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Old 07-11-2017, 01:33 PM   #1
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What bullet are you guys using?

I should preface that by saying I am stuck with a 12 twist, so the heavies are out of the question for me.

I had planned on shooting the Sierra #1365, 55 grain SBT. It is a great bullet, holds up good, a real killer on coyotes and deer. And it shoots fair in my Encore, about 3/4 MOA. Honestly that is probably accurate enough for what I need.

But I threw together about a dozen loads with some 55 NBT's I needed to burn up, and they shot really nice. I know with the solid base the NBT is a tougher bullet than the VMAX, but don't know if it is tough enough for pigs or not.

I don't want a premium bullet like Barnes because mostly this is just going to be a night time coyote/varmint rifle with a NV scope on it. But I would like a bullet that would do decent on pigs too if I had a shot at them.

Any suggestions on some well constructed bullets in the lighter weight range?
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:40 PM   #2
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NBTs should do the trick with a Neck/Head shot
I've killed pigs with v-max too
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:43 PM   #3
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What bullet are you guys using?

I should preface that by saying I am stuck with a 12 twist, so the heavies are out of the question for me.

I had planned on shooting the Sierra #1365, 55 grain SBT. It is a great bullet, holds up good, a real killer on coyotes and deer. And it shoots fair in my Encore, about 3/4 MOA. Honestly that is probably accurate enough for what I need.

But I threw together about a dozen loads with some 55 NBT's I needed to burn up, and they shot really nice. I know with the solid base the NBT is a tougher bullet than the VMAX, but don't know if it is tough enough for pigs or not.

I don't want a premium bullet like Barnes because mostly this is just going to be a night time coyote/varmint rifle with a NV scope on it. But I would like a bullet that would do decent on pigs too if I had a shot at them.

Any suggestions on some well constructed bullets in the lighter weight range?

3/4 MOA you should be ear holing them all day.
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Old 07-11-2017, 01:55 PM   #4
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I know justintyme8303. I was happy with 3/4 MOA until I shot the 55 NBT and it was throwing those little groups. I am always tempted by bullets that shoot tight.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:12 PM   #5
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Remington 55gr PSP holds together pretty good and I think there cheap. They're like a miniature Core lokt.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:19 PM   #6
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We honestly do pretty good with cheap FMJs and green tips. Had plenty of pigs DRT with shots square in the shoulder. This includes pretty big boars. We shoot a lot of pigs so it gets expensive quick with expensive bullets
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:23 PM   #7
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It's all about placement. For pigs, a little ole 17HMR will work-if you put it in the ear.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:28 PM   #8
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I've put down a pile of pigs with the 55 grain NBT. No complaints from me, even when shooting them thru the lungs.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:34 PM   #9
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Sierra 65gr GameKings are about the best tough .223 bullet.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:37 PM   #10
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Sierra 65gr GameKings are about the best tough .223 bullet.
I agree on that bullet, but my 12 twist won't stabilize it. That is what I wish I could shoot.
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:41 PM   #11
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55gr FMJ.. our truck gun is a single shot bull barrel 223.. we've killed piles of hogs with it the last 20 years
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Old 07-11-2017, 02:42 PM   #12
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I have used the hornady sp 55 grain with good results. Probably 15 deer and a dozen hogs. Mostly head shots on the hogs. Several of the deer were high shoulder or lung shot and they did great.

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Old 07-11-2017, 02:55 PM   #13
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Barnes TSX works good here. I wish the heavier-than-55gr versions weren't so hard to find. My 1:7 doesn't shoot them as accurately as I'd like.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:01 PM   #14
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I agree on that bullet, but my 12 twist won't stabilize it. That is what I wish I could shoot.
You might give them a try if you haven't yet. I have read where a lot of people have good luck with them in 1:12--it just depends on the gun. They are rated for 1:10 or faster on the Sierra site, so that is getting close to 12.
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Old 07-11-2017, 03:34 PM   #15
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Winchester Ranger 64 gr. PowerPoint. Boom, whop, thud.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:10 PM   #16
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My go-to rifle for nightime pig hunts is a M70 Featherweight in .22-250 and my pig medicine is a NBT 55-gr over H380 zipping along at 3550 fps. I have killed literally hundreds of pigs with that combo and have never lost one--missed one last month though. Now, my nighttime hunts are over lighted feeders, at ranges from 58 yds to 125 yds, and it is relatively simple to poke a bullet mid-way on a line from eye to ear hole, and that is a DRT shot.
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Old 07-11-2017, 05:26 PM   #17
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We honestly do pretty good with cheap FMJs and green tips. Had plenty of pigs DRT with shots square in the shoulder. This includes pretty big boars. We shoot a lot of pigs so it gets expensive quick with expensive bullets
I guess me and the sons are just lucky...we shoot the same and DRT! Why, because these rounds "penetrate" the dense muscle/bone of swine! We hunt the piggies with AR platforms since we want to put down as many as we can, slinging some lead! But there is always ONE....my TBH son has put down several with his 10mm Glock from the bow stand. Just thoughts...but try it, works for us....
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Old 07-11-2017, 08:05 PM   #18
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55 gr soft point to the brain works great.

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Old 07-11-2017, 08:09 PM   #19
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I have used the hornady sp 55 grain with good results. Probably 15 deer and a dozen hogs. Mostly head shots on the hogs. Several of the deer were high shoulder or lung shot and they did great.
^ This is it! I haven't personally killed a pig with it but my wife has a Remington Model Seven 223 with 1:12 twist and uses the Hornady 55 gr. SP and has taken more than her fair share of pigs and deer with it. Amazing the damage that little pill does!
Very accurate in that gun also!

