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Old 06-12-2018, 09:44 PM   #1
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Default Legal trailer weight/ 3/4 ton Truck TX??

How much weight can I legally haul on a trailer in Tx?
I have a regular class C license (actually I have a class B and M, but I know those don't help me with the trailer).
My truck is a 3/4 ton.
Assuming that I am not putting more weight on the trailer than it is rated for.
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Old 06-12-2018, 09:58 PM   #2
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Depends on your truck. Each is rated differently. Each hitch is rated differently. You have to stay with payload capacity of your truck, trucks tow rating, and trailer ratings all at the same time. Payload is usually your limiting factor. They’ll also be rated differently for goosenecks and bumper pull.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:03 PM   #3
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It's a 2001 Chevy duramax and allison.
Gooseneck trailer.
Where do I find that info?
Yeah, friend of mine got a ticket because everything didn't "match" up.
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With that license, Gross weight of 26,000lb and below.
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:40 PM   #5
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With that license, Gross weight of 26,000lb and below.
That's what I thought, but the reg. states farm trailer.
Was just making sure the trailer doesnít have to have farm plates??
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That's what I thought, but the reg. states farm trailer.
Was just making sure the trailer doesnít have to have farm plates??
Can you post what your referring to?
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Old 06-12-2018, 10:51 PM   #7
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To the best of my knowledge the old farm exemptions are gone. Anything in combination needs to be under the 26k mark. If you are worried about a DOT inspection I'd make sure you are legal on your axles and tire weight ratings too. I've gotten that ticket before...
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Can you post what your referring to?
Oops, nevermind that was under the class b.
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:19 PM   #9
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To the best of my knowledge the old farm exemptions are gone. Anything in combination needs to be under the 26k mark. If you are worried about a DOT inspection I'd make sure you are legal on your axles and tire weight ratings too. I've gotten that ticket before...
I'm worried about a DPS trooper inspection.
From what I have found my truck can legally only pull 15,000 lbs.

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For you, u have to go by the gross the truck and trailer are allowed to haul total. Dont fo by your class b because your rig isnt allowed to haul that much weight. If u over load it and get stopped by a trooper, he will have a field day with u.
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If it was a Dodge what ever you want because they only pull ghost Trailers.
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It's a 2001 Chevy duramax and allison.
Gooseneck trailer.
Where do I find that info?
Yeah, friend of mine got a ticket because everything didn't "match" up.
Every truck is different based on configuration, even when the same models. Iíve heard mentioned that a dealer can look it up by VIN, but Iím not sure how accurate that is. My first spot to check would be the inside of the door panel. It will have payload capacity for sure, but not sure if itíll have trailer weight.
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I'm worried about a DPS trooper inspection.
From what I have found my truck can legally only pull 15,000 lbs.
That seems a little optimistic for an 01 2500. It may be correct, but I really wouldnít expect more than 13,000. Iíd be sure to find out before pushing it.
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:39 AM   #14
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this thread got me thinking about the travel trailer in the classifieds. It's just ridiculous that anybody can pull around 20,000lb travel trailers with a very high profile, yet we have to sweat what size trailer we can pull, even empty, behind our pickups without a CDL......they must have one heck of a lobby........
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:33 AM   #15
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Look inside your driver side door panel. There should be a sticker for your specific truck configuration showing gross vehicle weight. For your truck, I'd venture to say your max trailer weight is going to be somewhere around 11 to 13000 lb.

What is utterly ridiculous is American Tax paying citizens getting tickets for being slightly overweight yet I constantly see Mexicans that are Towing 2 vehicles behind a minivan, all of which they just bought at auction. I'd like to know how many of them get stopped by DPS.
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Look inside your driver side door panel. There should be a sticker for your specific truck configuration showing gross vehicle weight. For your truck, I'd venture to say your max trailer weight is going to be somewhere around 11 to 13000 lb.

