulls!
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Old 09-25-2019, 08:39 PM   #6246
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Man yíall are making this look to easy!!


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Old 09-25-2019, 09:01 PM   #6247
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While the stars haven't aligned for me to take a good bull yet, one of my dearest friends laid this one down over the weekend. I'll post better pics once I have his permission. He's been practicing and preparing for months and it paid off big. Couldn't have happened to a better guy!



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Old 09-25-2019, 09:17 PM   #6248
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While the stars haven't aligned for me to take a good bull yet, one of my dearest friends laid this one down over the weekend. I'll post better pics once I have his permission. He's been practicing and preparing for months and it paid off big. Couldn't have happened to a better guy!



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Thatís a monster. Congrats to your buddy!


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Old 09-25-2019, 09:23 PM   #6249
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While the stars haven't aligned for me to take a good bull yet, one of my dearest friends laid this one down over the weekend. I'll post better pics once I have his permission. He's been practicing and preparing for months and it paid off big. Couldn't have happened to a better guy!
Helluva Bull there, Congrats to him!
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Old 09-25-2019, 09:40 PM   #6250
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Awesome Bull. Congrats to your Buddy. His Hard work Paid off Big Time

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