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Old 10-28-2018, 02:34 PM   #1
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This week, you're going to need a step ladder or a way to get your feet about three or four feet above ground level in reference to target. Also, get a small to medium size rectangular cardboard box.

With hunting season in full swing, we're going to simulate a hard-quartering-away shot on game from a somewhat elevated position. The shot will force you to find the middle of the "kill zone" -- since, animals don't always stand directly broadside and present a 3D kill zone drawing to know where to aim for a "12". I will say that this shot is somewhat inspired by a series of videos about "Center Kill" methodology.

Here's a link to one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8RXpgOdGFc

Specifically, place cardboard box in front of backstop at about a 45-degree angle. Trace a quarter-size spot with a center dot at the top middle near one end of the box. Also, draw a horizontal line across box front side a couple of inches below the top edge of the box. Shoot from 11 yards. The goal is to shoot an arrow from an elevated position and hit the horizontal line at the correct angle "back" to also intersect a point directly below the top-center spot. This should put the arrow in the center of the kill zone. Measure arrow shaft distance from horizontal line, and then lay a long straight-edge on top of box to line up arrow in relation to the top-spot -- draw a line on top of box to show arrow path through the box. Measure distance from that line to the center of the top spot. Shortest total distance from nearest shaft edge to front line added with distance from shaft edge line to center of top spot will win next week's call.

Hopefully, this will be good practice. In that spirit, try it more than once. One "first shot" allowed per day. Best (lowest) one-day total wins.


This is all much simpler to do than to describe.

Good luck, and have fun!

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Here's a couple of pictures of the set-up. Basically simple: box at 45-degree angle; line across front near top; spot on top middle toward farther end.


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Old 10-28-2018, 02:58 PM   #3
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BTW, the marked out line on the top of box is from a similar shot call last week on Rick's Traditional Archery Friends site. That call was for a ground-level quartering away shot. Txrebel won that, by the way, with a 1-1/8" total, bettering my 1-1/4" total. Both would have been deadly.
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I'm looking for a suitable box.
So far no luck finding one around here.
I may to improvise. Any ideas?

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I'm looking for a suitable box.
So far no luck finding one around here.
I may to improvise. Any ideas?

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Well, I kind of had in mind a mid-size pig body. Could probably make a largish shoe box work, propping it up a little. Trying to allow depiction of three dimensions through an animal body. Suppose you could even shoot through a worn-out block target that would allow some pass-through of the front end so it could be lined up for relation to the top middle spot, and could attach a piece of paper with line near the top front of block for that measurement.

BTW, if anyone happens to be at a Home Depot, those Small boxes are real cheap (I believe less than a dollar).

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Well, I kind of had in mind a mid-size pig body. Could probably make a largish shoe box work, propping it up a little. Trying to allow depiction of three dimensions through an animal body. Suppose you could even shoot through a worn-out block target that would allow some pass-through of the front end so it could be lined up for relation to the top middle spot, and could attach a piece of paper with line near the top front of block for that measurement.

BTW, if anyone happens to be at a Home Depot, those Small boxes are real cheap (I believe less than a dollar).
I'm eyeballing one of my wife's kitchen plastic trash cans.

Still undecided about it. I'm afraid of the repercussions later.

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You copied somebody else on this one!! 🤣🤣🤣

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I meant to advise shooting this shot safely. Last time an elevated shot was called, Randy Madden balanced on the railing of his deck to shoot.

I didn't know that part of that advice might include avoiding repercussions from another family member.

On the other hand, Rick, the kitchen can probably uses liners anyway, so what's a few arrow holes and Sharpie lines more or less matter to the trash can?
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Yeah, ME, on Rick's site.
Do you know of another one?
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Yeah, ME, on Rick's site.

Do you know of another one?


No! I thought Rick had posted it on his site. Sorry!!!!

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No! I thought Rick had posted it on his site. Sorry!!!!

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No problem, buddy.
Why don't you get yourself a box and go shoot it. Bet you'd do great!
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Y'all pray for me.
I shot the wife's trash can.

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Setup:

I don't know if this is even remotely what you were calling for,
but I tried to spruce it up a bit with some visuals.

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Result.

