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Old 02-12-2018, 03:20 PM   #1
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About to get me a new gun built. I just sold a semi custom .308 because I just want to do something different in looks and was thinking of a full on custom this time.

I do not reload and have zero plans of doing so in the near future so off the shelf ammo is what I want, even though I order most of mine from Dallas reloads.

I will sometimes try to shoot paper and stretch the legs a little at longer distances but most shots hunting will be no further than 300.

Gun will be suppressed and a 20' or shorter barrel is ideal.

Just sometimes think maybe I should get something different but I just cant come up with a good reason why so wanted to see what everyone here thought!
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:22 PM   #2
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I can't think of one....proceed.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:24 PM   #3
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Realize that the 6.5 Creed is guaranteed to do the following.

1. Bring World Peace
2, Cure Cancer
3. Feed the Hungry
4. House the Homeless
5. Solve poverty
6. Clean the Oceans
7. Stop Climate Change
8. Make Cats and Dogs Get along.
9. Make wives approve of any gun purchases.

We all need to embrace this.

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I love my .308 and will do everything you are asking.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:26 PM   #4
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Gun will be suppressed and a 20' or shorter barrel is ideal.
I'd say 20 feet is a bit overkill
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:29 PM   #5
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Why get a Custom ... Plenty of factory rifle can shoot 300 yards easily and are threaded for suppressor .. Savage Hog Hunter in 308 Win. Just looked at their site and looks like it would fit you..
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:30 PM   #6
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:30 PM   #7
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308 does everything good. I think there are some better rounds, but 308 still checks all your boxes.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:32 PM   #8
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Can’t.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:33 PM   #9
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:33 PM   #10
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I'd say 20 feet is a bit overkill
dang it, I thought I corrected that. lol
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:34 PM   #11
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No need for a custom if you’re shooting 300 yards. Get a Ruger American predator for $400 and save your money
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:34 PM   #12
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Why get a Custom ... Plenty of factory rifle can shoot 300 yards easily and are threaded for suppressor .. Savage Hog Hunter in 308 Win. Just looked at their site and looks like it would fit you..
Just personal preference. I can get a savage at 40%off but nothing is smooth as or is exactly what I want to look like other than custom.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:35 PM   #13
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A decent quality .308 and a $18 box of Core-Lokts will outshoot the average nut behind the trigger, and fill the freezer with any game in Texas out to 500 yards.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:36 PM   #14
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No need for a custom if youíre shooting 300 yards. Get a Ruger American predator for $400 and save your money
There is also no need for any conveniences in your vehicle like heated/cooled seats. but I like those too and it is what I want.

Also there will be times when I stretch it out and see how far I can sling it.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:37 PM   #15
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Thought about any of the WSM rounds?
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:38 PM   #16
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don't buy one! did that help?
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:42 PM   #17
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Love my .308.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:42 PM   #18
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I'd say if you want a custom do it. Don't really need a reason like competition shooting or slaying critters a 1000 yards.

It's hard to describe a custom and it's not for everyone.

Being that you don't reload it's going to be hard to say you should try this or that. Currently the only thing that comes close to a 308 in availability of ammo from cheap hunting to premium hunting and match is the 65 Creedmoor.

It's today's flavor of the month but who's to say what ammo availability will be like in a few years. I tend to think it will do well and will always be something available just as there is for the 260 rem and 7mm-08, a couple of previous flavors of the month.

My opinion, hand load and shoot what ever you want.

To answer your op, 7mm-08 or a 30-06.

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Old 02-12-2018, 03:54 PM   #19
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308. Is a great round and will do anything you need it too. Also don't have to look all over the planet to find ammo for it. Sako a7 308 will be plenty of rifle
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:36 PM   #20
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Ainít a thing in the world wrong with a 308. It doesnít necessarily excel at much of anything but it does a lot of things well.

Great utility round to have around.


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Old 02-12-2018, 04:57 PM   #21
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Prolly kinda like alot of us on here, not awesome at even 1 thing, but pretty good at alot of things. That being said i ain't talkin u outta 1
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:02 PM   #22
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About to get me a new gun built. I just sold a semi custom .308 because I just want to do something different in looks and was thinking of a full on custom this time.



I do not reload and have zero plans of doing so in the near future so off the shelf ammo is what I want, even though I order most of mine from Dallas reloads.



I will sometimes try to shoot paper and stretch the legs a little at longer distances but most shots hunting will be no further than 300.



Gun will be suppressed and a 20' or shorter barrel is ideal.



