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Old 07-13-2017, 08:39 AM   #1
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Well gave the recurves a break yesterday and broke out the old Mathews LX compound - it still can shoot - if I do my part - the metal shed with 3 new bullet holes (arrow size) beside my backstop might not agree - lol. I still like the feel but you can tell when you have not touched her in quite awhile - still turned way down on poundage and really watching the strings etc for wear - strings were new when put in resting mode but it has been 3-4 years at least - probably better look at new strings and cables if I get serious about reawakening the old girl - hmmm - felt good though...amazing the difference between this and Trad - still love my recurves.
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The LX was the most forgiving and best shooting compound I ever owned. Still kick myself for selling it.

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What's next?
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Bring on the 30-06 vs .270 debate
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Shoot that compound with pride.
Its the same motion as a long bow, pull the string and shoot.
Only more ethical - more accurate-more consistent- more energy= less wounded game
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BOught the helim and don't even know why. Still got my lx and will keep it forever.
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That's kinda my thought on the fixed crawl method as well.

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I shot two Mathews bows and an Elite before I found another compound I feel points and shoots well for me.

That said it's been shot once since deer season and I really have no intent to hunt with it this year.

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Haa Haa. I knew that would cause some panties to bunch up.

Two words
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And, for those of you who think my methods are any less ethical, or productive than yours, lets get together & shoot sometime. I bet I can out shoot you with your bow, as well as mine. Wanna give it a go?

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Shoot that compound with pride.

Its the same motion as a long bow, pull the string and shoot.

Only more ethical - more accurate-more consistent- more energy= less wounded game


Really???? I think it has a lot more to do with the person than the equipment!

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I know some of you guys are awsome with long bows, however compounds shoot arrows faster and harder= less ducking , and deeper penetration per # of exertion.

I was just trying to even the playing field since folks were ragging on him
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:30 AM   #12
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I know some of you guys are awsome with long bows, however compounds shoot arrows faster and harder= less ducking , and deeper penetration per # of exertion.

I was just trying to even the playing field since folks were ragging on him
Hard to get deeper than ALL the way through! Every deer I've shot with my 53lb long bow has been a pass through.
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:35 AM   #13
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Loved my LX!
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I know some of you guys are awsome with long bows, however compounds shoot arrows faster and harder= less ducking , and deeper penetration per # of exertion.

I was just trying to even the playing field since folks were ragging on him
A little too generalized for me. Too bad those fast shooting, feather weight arrows don't come with brains in the purchase.

Bisch is right...judge the Indian, not the bow...
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:25 AM   #15
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By the way...speed can be measured multiple ways. Sure if you are just going off of the arrow in flight, it's hard to argue with a compound. But...put a compound guy standing next to a stick bow guy, both with arrows knocked and say 'go' - in most cases, the stick bow arrow will be in the target long before the compound.
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I know some of you guys are awsome with long bows, however compounds shoot arrows faster and harder= less ducking , and deeper penetration per # of exertion.

I was just trying to even the playing field since folks were ragging on him
Here we go again.........

To the OP and anyone else that feels the desire to reminisce about shooting compounds Hold off on posting it in the Trad forum.

The above debates always happen........
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My apologies - wow didn't realize it would cause such a fuss - see posts about guns and trucks and well - anyway okee dokee - JB
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:39 AM   #18
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Let me take this in another direction, a couple weeks ago I noticed my Hill Style Zebra Grevy hanging on the rack looking all dejected. So I pulled it down and strung it up. Man, I forgot how much fun those Hill style bows are to shoot! Kind of brought that old feeling of " This is why I shoot Trad Archery" back again! I've been enjoying myself so much, I think I'll shoot it at Fredricksburg this week end!

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Old 07-13-2017, 12:08 PM   #19
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I've seen many a unethical shot taken with a compound. Just watch outdoor channel.
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My apologies - wow didn't realize it would cause such a fuss - see posts about guns and trucks and well - anyway okee dokee - JB
Welcome my friend... I see you're new here, well it took me a little time to figure things out too. Stick it out, it will be worth your time.
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I was just jabbing a little fun, but yeah ...

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Here we go again.........

To the OP and anyone else that feels the desire to reminisce about shooting compounds Hold off on posting it in the Trad forum.

