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Old 08-16-2018, 02:33 PM   #1
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I was at academy yesterday buying my license and stocking up on shells and the thought crossed my mind of upgrading from the Remington 870 Iíve been shooting for the better part of the last decade.

Does anyone in the green screen have any suggestions or advice? Iím open to pumps and semi autos. I handled the ATA Venza but know nothing about the company other than what a cursory google search told me. Iím 6í9 300 lbs so fun size and weight arenít a huge deal to me.

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Old 08-16-2018, 02:35 PM   #2
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Pump or semi auto?
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:41 PM   #3
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I have a Stoeger 3500. It's been super reliable, and didn't break the bank either.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:42 PM   #4
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I have a Stoeger 3500. It's been super reliable, and didn't break the bank either.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:43 PM   #5
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:43 PM   #6
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If you are killing ducks with the 870...why change. My 870 is 20 years old and my Benelli Nova pump is 10 years old. both can rust rot corrode or even get lost in the marsh cause they were cheap and have already killed a ton of ducks.

That said, Last year I bought a Barrette 300 for $600. It was on sale at Outdoor World. Only reason I got it was due to being 65 and have a recent back injury. The lighter recoil and no need to pump make life easier on those mornings when I am hurting.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:46 PM   #7
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I really like my H & R Excell Auto, 12 ga. Doesn't break the bank and performs flawlessly, recoil is less than my Rem. 1100
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:48 PM   #8
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I shot my 870 for the longest time till I bought my beretta a400 2 years ago and it was one of the best purchases I've made hunting wise.

That being said, I'm not sure what your budget is but the beretta a300 and a350 are about as good as you can get for under 1k

The stoger m3000 and m3500 are solid as well and you can probably find them for under $700
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:52 PM   #9
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for the budget minded and if you want a gun that you can pass down to kids you cant go wrong with a Rem 870.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:56 PM   #10
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I was at academy yesterday buying my license and stocking up on shells and the thought crossed my mind of upgrading from the Remington 870 Iíve been shooting for the better part of the last decade.

Does anyone in the green screen have any suggestions or advice? Iím open to pumps and semi autos. I handled the ATA Venza but know nothing about the company other than what a cursory google search told me. Iím 6í9 300 lbs so fun size and weight arenít a huge deal to me.

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I think what you're asking is what can you step up to from the 870 and not break the bank.

In the semi-auto go check out Weatherby's new inertia gun.

Or go with a Beretta Outlander 300 or Winchester SX4.


As for pumps, stick with your 870 if its working.

If you just want new, check out Winchester's SXP or the Bellini Nova
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:58 PM   #11
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I've been shooting a Benelli Nova for years, been a great gun and won't break the bank. Plus it can take some abuse as well and not show it.
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Old 08-16-2018, 02:59 PM   #12
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The 870 is the best pump ever in production more than likely.

If you are wanting to upgrade, I would go with a Beretta A300 Outlander. For the price, probably one of the best Autos in a auto entry price point. They can be found for around $700-$800.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:02 PM   #13
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Another vote for the A300
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:13 PM   #14
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I would just get another 870 if you're just wanting something new.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #15
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Quality has gone down a lot on the Remington 870 in my opinion. For a new pump, I'd take a nova.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:22 PM   #16
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Go semi auto, can't burn through shells as fast with a pump......
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:28 PM   #17
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870 pump...go ahead and close the thread down. That's kind of like dropping the mike...right?
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:30 PM   #18
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Everyone saying 870 must not have experience with a newer one.

The one I was given 15 years ago sucks. If it wasn't a gift from my step dad it'd be long gone.

On occasion the pawn shops in San Marcos will have a wingmaster for sale. I'd buy a wingmaster if I had to have an 870.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:31 PM   #19
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I never shot my 870 well. About 10 years ago I bought an old Nova off TBH from a guy on the coast with the choke tube rusted stuck in it. I can shoot the hell out of that gun and I treat it like crap and it just keeps shooting.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:38 PM   #20
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Everyone saying 870 must not have experience with a newer one.

The one I was given 15 years ago sucks. If it wasn't a gift from my step dad it'd be long gone.

On occasion the pawn shops in San Marcos will have a wingmaster for sale. I'd buy a wingmaster if I had to have an 870.

All mine are Wingmasters and they are old. I have not shot a new 870 and if the quality is down I wouldn't know it. I do have a buddy who loves his NOVA but I would like that is a budget gun. With that said I am no help - carry on
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:38 PM   #21
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My 870 is weird. My dad bought it for me 25 years ago, or so. In my hands, sometimes when I pull trigger it doesn't release the pump to work. It irks the heck out of me. When I've loaned it to or let other people shoot it, it performs flawlessly. I don't get it. I'd imagine it's in the way I'm bracing the shotgun when I shoot but who knows.

I ended up grabbing an 1187 3-4 years ago. It's heavy, but works so far.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:42 PM   #22
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Your shootin the best budget duck gun you can get. Old sayin goes If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:48 PM   #23
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You already have the best budget duck gun.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:49 PM   #24
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If you decide to get a Benelli Nova, let me know. I have two in the safe that I no longer shoot (small hand syndrome) and would part with.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:51 PM   #25
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I have a Stoeger 3500. It's been super reliable, and didn't break the bank either.


