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Old 07-17-2017, 10:50 AM   #1
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I do not own a single bolt gun. I have been looking for quite some time now at guns and deciding on a caliber. Up until now I really have had no reason to have a bolt gun since I feel my 556 and 6.8 ar15 cover everything I would hunt. I planning on a nilgai hunt soon and obviously will need a larger caliber. Most outfitter require at least a 180 gr bullet. Looking at available ammo and what would be the most reasonable I think 30-06 due to ammo selection would be best. Most manufacturers make 150-200 grain ammo for the 30-06. Would my assumption that I could shot 150 gr and both 180 gr ammo accurately from the same gun be inaccurate? I know twist rate will effect what weight ammo a barrel can shoot accurately but would it be possible to have success with ammo of different weights.

My reason for the question is I could also use the lower weight class of ammo for deer hunting and obviously the upper end for nilgai or other larger game. I just don't want to buy a rifle to hunt large game when I may only use it or he my large game every few years.

So far the rifle I am looking at is the howa 1500 lightening. 1-10 rate 22" barrel
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:51 AM   #2
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30-06 is a great choice. Pretty universal caliber......
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:48 AM   #3
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Agreed. 30.06 can do about anything you want. It hasn't been around for 111 years bacause it is bad. I am a Savage fan although I own Sako, Ruger and a couple Rossi singles. My best shooting out of the box rifles have been Savage. Everyone has their favorites.
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #4
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1-10 twist should shoot 150's and 180's fine
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Old 07-17-2017, 01:28 PM   #5
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You'll be hard pressed to find a better caliber for what you're doing than a 30-06. The only other one I MIGHT recommend would be a 300 mag, but that's entirely overkill for deer and such. I would imagine you could find loads that shoot pretty well in your rifle in both bullet weights, especially if you handload. As for the rifle, go with one from a reputable company and you'll be fine. I have handled a few howa's and they look like solid guns.
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Old 07-17-2017, 02:05 PM   #6
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.30-06 is never a bad choice. Several good choices in 180+ grain bullets for heavier game. Or use a Barnes TTSX in a lighter weight. If you're serious about nilgai make sure of what the outfitter requires. I've seen some require .300 magnum or more. At the range you'll be shooting nilgai the difference is meaningless, but they still want it.

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Old 07-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #7
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edit. sorry thought I was entering a new thread post.

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Old 07-17-2017, 04:56 PM   #8
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I would go with a 300 win mag.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:59 PM   #9
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I have the .308, .30-06 and the .300 RUM and if I am hunting Nilgai I am taking the .300 with 210gr Bergers
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:27 PM   #10
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I have the .308, .30-06 and the .300 RUM and if I am hunting Nilgai I am taking the .300 with 210gr Bergers
I would too if I had one I just don't want to buy a gun that's only rarely used when I can buy something else that's more versatile.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:32 PM   #11
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Again, check with your chosen outfitters. Most require minimum 30 caliber magnum and some require 325 caliber
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:35 PM   #12
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I would go 300 win for Nilgai. Can it be done with smaller, absolutely but if I'm buying a gun to go on a Nilgai hunt but shoot whitetail later it would be the 300 win. Also as mentioned sometimes the requirement is a minimum of 300 win.


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Old 07-17-2017, 07:51 PM   #13
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300 win mag would be my choice.
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:54 PM   #14
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30.06 - most versatile gun and can find ammo at most any Walmart or local sporting good store
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Old 07-17-2017, 07:55 PM   #15
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I would too if I had one I just don't want to buy a gun that's only rarely used when I can buy something else that's more versatile.
I have several stands that I use the RUM with 210s for white tails. They have shots to 400yds and I like to DRT at that distance.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:34 PM   #16
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If you're buying a gun mainly for nilgai hunting, look at a .338 or .375. Needed no? But it gives you a bit of a margin.

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Old 07-17-2017, 10:16 PM   #17
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the 180's are a great choice for any texas critter if they shoot well. No reason to drop bullet weight in the '06 for deer.
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Old 07-17-2017, 10:30 PM   #18
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It must be a real revelation to all the critters that have been killed with a 30-06 to learn that they would have been deader (more dead?) if they had been shot with a .300 magnum of some decription. They'll never know though, 'cause they're DEAD !
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Old 07-18-2017, 08:05 AM   #19
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Years back before I got into reloading, I had two 3006 and they didn't like a 180g pill. Just weren't very accurate. They would shoot the 150 and 165's real well though. My 300wm likes everything from 130 to 200.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:18 PM   #20
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I'd go with a 300wm. You can push some 210gr or 215gr pills as great speeds with it; which will be great for Nilgai. A good muzzle brake, like a Fat B*stard or a Vias, will knock the recoil down to not much more than a 6.5 Creedmoor. For whitetail, drop down to billets in the 160's and recoil isn't bad at all. Or, if your outfitter will let you, consider a 300wsm. They're stupid accurate, moderate recoil and great ammo choices in a wide range.

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It must be a real revelation to all the critters that have been killed with a 30-06 to learn that they would have been deader (more dead?) if they had been shot with a .300 magnum of some decription. They'll never know though, 'cause they're DEAD !


Probably the same revelation as all the game animals killed with a 300wm - that they could have been shot with the "perfect" 30-06. Lol!



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Old 07-18-2017, 03:27 PM   #21
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It must be a real revelation to all the critters that have been killed with a 30-06 to learn that they would have been deader (more dead?) if they had been shot with a .300 magnum of some decription. They'll never know though, 'cause they're DEAD !
The .30-06 will kill them and I have killed many with it. There are places that the extra knockdown power to anchor them in place really helps.

With your attitude we should all hunt with the .22 hornet. It will kill deer dead as well.
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