A little high, and forward, but it's one dead double lunged piggy.

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Amazing production, Rick! Excellent shot, as well. You totally got the spirit of the shot! Especially love the balloons. Demonstrates the wisdom of the shot angle. Dead pig; short track.

Just hope wife understands the scientific and himanitarian nature of the can's sacrifice.


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Yep, that was a good show Rick! You should win just for effort!

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Amazing production, Rick! Excellent shot, as well. You totally got the spirit of the shot! Especially love the balloons. Demonstrates the wisdom of the shot angle. Dead pig; short track.

Just hope wife understands the scientific and himanitarian nature of the can's sacrifice.


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Thanks.
Wife hasn't noticed the trashcan yet. Maybe she won't. LOL

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Yep, that was a good show Rick! You should win just for effort!

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Thanks.
I wasn't sure I was doing it right, so I decided to at least make it interesting.

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Gulp - She noticed the split in the trashcan.

I even used a paper towel, and alcohol, and cleaned all the lines & spots off it.

I'm playing dumb.

I'll have to own up to it though if she starts blaming the kids.

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Stick with "science".

"Had to demonstrate the most effective way to eradicate swine that happen to be quartering away. This small sacrifice will help untold numbers of hunters make better shots and recover their quarry more quickly to feed more hungry children."

"So you SHOT the trash can???? Really???"

"Well, yeah. Was kinda thinking a new black one would look nicer, anyway."

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Stick with "science".

"Had to demonstrate the most effective way to eradicate swine that happen to be quartering away. This small sacrifice will help untold numbers of hunters make better shots and recover their quarry more quickly to feed more hungry children."

"So you SHOT the trash can???? Really???"

"Well, yeah. Was kinda thinking a new black one would look nicer, anyway."


She might not see spit in the black one!!
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All I had was a computer box which wasn't quite turned at a 45 from the ladder but fun none the less!!



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Good shot, Slew! That box will work just fine. One of those Black Label lean hogs.


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Old 10-29-2018, 09:10 PM   #23
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I'm gonna blame a shaky ladder for my shot today (and be glad I called for multiple days to improve).

Was 5-1/4" forward and 2-3/8" low, so 7-5/8" total off.

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Couldn't end on that, so scrounged another old box and steadied the ladder. After a couple of practice shots, ended with this. Feeling better.

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Day 2 shot forward, but closer to horizontal line.Didn't bother to measure.


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Day 3: finally a decent shot. Shaft path is 1/2" forward, with entry 1/8" below line. Total of 5/8". Will take that.

Got better from all of Rick's discussion about anchor consistency and release reliability. May still say Rick leads due to his selfless and intrepid sacrifice of the wife's trashcan for our greater good.



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^^^Nice shot tradtiger^^^^

Hoping to have time to shoot this.
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Day 3: finally a decent shot. Shaft path is 1/2" forward, with entry 1/8" below line. Total of 5/8". Will take that.

Got better from all of Rick's discussion about anchor consistency and release reliability. May still say Rick leads due to his selfless and intrepid sacrifice of the wife's trashcan for our greater good.



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I am NOT going to shoot my wife's trash can again just to try to beat this.

Great shot.

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Got home from work this morning, ate breakfast, and set up the shot.






To far forward 3 1/8

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You nailed the elevation, Reb! Good shot. Couple more days to go.
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I am 100% thankful for the trash-can-balloon demonstration because for the life of me I couldn't figure out what we were going for here. Of course now it's glaringly obvious. I need to find a box and some balloons. There is no way in heck I'd survive long enough to post the result if I shoot the kitchen can.

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Old 11-02-2018, 12:06 AM   #32
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Get 'em, Junkers!

Don't have to inflate balloons, but if you trust Rick's presentation, you will see the truth of my challenge. Hit near the upper line and enough back toward an angled animal from an elevated position, then you will kill it with a double lung shot.
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Old 11-04-2018, 12:01 PM   #33
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Guess my third try prevails. Some nice shots this week. Rick definitely wins the "Profiles in Courage Award" for shooting his wife's kitchen trash can and showing us what the shot it supposed to do -- double lung a quartering-away critter!

I'll post a new challenge shortly.
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