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Old 08-16-2018, 04:20 PM   #26
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Best budget semi auto: Beretta A300

Best budget pump: Rem 870 or Ben Nova

Stoeger = fancy boat paddle! Yes they are made by Benelli, but the quality is far from that of a Benelli or even a Franchi.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:29 PM   #27
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Stoeger for semi auto - ran one for 10 years no issues. Shoot the Benelli SBEII now

Benelli Super Nova for a pump - I've seen these guns get beat to all get out and still function with no issues
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:31 PM   #28
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If I could find a 870 20 ga wingmaster with the 28 in fixed modified choke I would by it . Hard to find. Great gun
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:33 PM   #29
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IMO it depends on where your hunting as to a auto or pump. I hunted salt marshes a lot along the coat so I went with the Benellie Super Nova pump. Believe me that gun will take a beating and keep killing birds. Its super easy to break down in the field and put it all back together quickly if something goes wrong. And many times it did lol, at one point i fell and the gun broke my fall in a foot of mud and foot of salt water. Picked it up, poured the water out the barrel and limited out 30 min later, talk about super reliable. I just broke it down and cleaned it good after each hunt and its still going strong 10 yrs later!
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:37 PM   #30
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Remington 11-87 is a good semi-auto if you don’t mind a little weight. Not a big deal in a duck gun.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:41 PM   #31
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What is your max price? Can not go wrong with your 870, but if you have a 500-1000 budget there are alot of good guns around that price. Bought a Brand new Winchester SX4 for under $600 brand new. Great gun and great price.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:47 PM   #32
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If you decide to get a Benelli Nova, let me know. I have two in the safe that I no longer shoot (small hand syndrome) and would part with.
don't want to jump ahead of anybody, but I have a friend looking for one. pm me what you have if still available.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:52 PM   #33
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:07 PM   #34
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Are you just looking for best gun for the $? Or best pump gun for the $?

If we are counting pennies, I'd find a used Rem 870 (older generation). True bluing and solid feel. If you can get a older Mossberg 500 for $150 or less, that's a good value too.

If you're looking to get a great pump (which I recommend vs a auto for a novice), I think the Nova is a good upgrade in the pump discussion. Easy to action and easier to clean than an auto for beginners.
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:29 PM   #35
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For some clarification. I love my current 870
And have no problems killing birds with it. Iím just looking to upgrade into something a little nicer thatís stock wonít swell up every time I take it out in rough weather.


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Old 08-16-2018, 05:33 PM   #36
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The older wingmasters are the best value in a pump IMO. I've been carrying one in the marsh for the last couple years. This year I decided I wanted an A300. I like it and as far as autos go it was relatively inexpensive. The wingmaster isn't going anywhere though. Have you considered just putting a set of synthetic stocks on your 870? They are usually around $100 for remington ones.

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Old 08-16-2018, 05:34 PM   #37
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best "budget" duck gun is the paid for Remington 870 that you already have
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Old 08-16-2018, 05:37 PM   #38
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For some clarification. I love my current 870
And have no problems killing birds with it. Iím just looking to upgrade into something a little nicer thatís stock wonít swell up every time I take it out in rough weather.


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Buy some plastic furniture and get at it
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:08 PM   #39
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Quality has gone down a lot on the Remington 870 in my opinion. For a new pump, I'd take a nova.
Yep, I used a new 870 once and the extractor or what ever is pressed into the side of the receiver, came out and isnít worth fixing. Wonít buy another 870. My next will be a Berreta
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Old 08-16-2018, 06:25 PM   #40
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Most guns will shoot well if you spend the time patterning them, finding chokes that work, and put your range time in. A lot of the guns in this thread have solid reputations.

I haven't shot some of the others mentioned, but I can speak to my experience with the Stoeger 3500. I'm not gentle on gear by any stretch and this gun has done everything I've ever needed it to. Been everywhere from dipped in saltwater to fully submerged in muddy marshes to Lubbock sandstorms and it just keeps hammering.

One of the main guys I hunt with runs his in his boat (in the bay) without a case or anything. It's been soaking wet in saltwater, used as an anchor, and a walking stick to get out of soul-sucking mud. I actually bought mine after watching him abuse his for a whole season. None of these are the primary uses for the gun, but duck hunting happens, and I've never worried about babying it of it was going to fire the next time I pulled the trigger. It comes with a few chokes and a recoil reducer out of the box. Strongly recommend installing the reducer as it helps a ton, especially when you're throwing bigger loads at bigger birds.

Good luck with your choice
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:18 PM   #41
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Beretta A300, you won’t regret it.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:35 PM   #42
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I bought a Beretta 390 silver mallard 7 or 8 years ago off texasgunbroker. I have nicer and newer but that is my go to gun and it just flat runs. I stopped counting rounds after I ran 3,000 through it. If you can find one online Iíd highly recommend going that route.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:45 PM   #43
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:29 PM   #44
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Quality has gone down a lot on the Remington 870 in my opinion. For a new pump, I'd take a nova.
Disappointing but true.

Biggest issue is jammed shells.

Here is the fix

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Old 08-16-2018, 08:38 PM   #45
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Buy you a stoeger 3500. Take it apart and clean all the grease they jam into it. I promise you it'll out perform its counter parts in its price range.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:10 PM   #46
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Disappointing but true.

Biggest issue is jammed shells.

Here is the fix

- YouTube
I did this awhile back. So far so good.
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