What is utterly ridiculous is American Tax paying citizens getting tickets for being slightly overweight yet I constantly see Mexicans that are Towing 2 vehicles behind a minivan, all of which they just bought at auction. I'd like to know how many of them get stopped by DPS.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:00 AM   #17
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Going through something similar myself. I work in Oklahoma so have to go by federal interstate regulations of staying below 10,001 lbs of GCVR before needing usdot #'s and the works. I'm thinking of just downsizing truck and trailer to stay under the number.
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Going through something similar myself. I work in Oklahoma so have to go by federal interstate regulations of staying below 10,001 lbs of GCVR before needing usdot #'s and the works. I'm thinking of just downsizing truck and trailer to stay under the number.
Where do you find this? My truck is right at 9000 lbs with just me in it, and both tanks full of diesel. Throw a cab load of grown men in it, and I’m already pushing 10,000 lbs before I hitch on my 10k-13k gooseneck. There’s usually 4 of us once we start crossing state lines in it, and I’m pushing every bit of my GCVR, and have to load most of our gear on the trailer to stay within limits.

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Old 06-13-2018, 07:38 AM   #19
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My understanding is you must stay under the GCVWR of truck and trailer addeded together. The GCVWR of truck is on door and the trailer GCVWR will be on the trailer. add those two numbers up and stay under that number
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:54 AM   #20
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Where do you find this? My truck is right at 9000 lbs with just me in it, and both tanks full of diesel. Throw a cab load of grown men in it, and Iím already pushing 10,000 lbs before I hitch on my 10k-13k gooseneck. Thereís usually 4 of us once we start crossing state lines in it, and Iím pushing every bit of my GCVR, and have to load most of our gear on the trailer to stay within limits.
Door of the truck. My '17 Duramax is 10000 by itself, my '09 Tundra is 7100. The tandem trailer I pull is 7000 lbs. That puts my lightest set-up at 14100 combined. I could get away with a single axle enclosed trailer of about 3200 gvwr and probably go to a tacoma at 5600 gvwr for a combined weight under the limit. Its gonna suck but I can do it. I don't tow a trailer the 220 mile daily round trip, I have a shop up there I keep the trailer in so I only tow about 20 miles a day, unless I have to bring the trailer home for local work. Got popped by Oklahoma State Trooper last Monday because of my Texas Tags and towing my trailer. He gave me a trailer safety inspection. I was in my Duramax and was at 17000 lbs. I got violations for no usdot #, no fire extinguisher, no safety cones, no driver health card, and no displayed usdot #.
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What kind of trailer and what are you trying to tow and how often?
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:00 AM   #22
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As far as license goes.... as long as the truck and trailer GVWR when added together equals less than 26,001 lbs and the trailer weighs more than 10,000 lbs you're good to go...

Weight wise... The truck GVWR and GAWR can not be exceeded... very possible with a large trailer..

These are two entirely different things.. look at the sticker on your driver's door post for the GVWR and then check your registration for licensed GWVR... they are not mutually inclusive..

Example.. When I bought my last dually.. the legal GVWR is 14,000 lbs... However the dealer decided to register it for 9600 GVWR... big problem when I drop my 2800 lbs of pin weight on the 5th wheel..

Note this is for personal use... Non-Commercial only...
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Door of the truck. My '17 Duramax is 10000 by itself, my '09 Tundra is 7100. The tandem trailer I pull is 7000 lbs. That puts my lightest set-up at 14100 combined. I could get away with a single axle enclosed trailer of about 3200 gvwr and probably go to a tacoma at 5600 gvwr for a combined weight under the limit. Its gonna suck but I can do it. I don't tow a trailer the 220 mile daily round trip, I have a shop up there I keep the trailer in so I only tow about 20 miles a day, unless I have to bring the trailer home for local work. Got popped by Oklahoma State Trooper last Monday because of my Texas Tags and towing my trailer. He gave me a trailer safety inspection. I was in my Duramax and was at 17000 lbs. I got violations for no usdot #, no fire extinguisher, no safety cones, no driver health card, and no displayed usdot #.
If that’s the case I’ll take the ticket if it comes. I’m not getting a DOT#, and when I start crossing state lines I’m usually in the 21-24k range. I tend to stay out of OK, but NM, CO, UT, AZ, ID, MT, and WY are normal for me. Haven’t had issues with them yet. Hopefully I never do.