The above debates always happen........
That is really what the replies were about... nobody on here cares what you shoot OP. But bringing up compounds in the trad forum brings a thread to the top of the front page and folks will jump in and start talking about stuff they know absolutely nothing about.

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Yeah, you see posts about Trucks and guns on the other TBH sub-forums. This is the trad sub-forum. We talk about trad here. When I want to talk about guns, I go over to the gun-subforum... when I want to talk about trucks, I go over to the Around the Campfire forum... etc.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:41 PM   #24
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It's a shame a true discussion can't be had on the subject of the differences, challenges of and similarities between the two disciplines. Always someone messing it up with putting the other one down.

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I'll put my 98#er with 600 grain arrows up again just about anything where penatration is concerned.
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I know my trad arrows shooting a 50# bow don't have the penetration potential as my compound arrow from the 60# bow. But part of the trad challenge is being close. Staying in the limits of my equipment and my ability. In both disciplines my equipment out weighs my abilities.

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The thing is... in order to have a discussion about differences... you have to have folks that have experience with both. You can't have folks that know squat about the other methods, talking crap about those methods.

Folks who call equipment less ethical, yet they have folks using the same equipment they are, making questionable decisions too. Makes me cringe.

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Hard to get deeper than ALL the way through! Every deer I've shot with my 53lb long bow has been a pass through.
Good example of over-penetration.
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I shoot a compound, but I do air out the Red Wing Hunter from time to time. To tell the truth, I admire the discipline it takes to become a good trad bow shooter. Carry on guys !
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Anyone who knows me knows - I am one of the most tolerant trad shooters of other equipment there is. I've got nothing against compounds at all. Crossbows, well that's a different story, and don't need to be discussed here.

The thing is - this "Traditional Forum" was created with the specific intent of allowing the trad guys to have a forum where they could discuss "Traditional Equipment" without the clutter of other things. That's it in a nut shell. Simple.

Now, as to what I said in my first post - yes, I was picking on you. Get used to that, because I'll probably pick on you again somewhere down the road, BUT keep in mind, it's only friendly poking.

I was serious as a heart attack with what I said in my second post. Don't start downing the trad stuff. All that does is show you don't understand, and/or don't know how to use it.

Now, just a little FYI for some of you - Mcalester Oklahoma Army Ammunition Post does draw hunts on the post. They did some extensive survey & study some years ago, and due to the results of that study, they only allow Traditional Equipment to hunt. They found the wounding & lost animal ratio was far less than that of the compound.

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To coin a quote from one of my favorite movies:

"I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."



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"I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."



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Haa Haa. I knew that would cause some panties to bunch up.

Two words
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And, for those of you who think my methods are any less ethical, or productive than yours, lets get together & shoot sometime. I bet I can out shoot you with your bow, as well as mine. Wanna give it a go?

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I'm not sure your info is correct on the McAllister area. I don't think they ever see much to shoot on those hunts. Or at least that's what a guy who has been drawn there tells me.

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Nope. I'm right. I also have several friends who have connected with nice animals there. One of those friends shot this guy in 2012. I think it's the current MCAAP record, but not positive.

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Actually, Mcalester went to traditional equipment to cut down on the harvest rate without cutting back on the number of hunters. Their belief was that that the success rate was lower for traditional hunters than for compound hunters. Research conducted subsequent to this implementing this policy supported their conclusions.

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You better double check your info! They kill lots of deer at MCAAP, and some real whoppers to boot!!!

And, because it is harder to be successful with trad gear, the successes with trad gear are that much sweeter!!!!

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I doubt seriously that can be correct Rick. No offence but I'm a lot more precise and deadly with my compound. Granted I haven't been doing this long, and there are some great trad shooters out there, but I've seen just as many slob trad hunters as I have great ones. That's one of the reasons I didn't delve into it years ago. I knwe the commitment it took and knew too many guys who were 10% ers. You know, they recovered 10% of the deer they shot. Thats why even now i realize I made the right decision on waiting. I think a lot of B'S and puffed up egos on both sides want to spew crud and not talk real facts.

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Actually, Mcalester went to traditional equipment to cut down on the harvest rate without cutting back on the number of hunters. Their research indicated that the success rate was lower for traditional hunters that for compound hunters.

