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Old 12-20-2015, 03:25 PM   #101
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Here is Ryder with a big 4xl coon...

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Old 12-20-2015, 03:26 PM   #102
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How big is a 4xl tuff?
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:38 PM   #103
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How big is a 4xl tuff?
Here ya go brother..

SML- under 20"
MED- 20"-22"
LM- 22"-24"
LGE- 24"-27"
XL- 27"-29"
2XL- 29"-32"
3XL- 32"-35"
4XL- Over 35"


The one in the picture went 36.5
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:39 PM   #104
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Nose to base of tail or oal?
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Old 12-20-2015, 03:43 PM   #105
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Nose to base of tail.
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Mylanta that's a big ol coon!
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Old 12-20-2015, 04:11 PM   #107
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I had decent luck last year with a couple different baits/lures what do you guys use in dirt holes as far as baits for yotes and foxes and also cats. thanks for any input.

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Drags are my go to also, but you'd be surprised at how many times staking is the better choice, like a 4 way intersection in the middle of a cotton field, trust me following drag marks several hundred yards across a field just find out a Coyote changed its mind and went several hundred more yards to the field edge sucks, plus eats up precious time.
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This fox had made it across the pasture but hung up in the fence.
I would have turned it loose but it had broke its leg.
I'm just after the coyotes and bobcats
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Old 12-20-2015, 04:21 PM   #109
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I had decent luck last year with a couple different baits/lures what do you guys use in dirt holes as far as baits for yotes and foxes and also cats. thanks for any input.

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I have been using O Gormans paste

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Old 12-20-2015, 07:43 PM   #110
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I have been using O Gormans paste

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It's funny that's what you have been using. I have tried an tried that bait and the last coyote I caught that is the bait I used. I have been trying it for 3 years. But ogormans makes a great bait
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:09 PM   #111
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Made a few sets this weekend in freer, some foot traps and I hung some birds from a limb in hopes of catching a coyote or bobcat, drove by one yesterday and my bird had been eaten on the ground and no traps were sprung, would a cara cara do that? My other set too had its bird eaten. Thinking about hanging just a turkey feather or something like that for a coyote or bobcat? Any ideas? Also want to trap a badger, and ideas? Thanks
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Old 12-21-2015, 08:35 AM   #112
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Old 12-21-2015, 10:56 AM   #113
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Made a few sets this weekend in freer, some foot traps and I hung some birds from a limb in hopes of catching a coyote or bobcat, drove by one yesterday and my bird had been eaten on the ground and no traps were sprung, would a cara cara do that? My other set too had its bird eaten. Thinking about hanging just a turkey feather or something like that for a coyote or bobcat? Any ideas? Also want to trap a badger, and ideas? Thanks
There's no way for any of us to know! How high was bird-distance from pan-what kind of backing at set-was bird your only bait?

A bird hanging is bait not an attractor, you only want to hang an attractor to pull a cat from distance to put him in sight of and downwind to your baited set. Exposed bait such as a hanging bird, piece of meat opens an oppurtunity to catch buzzards and such.
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:22 AM   #114
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Gotcha, I hung the bird about 5 feet over the trap and I also used some coyote lure down by the traps, I
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:40 AM   #115
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Put out two sets Sat evening and had this male yote this morning...
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:44 AM   #116
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you can see in the pic why I have no problem with drags.... I do agree that sometimes staking is better because of location. Also you have a hot catch circle to reset on with stakes...
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Old 12-21-2015, 11:45 AM   #117
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I'm with you yanta the whole reason I'm sold on drags. I'll find a place to setup to use my drafs
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Old 12-21-2015, 12:37 PM   #118
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That is awesome, we used to have a place in beeville right off 59 by the media creek, used to trap tons of coons, then my grandpa sold the ranch, I wanted to commit suicide, lol
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Old 12-21-2015, 07:07 PM   #119
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Be careful with using birds for bait or attractor, don't use any songbirds and even using exotic species will attract hawks and owls.

Some of the best non-commercial bait I ever used was ground deer liver mixed with flour or egg, deer brains and egg, rotted gar meat and plain old hamburger and egg mixed to a paste.

Some of my favorite commercial baits are Mast #5 or #6, Carmen's canine call and Pro Choice. Taking the last couple inches of large intestine to the **** opening on coyotes or bobcats is great along with draining the urine out of one if possible. Using those on another tract off land where the coyote or cat wasn't caught, brings a lot of interest by those species thinking of an intruder on their home range.

Yep, I feel in love with drags when I became a government coyote trapper back in the early 80's. Sure kept the set undisturbed and the animal was able to go a ways and get hung up. That's if you had enough structure for one to do so, but sometimes you just can't figure them out. They'll take off across a pasture or field and right behind the trap site is covered with thick growth. I learned the hard way to always stake a trap unless I can hook or toss the drag into the brush and count on them being there in the morning.