Just sometimes think maybe I should get something different but I just cant come up with a good reason why so wanted to see what everyone here thought!


I know there is a nice, accurate Tikka T3
.308 in the classifieds with a nikon prostaff of top ready to go. My furthest kill with it was a pig at 360 yards. Half inch groups at 100 yards with 168 gr fusions


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Old 02-12-2018, 05:06 PM   #23
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Ainít a thing in the world wrong with a 308. It doesnít necessarily excel at much of anything but it does a lot of things well.

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Prolly kinda like alot of us on here, not awesome at even 1 thing, but pretty good at alot of things. That being said i ain't talkin u outta 1
That's why I like it. Plus I already have the ammo.

The only thing I would consider besides custom would be a Remington 5r but would still get smith work done on it anyways and already looking at one.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:08 PM   #24
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Hard to beat .308, have you thought about 300 blackout or 30'06? only other round I have heard that packs a good punch is a 6.5mm (in nato standards not sure what it is in american).
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:11 PM   #25
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If your looking at the 5r have you contemplated the model 70 extreme weather? If you have the money to go full custom I say go for it. But I personally just do not like the .308 but for your use it would be fine. I would probably run a 7mm-08 though just on principle especially if your having reloads made


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Old 02-12-2018, 05:20 PM   #26
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That's why I like it. Plus I already have the ammo.

The only thing I would consider besides custom would be a Remington 5r but would still get smith work done on it anyways and already looking at one.
I've got a 5r Gen II in .260 that has been really great. Pleased with the action and stock, but did put in a Timney. Ballistics about like a Creedmoor, but it was a convenient excuse to get into reloading given the scarcity of ammo.

Nothing wrong with a .308, but its always fun to tinker with new calibers.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:32 PM   #27
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Another vote for the 308
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:38 PM   #28
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I have a 20-inch fluted bull barrel .308 and I absolutely love it. Shot an axis doe at 225 a couple of weeks ago and drop was negligible. 300 shouldn’t be a problem at all.

Do it.
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Old 02-12-2018, 05:44 PM   #29
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I'll agree that the 308 is most likely going to be the easiest to get ammo on, and it will pretty much do anything in the US. Unless I missed it, what are you going to be hunting, or, maybe have the chance to hunt in say the next 5 years?
I like the 300 but I see that I may be alone on that boat.
With the right optics the 300 may not have anything over the 308, but like the heated seasts, just kinda like it.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:09 PM   #30
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I'll agree that the 308 is most likely going to be the easiest to get ammo on, and it will pretty much do anything in the US. Unless I missed it, what are you going to be hunting, or, maybe have the chance to hunt in say the next 5 years?
I like the 300 but I see that I may be alone on that boat.
With the right optics the 300 may not have anything over the 308, but like the heated seasts, just kinda like it.
Whitetail, axis, aoudad, black buck, pigs for sure and who knows what else.
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:26 PM   #31
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my vote is 308 as well. 6.5 is an in vogue caliber but 308 will do everything you need and more....cheaper
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:37 PM   #32
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Hard to beat a 308 for versatility and ammo options. That said I just went custom 7mm-08 since I have a 308 already. Lots of good ammo around for it as well. Good Luck
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If this is going to be your only go-to hunting and range rifle I say go with .308. If you have any other rifles in a popular large game caliber that youíll also use I say pick something interesting.
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Here’s a better question. What does the 308 excel at besides ammo availability?
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Old 02-12-2018, 06:55 PM   #35
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Although I don't own one, I can't think of a single reason to not build a .308 ......... if you want to. At least 75% of the cartridges available to us aren't needed. That's what makes it so great, it ain't about need.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:17 PM   #37
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Read up on 25-06 or 6.5 and you’ll never want a 307
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Hereís a better question. What does the 308 excel at besides ammo availability?
That's actually not a better question and has already been addressed.
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That's actually not a better question and has already been addressed.
I actually see most replies have said it doesnít do well at anything but will get the job done. If I missed something, let me know.

Mark, the 7-08, 6.5, etc in my opinion out perform it. However for a non magnum I think a 280 would be one of the best all around calibers you can get. Nosler makes very good ammo for it. Will you find it in every corner store in Texas? No. But itís easy to buy. For your need to do list, thereís a pile of calibers that will do what you need. Iím not a fan of the 308 as itís innefficient. Itís not good in the wind. Itís slow. It doesnít hit as hard as some I mentioned due to these as well. You can run a 7-08 in a shorter barrel and itíll do fine. As with several others. If a guy wants a 308 then my vote is buy 2!! . But not based on it being a good caliber.
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^^ true ...my go-to deer rifle for the last 20yrs is a 280 Browning A-Bolt. It is a flat out killer! My Win featherweight 308 got me from 9yr old to 18yrs old tho and killed too many deer to count!
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I actually see most replies have said it doesnít do well at anything but will get the job done. If I missed something, let me know.

