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Old 07-03-2014, 12:23 PM   #51
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Ok guys, I was curious about our State trappers assoc. so I sent them a quick email asking a few viable questions..



The email speaks for its self.. and I will keep everyone up dated..







Dale Love <mrdalelove@gmail.com>

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Jordan, my name is Dale , I have trapped for many years and ran everything from long lines to ADC work in Oklahoma and Texas, and trapping is a passion and way of life that I want to pass along to my children and onto theirs..as well as others that are interested in trapping.





I have looked into joining your organization and before I commit I would like to ask a few questions.



The first thing that I noticed is the website is not kept up to date some updates are from 2009 and nothing newer.





Were will me dues be utilized?



Does the State association represent us at a state level to protect and watch out for our rich history and tradition of trapping?



I want to know that my dues and my time spent representing this organization will be beneficial to our State trappers .

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I'd like to know as well
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Old 07-03-2014, 01:31 PM   #52
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most of the time I just run the drag off to the side and only bury the chain.... The ground around here is rock hard caliche and if I was ever able to get a stake in, I wouldn't ever be able to get it back out. I like how easy and quick it is to set a trap with a drag. The brush is so thick around here that most of the time they don't get 5-10' from the trap bed.



one tip is angled down and one up....

Lol not here I have tracked a coyote over 200 yards with a drag an 10' of chain. Glad I had dogs
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:23 PM   #53
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Can't believe I just found this. I should be pretty busy trapping this year myself. I need to dig out all my stuff and inventory what I got.
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Old 07-03-2014, 03:32 PM   #54
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Super easy to set (especially for kids) and the design is bullet proof.




We ran 36 of these traps for a 6 day period last year and brought in 66 coons that we kept and released quite a few that were not big enough yet.

Is the tension less than the Duke traps? My older neighbor is having trouble setting his Dukes. Says Arthritis is kicking his butt.
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Is the tension less than the Duke traps? My older neighbor is having trouble setting his Dukes. Says Arthritis is kicking his butt.
The tension is about the same, but the cool thing with these is you can just step on them with your foot to set them (hear a click) if you don't have the strength to squeeze them brother..
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Old 07-04-2014, 07:44 PM   #56
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Here are two types of snares I use. One is cheap and easy and the other is a little more complex to build but work a lot better. second pic is close to 125 snares. I need to get some more built.
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Picked these up for free from a guy that no longer traps. 3-#2 and 6-#1 1/2
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Old 07-05-2014, 03:39 AM   #58
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Score!
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Got my first coon yesterday.
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Congrats! Always exciting checking a trapline
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Got another today. Have 3 traps set but only one is producing. Had coons all over one feeder for months and now they won't even show up since I set the traps.

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My son got his 1st coon with his Z traps this weekend. He was grinning from ear to ear. LOL! Funny thing is he set some by the protein feeder & none even payed attention to them. Hopefully he finds the right bait on the next trip.
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Way to go guys!!! Congrats on the catches!


Whirwind, congrats on the traps brother, and those snares with the spring loaded cams work great , the ones I have used have the QK cams but are not spring backed
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Headed out to the shop after more coffee to make some DP anchors and tune the remainder of my traps.

Anyone that needs a few DP anchors or pointers is welcome to come out..
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I'm just trying to get my fur shed cleaned out lol
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Lol...I wish I had to clean mine out...m

I have to build it!!!
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Just butchered and froze two axis bucks and kept a giant bag full of fat and scraps to bait with this coming season for coyote sets.

Any tips from you guys on using deer meat to trap?

When to use it? What gland/urine/bait (if any) to use it with
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Just butchered and froze two axis bucks and kept a giant bag full of fat and scraps to bait with this coming season for coyote sets.

Any tips from you guys on using deer meat to trap?

When to use it? What gland/urine/bait (if any) to use it with

That's a good question brother, but if you intend on using it this season you had better get to work on it NOW!!

But in honest your question is over my head when it comes to mixing gland and urines..

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Everything you ever wanted to know about making baits!!

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbt..._Urine_Archive
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Hey tuff, what are the rules and regs on trapping a river? I think I can get access to a couple spots down here on the brazos but was just curious on what I'd need.
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Hey tuff, what are the rules and regs on trapping a river? I think I can get access to a couple spots down here on the brazos but was just curious on what I'd need.
You will have to find a public access point or permission fro a property owner with river frontage.

The legal aspects will vary from Warden to warden but the law states the water is completely legal, and 50% of the gradient is also legal.

What that means, you have the existing water line and the normal high water line(Were vegetation begins to grow) so draw a imaginary line at 50% of that and its public property also..what that gives you is a few feet of bank on each side to set..