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Old 12-22-2015, 09:40 AM   #120
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Which are better for coyotes, foot traps with offset jaws or traps with normal jaws? Are they both legal?
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Old 12-22-2015, 09:44 AM   #121
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They are both legal here in Tx. I use both. I like either offset or laminated regular jaws. Sometimes you can have a pull out with offset jaws, if its just a toe catch or a smaller animal like a coon.

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Old 12-22-2015, 09:46 AM   #122
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For coyotes I prefer the offset everything else regular jaws
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Old 12-22-2015, 08:58 PM   #123
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For coyotes, what type of setup do you use?

I have been using dog droppings and coyote mating scent and it seems pretty good. I thought about trying a dirt hole set.
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Old 12-22-2015, 10:10 PM   #124
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I've caught more coyotes using coyote urine and droppings an some coyote gland. But just a trick use bobcat urine for coyotes
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Old 12-23-2015, 12:00 AM   #125
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For coyotes, what type of setup do you use?

I have been using dog droppings and coyote mating scent and it seems pretty good. I thought about trying a dirt hole set.
We're coming up on breeding season for coyotes, if you want to get them stirred up, take your dog out with making sets, the alpha pair will get all stirred up and about as stupid as a coyote ever gets when they find that new dog smell in their territory. A good flat set with a good coyote gland lure seems to perk them up now also.
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Old 12-28-2015, 09:42 PM   #126
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Trapped a good tom on a buddies place. He went out hunting this evening and found this guy in one of my sets...I was surprised to catch a cat in this particular set cause it was set for Fox. I used a bone and put red fox gland on it but I'll take it. He gets pictures of Fox and coyotes every night but the are real skittish of a dirt hole set so I've gone to flat sets and scent post.

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Old 12-30-2015, 11:12 PM   #127
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Just got back from the ranch this afternoon, got down there Christmas night. Made several sets, put 4 snares in well used trails in the high fence and nothing. Found 3 old badger holes and put some dead rabbits down the holes with jaw traps set on the outside. Nothing at all, all advice on setting snares in the fence for coyotes, Bobcats, and badgers? Thanks
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Old 01-01-2016, 10:24 PM   #128
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Here is Ryder with a big 4xl coon...

That coon must weigh 20#
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Old 01-02-2016, 08:46 AM   #129
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Picked up another, this is number 7 this season. Big female
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I wished we had reds around here, we have plenty of greys..
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We caught a gray fox and a coyote in the same night this past week. I am after the coyotes and the gray fox was in a live trap so I let him go. The fox was weird compared to others I have trapped. It just hung out and didn't seem scared. He let me pet him with a stick and didn't care. Looking back, I hope it wasn't rabid. It just acted like a pet cat.

We have had no luck on dirt holes, except for rabbits. The flat traps with domestic dog droppings and coyote mating scent seems to work within 2-3 days every time.

I am only catching female coyotes, is that odd?
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We caught a gray fox and a coyote in the same night this past week. I am after the coyotes and the gray fox was in a live trap so I let him go. The fox was weird compared to others I have trapped. It just hung out and didn't seem scared. He let me pet him with a stick and didn't care. Looking back, I hope it wasn't rabid. It just acted like a pet cat.

We have had no luck on dirt holes, except for rabbits. The flat traps with domestic dog droppings and coyote mating scent seems to work within 2-3 days every time.

I am only catching female coyotes, is that odd?
I don't know if it is odd, buy I'm seeing some of the same thing. Nothing on dirt hole only flats and sent post. The last cpl I've caught have been female too
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We caught a gray fox and a coyote in the same night this past week. I am after the coyotes and the gray fox was in a live trap so I let him go. The fox was weird compared to others I have trapped. It just hung out and didn't seem scared. He let me pet him with a stick and didn't care. Looking back, I hope it wasn't rabid. It just acted like a pet cat.

We have had no luck on dirt holes, except for rabbits. The flat traps with domestic dog droppings and coyote mating scent seems to work within 2-3 days every time.

I am only catching female coyotes, is that odd?
No I saw that as well when I was trapping more. It seemed to come in spurts I would catch a bunch of males then all of a sudden all I would catch is female is weird
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Picked up another yote today but when I checked my next set which was a sent post, I was in for a surprise. A yote had dug up the piece of wood I was using for the post and carried it off. I have never even heard of this happening.
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I always used bobcat urine on all my sets. Scent posts at crossroads or trails did well too. Also had good luck burying a small piece of skunk hide with just a little bit showing on dirt piles. Had some luck with dirt holes using rotten rabbit as bait. Main thing is to keep your set human scent free
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We caught a gray fox and a coyote in the same night this past week. I am after the coyotes and the gray fox was in a live trap so I let him go. The fox was weird compared to others I have trapped. It just hung out and didn't seem scared. He let me pet him with a stick and didn't care. Looking back, I hope it wasn't rabid. It just acted like a pet cat.

We have had no luck on dirt holes, except for rabbits. The flat traps with domestic dog droppings and coyote mating scent seems to work within 2-3 days every time.

I am only catching female coyotes, is that odd?

That is all I caught last year, females (all 4 of them)

I thought it was odd on but on the other hand that is 4 litters that never got dropped the way I see it.