Wait is this for commercial use that you’re talking about? That would make more sense to me.

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Old 06-13-2018, 08:38 AM   #24
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If thatís the case Iíll take the ticket if it comes. Iím not getting a DOT#, and when I start crossing state lines Iím usually in the 21-24k range. I tend to stay out of OK, but NM, CO, UT, AZ, ID, MT, and WY are normal for me. Havenít had issues with them yet. Hopefully I never do.
Hopefully you don't. I have 15 days to get in compliance with current set-up. After that, Trooper said he could red flag the trailer on the 2nd violation. I'd hate to have to leave my trailer on the side of the road.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:46 AM   #25
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Yes I'm talking commercial. Non commercial you are good to 25,999 lbs I believe.
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Look inside your driver side door panel. There should be a sticker for your specific truck configuration showing gross vehicle weight. For your truck, I'd venture to say your max trailer weight is going to be somewhere around 11 to 13000 lb.

What is utterly ridiculous is American Tax paying citizens getting tickets for being slightly overweight yet I constantly see Mexicans that are Towing 2 vehicles behind a minivan, all of which they just bought at auction. I'd like to know how many of them get stopped by DPS.
The dirty secret is that the government doesn't really care about any ones safety they care that you have the money to pay the ticket and will suffer the consequences if you don't pay , and they know the illegals will never pay the fines and since they don't have any real identities they can never get the fines from them, I have heard this from LEO s who have said they told don't even pull them over it's just a waste of their time
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The dirty secret is that the government doesn't really care about any ones safety they care that you have the money to pay the ticket and will suffer the consequences if you don't pay , and they know the illegals will never pay the fines and since they don't have any real identities they can never get the fines from them, I have heard this from LEO s who have said they told don't even pull them over it's just a waste of their time
The problem is, in most cases itís not just a fine. Youíll be required to either unhook the trailer or have someone with a CDL come get it if they choose to play that way.

I havenít been able to get a straight answer about DOT. Technically, I believe they can ticket you for pulling a trailer RATED over 10k lbs, regardless of what the load on it is, even for personal use.

It is possible to find equipment trailers with dual 7k axles rated for 9,999.
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How much weight can I legally haul on a trailer in Tx?
I have a regular class C license (actually I have a class B and M, but I know those don't help me with the trailer).
My truck is a 3/4 ton.
Assuming that I am not putting more weight on the trailer than it is rated for.
Thanks.

We need more info to answer that for you. Need to know the GVWR or the truck and trailer at a minimum. Off of that I could guesstimate about how much you would be able to haul. On a lot of the newer trailers they state on the sticker the maximum weight the cargo can be. Of course, you could go over that a little since some of that weight is going to be shared with the back axle of the pickup.
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Also a lot of people do not know that there are different classes of operator licenses. There are a lot of people pulling these nice 40' fifth wheel travel trailers that can get a ticket for not having the right license. These require a Class A operators license.

When you start moving anything in commerce is when you have to have the CDL.
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Also a lot of people do not know that there are different classes of operator licenses. There are a lot of people pulling these nice 40' fifth wheel travel trailers that can get a ticket for not having the right license. These require a Class A operators license.

When you start moving anything in commerce is when you have to have the CDL.


If the 5th wheel is for personal use and the tow vehicle is rated for the weight and under 26k gross, why would they need a class a?


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If the 5th wheel is for personal use and the tow vehicle is rated for the weight and under 26k gross, why would they need a class a?


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I have a class A exempt license... And under 26,001 GCWR you do not need anything but a Class C...
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You will find that there is nothing sorrier, more worthless, more disorganized, or more corrupt than the DOT.

If the average American knew how much money that beuracracy costs them, they'd cry.
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They wouldn't.
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You will find that there is nothing sorrier, more worthless, more disorganized, or more corrupt than the DOT.

If the average American knew how much money that beuracracy costs them, they'd cry.
Well said
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It is not just the weight that you are loaded with, it is the weight that you are RATED to be carrying.