SOME people want to believe it is the Historical High water erosion line or the upper most bank, I would love that if it was true but I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt my 3 area wardens will give you the 50% gradient rule as I described above.

Its a fine line and its best to use discretion to stay in good graces with your wardens and land owners.

My advice is pick a place that you want to trap and then find the warden that is working the area and speak with him about it and get his definition..


Your Warden for Washington county is Edward R Hines, and his contact info is 979-412-3140

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That's a good question brother, but if you intend on using it this season you had better get to work on it NOW!!

But in honest your question is over my head when it comes to mixing gland and urines..

So I give you this!!

Everything you ever wanted to know about making baits!!

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbt..._Urine_Archive
Thank you sir. I guess the question I should have asked is: Is it worth my time to use deer meat to toss in dirt hole sets as bait? And should I add a bit of coyote urine to the backing/set? That is how I was thinking about going about it.
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You will have to find a public access point or permission fro a property owner with river frontage.



The legal aspects will vary from Warden to warden but the law states the water is completely legal, and 50% of the gradient is also legal.



What that means, you have the existing water line and the normal high water line(Were vegetation begins to grow) so draw a imaginary line at 50% of that and its public property also..what that gives you is a few feet of bank on each side to set..



SOME people want to believe it is the Historical High water erosion line or the upper most bank, I would love that if it was true but I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt my 3 area wardens will give you the 50% gradient rule as I described above.



Its a fine line and its best to use discretion to stay in good graces with your wardens and land owners.



My advice is pick a place that you want to trap and then find the warden that is working the area and speak with him about it and get his definition..





Your Warden for Washington county is Edward R Hines, and his contact info is 979-412-3140

Perfect. Thanks a lot man
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Thank you sir. I guess the question I should have asked is: Is it worth my time to use deer meat to toss in dirt hole sets as bait? And should I add a bit of coyote urine to the backing/set? That is how I was thinking about going about it.
I'm going to regret this but here it goes.

Here is what I use a lot once season gets rolling Tainted Beaver meat

But you can use all kinds of meat.

I use a gallon jar and cube up the meat to small 1 inch pieces and add it into the jar with just enough water to cover it, then add the lid and let it rot just enough to were it starts to turn whiteish. Then I mix in the sodium benzoate to stop the rotting process (must add enough to coat all the meat) I also tend to add just enough beaver castor to give it a hint of castor smell.

Then I put the lid back on and begin to use it for bait, some skunk essence really is another great additive also..

As far as urine, I use a shot or two of it on every set, whether its coyote urine, fox or bobcat..
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I'm going to regret this but here it goes...
What is there to regret? Is it that Mr. Love likes tainted beaver?


I ground up about 2 gallons of bobcat meat and let it taint for about 3 days. Then I added some Dobbins bait solution and it should be nice and ready for this year’s season....

I wouldn't throw out the deer if you already had it frozen....If you have a trail camera set it up over a fake dirt hole and put a chunk of the axis down the hole and see what happens.

last year i caught 2 coyotes in dirt hole sets with nothing else but a rabbit leg.
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Thanks both for the responses, I appreciate it greatly.

Yanta, are you saying you would not use the deer meat if it has been frozen already?

I also kept the deer quarters on ice to bleed for several days before butchering, so that is another (negative?) factor to keep in mind.
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No, I was saying that if you already have it you might as well try it. I've never used axis but I'm betting it will work.
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No, I was saying that if you already have it you might as well try it. I've never used axis but I'm betting it will work.
Gotcha Thanks for clarifying.

Saw this on FB today, thought it may be helpful to some. Doesn't have all the fur-bearers tracks, but a good amount

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LOL That just reminds me how much I hate Mink!!!!!

On a few sections of the river last year they robbed the hell out of my DP bait..

Nothing like a 20 trap run with all the bait missing.. same run three days in a row..

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Are mink worth trapping?
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Are mink worth trapping?
wild mink brought 10.00 each on a good day...

I did not see what wild mink brought on the last sale..

Looks like at NAFA they were 15.66 on the low and 26.00 on the high with a low clearance ratio




I can see the end of the pile....6 more FB1's to tune and 12 Bridger/Conibear 330's and the traps are ready to rock...

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Just butchered and froze two axis bucks and kept a giant bag full of fat and scraps to bait with this coming season for coyote sets.

Any tips from you guys on using deer meat to trap?

When to use it? What gland/urine/bait (if any) to use it with

To tell you the truth I never had any luck using deer meat at my yote sets. At least in my part of the world
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Tuff the beaver meat is no secret. That's what I use in Idaho. Except for some secret ingredients and the way it looks.
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Tuff the beaver meat is no secret. That's what I use in Idaho. Except for some secret ingredients and the way it looks.
Just took a peek at a Idaho Non resident trapping license, 301 and change is not to bad..
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To tell you the truth I never had any luck using deer meat at my yote sets. At least in my part of the world
There is a heavy population where we trap so hopefully there will be some takes. Trail cams will have to be set as well
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Anybody know any good areas to trap in Katy?
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What a day, its hot as heck in the shop...