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Old 07-12-2017, 04:52 AM   #20
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My cousin is having a ball using 75gr subs with a Ruger American using a AAC 7.62 SD can.
Under 100 yds DRT and super quiet. Still a big slap when bullet hits pig. Love that sound
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Old 07-12-2017, 05:48 AM   #21
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Old 07-12-2017, 12:07 PM   #22
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We shoot lots of them year around, seldom from a blind. With .17 HMR and up. we try for multiple kills every time. Some two with one shot on the first shot into a sounder.
I am not a fan of the .223 because most of the shots are running and/or at a distance. Without a decent blood trail ( thick hide and lots of fat), it can be hard to Locate the bodies in the thickets where they run.
We have settled on a 6.5 CM and a .270 for big hogs. For Headshots or small pigs, caliber doesn't really matter.

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Old 07-12-2017, 12:41 PM   #23
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I kill 'em fine with 55gr mil surplus fmj... most drop on impact
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Old 07-12-2017, 01:47 PM   #24
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I was shooting 62 grain Winchester Super X......I am now shooting Freedom Munitions 60gr Soft Points.

This is all for night time hunting with my thermal. ALOT cheaper and my last 6 kills have dropped in their tracks.. .45 cents a round I will take it
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Old 07-12-2017, 02:20 PM   #25
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I'm taking my 9 yo niece pig huntn this eve. AR w red dot & 63 gr Silver Bear hp's. Shot will be under 50 yds.

I'll let ya know how they do. ��
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:04 PM   #26
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55 gr Hornady SP for me. Relatively inexpensive and effective!
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Old 07-12-2017, 03:09 PM   #27
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Hornady Whitetail Classic 60gr. will also knock down a big old Axis!!!!

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Old 07-12-2017, 05:55 PM   #28
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55gr VMax ear hole is the key hole.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:10 PM   #29
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You can pretty much kill anything with an ear shot with pretty much any caliber. But I'm pretty sure that's not the info Jethro is looking for.

Jethro you ruled out Barnes and that would have been my first choice. A varmint Bullet dang sure wouldn't be my choice at all.

Maybe a 55grain Hornady interlock or some other kind of stout Bullet?


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Old 07-12-2017, 10:20 PM   #30
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I've gone to 223 w/65gr just last year. I can't say I'm a fan of this yet as I have the most confidence on these in any conditions when shooting my 308.
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:31 PM   #31
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Old 07-12-2017, 10:31 PM   #32
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Any 55gr soft point should be adequate. I love Nosler BTs for my 6.5s but I haven't tried them in a 223. Don't see why they wouldn't be great. I'd be looking at rebarreling that thing to a faster twist, like 1:8. Unless you're dead set on shooting lightweight (>55gr) bullets, that aren't the best (imo) for hogs and and deer.


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Old 07-13-2017, 07:18 AM   #33
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I know the 223 is not the best for pigs, in any configuration. For sure not with varmint bullets. And quite honestly if I am going on a sho-nuff, serious pig hunt I will move the Photon over to a bigger rifle. But you never know when you will run across a pig around here out night hunting and I would like to be shooting a decent enough bullet that at least has a chance on one. I know the Sierra #1365 can handle that, and it may be what I end up shooting.

I have some 64 Nosler Bonded that I KNOW will handle the job, and they shoot OK in it. Accurate enough for pigs anyways. I don't generally like to carry two kinds of ammo because you always tend to have the wrong thing in the gun when you need it. That isn't near as big a deal with the Encore though since you can swap loads so fast. If I can get the 64 shooting the same POI as the 55 NBT I might go that route.

Horitexan, to address your question about twist. Finding a faster than 12 twist barrel for an Encore is a PITA unless you want to order full custom. I threw this rifle together as a budget project for a frame I already had. The original concept wasn't a pig gun (and really still isn't, to be honest). It will just have to do the best it can with a slow twist. Basically I was just putting an Encore frame back in service on the cheap.
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:30 AM   #34
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Old 07-13-2017, 07:40 AM   #35
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:06 AM   #36
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I've killed many pigs with the hornady training 55 gr sp 223 ammo. here's one recovered between shoulder and hide on the far shoulder two weeks ago, 200lb sow @ 60yds
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:25 AM   #37
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1-12 twist??? Id be shopping for a new barrel...

The new 75 grain hornady black look like pig killing machines...

That said, ive killed a BUNCH with 55 fmj...
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:11 AM   #38
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Old 07-14-2017, 10:12 AM   #39
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Codi's weighed #285, mine was about #165.


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Deb's big boar weighed #385 and dropped with only one shot with a broken C1 . The vertebrae was completely dissentigrated


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Old 07-14-2017, 05:15 PM   #42
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I kill 'em fine with 55gr mil surplus fmj... most drop on impact
At last count I think there are about 3+- that all agree on this? Looks like we are in the minority...but agreed...DRT and NOT just head/ear shots.
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I've killed many pigs with the hornady training 55 gr sp 223 ammo. here's one recovered between shoulder and hide on the far shoulder two weeks ago, 200lb sow @ 60yds
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Old 07-16-2017, 10:27 AM   #44
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I'm having pretty good luck with 75 grain Hornady Black Ammo- boattail hollow points from Academy; the first two pictures were from this weekends hunt, neck shots on all three DRT.
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Old 07-18-2017, 10:59 PM   #45
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Here is what a 50 gr. jacketed hollow point did to a 4"+ diameter oak tree at 40 yds. just last friday. Should do a number on all but the biggest of hogs. I've seen large caliber bullets not penetrate, stuck in the shield of large boars.

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