Fines will likely be very high, like over $2K. My uncle got caught on this carrying his tractor, and fines totaled $2800. They dismissed $2500 of them if he got his class A within X days. He did. He said 90% of the class A test involved air brake stuff which he will never use.
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As far as license goes.... as long as the truck and trailer GVWR when added together equals less than 26,001 lbs and the trailer weighs more than 10,000 lbs you're good to go...
More than 10,000?
Is that the trailer weight alone, or loaded?
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More than 10,000?
Is that the trailer weight alone, or loaded?
GVWR of the trailer...
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What kind of trailer and what are you trying to tow and how often?
20 ft flatbed Gooseneck, it weighs 4,000 lbs and has two 7,000 lb axles.
I am hauling round bales.
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You will find that there is nothing sorrier, more worthless, more disorganized, or more corrupt than the DOT.



If the average American knew how much money that beuracracy costs them, they'd cry.


this right here! You could add disorganized 10 more times


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Believe they added any trailer with GVW over 10,000 requires CDL unless tagged farm. I know the horse trainers are going nuts over this as every living quarters trailer is over that and illegal to tag farm if going to shows with client horses. Our 3 horse slant which we could pull behind our F150 is rated over 10,000 and if not tagged farm it would require a CDL... you can go to DPS site absolutely nuts, I didn't believe it when I was first told till I looked it up

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You will find that there is nothing sorrier, more worthless, more disorganized, or more corrupt than the DOT.

If the average American knew how much money that beuracracy costs them, they'd cry.
My business once got a ticket for $10,000 by the dot.
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:03 PM   #43
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Look inside your driver side door panel. There should be a sticker for your specific truck configuration showing gross vehicle weight. For your truck, I'd venture to say your max trailer weight is going to be somewhere around 11 to 13000 lb.

What is utterly ridiculous is American Tax paying citizens getting tickets for being slightly overweight yet I constantly see Mexicans that are Towing 2 vehicles behind a minivan, all of which they just bought at auction. I'd like to know how many of them get stopped by DPS.

Not entirely true. They can have three vehicles in combination as long as they're not over 65' in length.

It's funny though. They'll buy those cars at auction in Minnesota and drive it all the way to Panama and not break down. Some people with a nice car can't make it across the state without breaking down.
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[QUOTE=2Lazy2P;13427475The tandem trailer I pull is 7000 lbs. .[/QUOTE]


DANG! I own a 24' bed all steel lowboy with tandem 7,500lb axels and she only weighs 3,500 empty.... What kinda trailer you pulling that weighs in empty at 7K?!?
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Not entirely true. They can have three vehicles in combination as long as they're not over 65' in length.

It's funny though. They'll buy those cars at auction in Minnesota and drive it all the way to Panama and not break down. Some people with a nice car can't make it across the state without breaking down.
True... as long as the tow car weighs more than 2500 lbs empty...
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I pull a 34 foot tandom dually trailer for work that will gross 25,500 with a one ton dually, i have a class a cdl, with the truck and trailer and me in it weighs 17,500 empty. I can load 18,500 on the trailer that puts me almost to max gross
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:48 PM   #47
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Believe they added any trailer with GVW over 10,000 requires CDL unless tagged farm. I know the horse trainers are going nuts over this as every living quarters trailer is over that and illegal to tag farm if going to shows with client horses. Our 3 horse slant which we could pull behind our F150 is rated over 10,000 and if not tagged farm it would require a CDL... you can go to DPS site absolutely nuts, I didn't believe it when I was first told till I looked it up
This is not true
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Old 06-14-2018, 07:55 PM   #48
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https://www.dps.texas.gov/cve/CDL_a3.htm
https://www.dps.texas.gov/cve/CDL_a2.htm

click on bottom link, answer yes that your trailer is over 10,000lbs

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Old 06-14-2018, 08:03 PM   #49
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it appears all confusing by design.......where the trainers are in a bind are the gvwr of the trailers in conjunction with F350 puts them over and I guess it is just now being enforced, they are up in arms over it......I live in the midst of them

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Old 06-14-2018, 08:26 PM   #50
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another confusing part, looked at a toy hauler with GVWR of 19,000 and 1 ton tow vehicle 11,000......does that require CDL, just looking at DPS it appears so......or does the RV lobby have that exempt ???
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