Converted 2 dozen Sleepycreeks from standard flat dogs to PIT rod dogs with a SWEET night latch..

Finished and rechecked all 4 dozen FB1's

Made a 1 dozen DP anchors..


There is no way I'm going to fight those Bridger 330's without a setter..those will have to wait till I order one..

Tomorrow I'm going to make up some Birkshires from scratch to have about 6 extra for season..

And what ever else pops into my mind..
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Anybody know any good areas to trap in Katy?
Just to the west of town you have the Brazos river..
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Just stopped by and saw Nathan at Buckstop this afternoon
Picked up 5 of the FB1 traps to help reduce the coon population at the deer lease

Nathan had a bunch of traps in stock, so stop by and see him

And thanks to the guys that contribute to this (and last years) thread
I'm learning a lot of great knowledge
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Just stopped by and saw Nathan at Buckstop this afternoon
Picked up 5 of the FB1 traps to help reduce the coon population at the deer lease

Nathan had a bunch of traps in stock, so stop by and see him

And thanks to the guys that contribute to this (and last years) thread
I'm learning a lot of great knowledge
Nate is a GREAT guy when I need to order new traps he is THE MAN!!

He has bought some great lures and baits.....he has to hide them in a cooler to keep the smell down in the shop,
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Just took a peek at a Idaho Non resident trapping license, 301 and change is not to bad..

Let me know when your coming up. Defiantly make more on furs up here.
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Let me know when your coming up. Defiantly make more on furs up here.
I wished I could, but my gas money would eat me alive!!

I have a huge amount of land in Oklahoma to trap and a free place to stay and its 345.00 for a NR trappers license..

My whole problem is time ...there is never enough time especially with my trapping lines here in Texas.

Thinking about tossing the idea to a couple of shows and see what happens..
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I wished I could, but my gas money would eat me alive!!



I have a huge amount of land in Oklahoma to trap and a free place to stay and its 345.00 for a NR trappers license..



My whole problem is time ...there is never enough time especially with my trapping lines here in Texas.



Thinking about tossing the idea to a couple of shows and see what happens..

That would be cool. It's not worth getting a non res license in another state bc they limit what you can trap as far as cats.
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There is a heavy population where we trap so hopefully there will be some takes. Trail cams will have to be set as well

Let me know if it does
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That would be cool. It's not worth getting a non res license in another state bc they limit what you can trap as far as cats.
Never heard of that, here is what Oklahoma regs are:

A nonresident fur license(bobcat-raccoon-river otter-gray/red fox license) is required for all persons who take these species by any means (trapping, firearms or archery). Such license is valid Dec. 1, 2013-Feb. 28, 2014

Dates & Open Areas
Dec. 1, 2013-Feb. 28, 2014; statewide.

Limits
•Bobcat:No daily limit, season limit 20, possession limit 20 per license.
•Gray Fox / Red Foxaily combined limit two, with no more than one red fox. Season combined limit six, with no more than two red fox.
•Raccoon: Daily limit 10, season limit 40, possession limit 40 per license.
•Other species: No limit


Now that I did my Oklahoma homework, it is not worth going up there to trap unless its a bobcat, coyote line. I would reach my season limit in coons the first 4 days!!!
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Yeah see if I was to trap out in say Nevada or Utah my cat limit is 5. Though I can trap as many other animals as I want though. It's not worth it when I have lines going up here and the travel it would take to check those too. In Idaho we can only take 2 otters but there are no set limits on anything else. Just no trapping of wolverines or lynx. I may go after coons this year if I can touch base with this guy that will buy them whole.
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Just to the west of town you have the Brazos river..
Can I walk it or do I have to use a boat
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Can I walk it or do I have to use a boat
You could park at one of the bridges and walk or use a boat, I use a 17ft Coleman canoe with a trolling motor setup on it..

But before I got the boat I set the river by doing a TON of walking for miles..

I posted river information up above for another trapper, you might want to review that for the legal aspect of trapping the river.
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Old 07-09-2014, 12:52 PM   #99
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He has bought some great lures and baits.....he has to hide them in a cooler to keep the smell down in the shop,
That is great to know that he has lure/bait also. I plan to get some closer to when I am ready to trap...... And no reason to stink up the house

I saw a couple other things when I was walking out that I need to get the next time I am in there
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Old 07-09-2014, 01:36 PM   #100
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Thanks tuff, do you know anywhere to get traps in Katy I'm gonna try to get more
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