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That too, but they did at one time state the wound & lost animals rates as being lower with trad equipment than with the compound. Maybe they've edited that particular info out in an effort to not offend anyone, because I read the official document of the research not long after it was first released.

Now, think about that for a minute. If the Trad guys had a higher wound & loss rate, cutting back to trad only would not decrease the number of animals removed from the field at all. It would only reduce the number of animals brought into camp.

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I was told by an insider from MCAAP, that the compound guys were to prone to taking longer shots than they should, which resulted in more wounded & lost animals than they were willing to accept. Take that info, or leave it, but I guarantee you I would not offer it if not the truth.

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The first deer lease I ever got on had some slob trad hunters running it. Cowtown Bowman board members. They wounded and lost deer left and right. I killed everyone I shot at on the lease. They were so elitist because I had a Bear Whitetail 2 compound. They said they were real bowhunters.

Maybe the few guys on here, Buff and a couple others have been impressive but there are a lot more trad shooters who aren't as committed and capable yet hunt. And remember, only a small percentage of bowhunters frequent forums.

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In fact some of the rhetoric on here was deflating to me because I saw some of that elitist attitude in a person or two and getting into this was intimidating. After all going from a nock splitting, killing machine to can't hit the side of a barn from the inside was definitely humbling.

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Just sucks that I have to have separate peers to talk to about bows with wheels and those without.

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Well, I'm not trying to toot my own horn here (really), and I'm definitely not trying to bash anyone, but here's what my experience has been.

I've been trad shooting now for 51 years. I've been trad hunting for 32 years.
Why the difference in years? The answer is simple. It took me that many years before I felt proficient enough with my bow to hunt with it.

In that 32 years of hunting, I have lost 7 animals. 3 deer, and 4 hogs. Pretty good success rate considering the hundreds I have recovered.

In all my years of bowhunting, and sharing a hunting lease, I was always the only trad guy on the lease. All the rest were compound guys. I killed just as many deer & pigs as they did, and spent way more time looking for their shot animals, than I did mine, MANY of which were never recovered.

Regardless of which, it's not about the equipment.
It's about the dedication, and the honesty to yourself in knowing your limitations.
It's a mind set, YOU have to develop, and some (dare I say many) don't have the maturity to do so.

I can (could. haven't tried in a long time) shoot milk jugs at 100 yards with a good compound bow. Been there, done that (many times), and have the witnesses, and the money in my pocket to prove it, but I would NEVER try to kill an animal that far away with any bow.

There are slob hunters in every faction, and no more in one than any other.

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That too, but they did at one time state the wound & lost animals rates as being lower with trad equipment than with the compound. Maybe they've edited that particular info out in an effort to not offend anyone, because I read the official document of the research not long after it was first released.

Now, think about that for a minute. If the Trad guys had a higher wound & loss rate, cutting back to trad only would not decrease the number of animals removed from the field at all. It would only reduce the number of animals brought into camp.

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I was told by an insider from MCAAP, that the compound guys were to prone to taking longer shots than they should, which resulted in more wounded & lost animals than they were willing to accept. Take that info, or leave it, but I guarantee you I would not offer it if not the truth.
Rick, I would love to read that study, but I haven't been able to locate it.
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You need to get past thinking folks are snobs about it.
They aren't. Well maybe some, but most aren't, and I'm darn sure not.

The point is - I'm not interested in talking about, or seeing discussions about anything other than traditional equipment in what is supposed to be a traditional only forum. That does not mean I'm not interested in other equipment at all. I am, but I take myself to those venues when I feel the need.

Hope that makes sense. If not, then I give up.

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Rick, I would love to read that study, but I haven't been able to locate it.
That's what I said Phil. It must have been edited out to smooth feather at one time or another. It's amazing what PC pressure can accomplish when applied in the right places.

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That's what I said Phil. It must have been edited out to smooth feather at one time or another. It's amazing what PC pressure can accomplish when applied in the right places.

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Rick, I'm thinking it must have been an earlier study. The one I posted a link too, took place after they had switched to traditional. I agree with you in that when I come to this forum I want to talk about trad equipment and subjects.
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