Mark, the 7-08, 6.5, etc in my opinion out perform it. However for a non magnum I think a 280 would be one of the best all around calibers you can get. Nosler makes very good ammo for it. Will you find it in every corner store in Texas? No. But itís easy to buy. For your need to do list, thereís a pile of calibers that will do what you need. Iím not a fan of the 308 as itís innefficient. Itís not good in the wind. Itís slow. It doesnít hit as hard as some I mentioned due to these as well. You can run a 7-08 in a shorter barrel and itíll do fine. As with several others. If a guy wants a 308 then my vote is buy 2!! . But not based on it being a good caliber.
One of my good buddies who shoots a lot, bench rest comps, has odd caliber guns and reloads everything was telling me to look hard at the 7-08 instead. But the little reading and comparisons I saw did t really show that much difference and if they did it was in the .308 favor. Why is 7-08 better?
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One of my good buddies who shoots a lot, bench rest comps, has odd caliber guns and reloads everything was telling me to look hard at the 7-08 instead. But the little reading and comparisons I saw did t really show that much difference and if they did it was in the .308 favor. Why is 7-08 better?
Better BC. By far. 7mm projectiles are much more efficient.
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One of my good buddies who shoots a lot, bench rest comps, has odd caliber guns and reloads everything was telling me to look hard at the 7-08 instead. But the little reading and comparisons I saw did t really show that much difference and if they did it was in the .308 favor. Why is 7-08 better?
I know you said you aren't going to shoot that far, but you can get some high BC bullets at lower weights in 7mm. For example, a 162gr ELD-X has a BC of .613. In comparison, a .308 diameter 178 gr ELD-X has a BC of .535. That is going to make the 7mm pay huge dividends should you ever want to stretch the gun out. If nothing else, the 7-08 will be hitting harder than the .308 should you get past 400-500 yards. If they both have ammo readily available, why go with a .308? They're using the same parent case..

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Better BC. By far. 7mm projectiles are much more efficient.
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I know you said you aren't going to shoot that far, but you can get some high BC bullets at lower weights in 7mm. For example, a 162gr ELD-X has a BC of .613. In comparison, a .308 diameter 178 gr ELD-X has a BC of .535. That is going to make the 7mm pay huge dividends should you ever want to stretch the gun out. If nothing else, the 7-08 will be hitting harder than the .308 should you get past 400-500 yards. If they both have ammo readily available, why go with a .308? They're using the same parent case..
This is what I was wanting.

So 7-08 still good at 20" barrel length?

Also what kind of bbl twist would I need? For .308 I was thinking 1:10 and to keep shooting 165gr gamekings but in 7-08 looking like I could go 160gr gamekings or 162gr ELD-X.

Hmmmmm. May change it up
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This is what I was wanting.

So 7-08 still good at 20" barrel length?

Also what kind of bbl twist would I need? For .308 I was thinking 1:10 and to keep shooting 165gr gamekings but in 7-08 looking like I could go 160gr gamekings or 162gr ELD-X.

Hmmmmm. May change it up
Given that you aren't planning on trying to kill past 300, you could get away with any barrel length. But for those days you want to be a true Chris Kyle, might as well go with the 20" (or 20' like you mentioned ) to gain a few more fps. I'd go with a 1:10 twist.
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Better BC. By far. 7mm projectiles are much more efficient.
Thatís it. .260 is even better.
But heck, we are splitting hairs.
Same hull.

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dang it, I thought I corrected that. lol
yeah..and when you add a suppressor.. it's gonna feel a little long!
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I second the 7mm-08, for the fact that it is basically the same cartridge with a little smaller diameter bullet. It will give better performance, less recoil, and ammo is readily available as well. This is just based off you liking the 308. The 7mm-08 is the same thing, better version IMO.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:33 PM   #49
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http://www.snipercentral.com/308-win...-62x51mm-nato/

Pretty interesting. There Are plenty of calibers that have better ballistics, but That is not that important especially at 300. There are plenty of other things that make 308 a great choice. One of the best for what you described.IMO The biggest for me is it won’t kick like a mule! (280) Not good in the wind or out of short bbl? Really!
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