Been too busy or gone to set any yet this year
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I always used bobcat urine on all my sets. Scent posts at crossroads or trails did well too. Also had good luck burying a small piece of skunk hide with just a little bit showing on dirt piles. Had some luck with dirt holes using rotten rabbit as bait. Main thing is to keep your set human scent free
I have always heard to be scent free and it makes sense, but I am not even close to scent free. I touch everything bare handed, kneel in the dirt with regular washed jeans, throw my jacket on the ground when I get hot and they are still coming. I have noticed it usually takes 2-3 days after I set it up to catch one. Maybe that is how long it takes for most of my scent to go away. That means tonight I should catch one or at least miss one (I do that some).
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Human scent is going to be there no matter what you do, and they know you where there even if you are scent free! You are going to still catch them if they want to get whatever bait or scent you leave for them! That said I don't get to carried away with scent just try to keep it to a minimum! JMO!

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Yep "scent free" just ain't gonna happen, most of the old timers were extremely meticulous about it, then someone would come along using bare hands wearing the same clothes they wore in the oilfield and catch just as much. Coyotes have a deeply ingrained fear and ability to pick up on anything new or out of place, leave your sets as close to the way it was before you showed up will help a lot in speeding up your visit time.
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How do you keep mud from betting under the pan when it rains? I put something over the pan and dust it with dry dirt to hide the trap, but after it rains sometimes I end up with mud under the pan. After the last rain, I caught one coyote, but I couldn't get one trap to close because too much mud ran under the pan.
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Old 01-07-2016, 08:38 AM   #142
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It depends on the set location, you have to prepare for rain before you set your trap, if you set where water drains from a roadway, your going to be washed out or buried in mud. If you make a set on top of a diversion berm probably not going to have any problem. Before you make your set just get in the habit of assessing water drainage for that set. For a light rain you can dig your trap bed a little deeper and bed your trap in peat moss. Clint Locklear has some good tips for handling rain at a set on his videos also.
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Now that deer season is over for us, we will be trying to get back after the coons again. We have a few coyotes making a regular presence through our place, so I may pick up a trap or too and give that a shot. We have quite a few coons around us but none of them are all that big, so don't think I want to take that any further than just trapping to keep them out of the corn/protein. I may see about skinning out a couple coons just for the sake of trying it and to say I did it.

On the topic of coyotes, this past weekend at the ranch I saw one 3 different sits while in the stand. Passing through one direction or the other. He stayed in the thicker stuff so I never got a shot. However him and I did have a very close encounter one morning. It was Friday morning and was about 10:15am or so and I decided to go back to the house and get a bite to eat. I climbed out of the box blind and walked about 40 yards or so to a camera I have set on a trail. I get right up behind the camera and hear something coming. I didn't know what it was until it was about 15 yards from me and cleared some brush. That coyote came almost right to me before he saw me. He couldn't have been more than maybe 20 ft from me at most, more like 10-15 ft. He stopped and looked towards my feet and slowly followed my legs up until he saw my face and then he ducked his head hard and took off. He went into more thick stuff just as I got the bead on him with my 30-30. He came through again the next day, but used a trailer about 50 yards east of where we met. Real healthy dog. Very poofy coat and tail, lots of white in his color mixed with some grey. Almost reminds me more of the look of a small wolf than a coyote. Hard to guess weight with that thick coat, but I would guess he was probably pushing 50lbs. Similar in size to my labs.
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How do you keep mud from betting under the pan when it rains? I put something over the pan and dust it with dry dirt to hide the trap, but after it rains sometimes I end up with mud under the pan. After the last rain, I caught one coyote, but I couldn't get one trap to close because too much mud ran under the pan.
I bought a cheap pillow from the dollar store and cut it and started using the stuffing. Take a small amount of the fiber stuffing and stick under the pan, it won't keep pan from working but will keep dirt and mud out from under pan.

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I bought a cheap pillow from the dollar store and cut it and started using the stuffing. Take a small amount of the fiber stuffing and stick under the pan, it won't keep pan from working but will keep dirt and mud out from under pan.

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I buy pre cut pads that go under the pads.
They have worked very well. It has rained ever couple of days and I'm still catching.

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You can go to the craft section of Wal-Mart an buy chair cushion foam it's 1" thick works great I bought some 4 years ago and still have some.
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I use cut pads also with my MB 650's and they work well
This is number 9 yote so far
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I need advice.

I just checked my traps. I am using flat traps with dog droppings and coyote mating scent. This has been working. Two of the traps have fresh from last night coyote droppings 6 and 10 feet away from them. Do I leave my set alone? Do I put a set on the coyote droppings? Do I move the coyote droppings to my set? Or do I do something else?
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I would rebait your trap with fresh as you have male coyote urine try that
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Old 01-09-2016, 10:11 AM   #150
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Brother in law said he threw the rope out there and the coyote ran right into it this morning!
Once I was out on horseback with my cousin bringing the cows in and he took off running and said he was gonna try to rope a coyote he saw. I thought he was just pulling my leg cause I never saw the yote. Good to see this pic!
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