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Old 05-08-2019, 09:04 PM   #1
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I did some duck hunting with a friend last year and am now looking for a nice gun to replace the 870 wingmaster that I used. We also did some geese hunting and the wingmaster and 2 3/4 shells just weren't enough for some of those high flyers.

Im looking for a 28" semi auto that can shoot 2 3/4- 3 1/2 shells. Ive been looking at the versamax which comes with 5 chokes and is camo coated with nickel and teflon coatings inside on the moving parts. Buds has them for 1200 and some change. I don't care about the camo coating and would be fine with just a all black shotgun.

Is there a better deal out there on a different gun?
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:17 PM   #2
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I've been shooting a Benelli Super Vinci for the last 7 years without issues. I've shot most of the high-end duck guns out there they all do the job but I trust my Benelli guns after all that I've put them through they keep on shooting. I shoot a Benelli M2 in 3-Gun competition and I couldn't begin to guess how many rounds have been through my guns with literally zero malfunctions.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:21 PM   #3
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I did some duck hunting with a friend last year and am now looking for a nice gun to replace the 870 wingmaster that I used. We also did some geese hunting and the wingmaster and 2 3/4 shells just weren't enough for some of those high flyers.

Im looking for a 28" semi auto that can shoot 2 3/4- 3 1/2 shells. Ive been looking at the versamax which comes with 5 chokes and is camo coated with nickel and teflon coatings inside on the moving parts. Buds has them for 1200 and some change. I don't care about the camo coating and would be fine with just a all black shotgun.

Is there a better deal out there on a different gun?
I have the Versamax with zero issues. Nice gun for the money.
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Old 05-08-2019, 09:55 PM   #4
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Both mentioned above are good guns. If I was going to duck and goose hunt I would look at the Mossberg 935.
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Old 05-08-2019, 10:10 PM   #5
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The one that fits you. Honestly it's the most important aspect of shooting a shotgun consistently. If the gun doesn't fit you then your going to hate shooting it. Look on YouTube for the things to look for so the gun fits you.
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:30 AM   #6
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good shotguns usually begin with the letter "B"
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:36 AM   #7
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The one that fits you. Honestly it's the most important aspect of shooting a shotgun consistently. If the gun doesn't fit you then your going to hate shooting it. Look on YouTube for the things to look for so the gun fits you.


^^this. I always find myself recommending benelli because that’s what I prefer. I’ve had beretta’s and franchi all great guns. But I wind up shooting them a season or 2 and going back to benelli just because I love how they feel to me.
I can say any of those 3 are top notch.


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Old 05-09-2019, 08:37 AM   #8
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Go shoulder a beretta and Benelli and get whichever is more comfortable. But once cry once. It’s worth it
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:46 AM   #9
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Beretta A400 Xtreme or Beretta A350.

Basically this gun exactly...

https://discussions.texasbowhunter.c...highlight=a400
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Old 05-09-2019, 08:58 AM   #10
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good shotguns usually begin with the letter "B"
That's a good rule of thumb.
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Old 05-09-2019, 01:33 PM   #11
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I guess I’ll go to bass pro and touch a few different models to see how they feel. I just have a hard time spending 1600 bucks for anything
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Old 05-09-2019, 01:34 PM   #12
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Both mentioned above are good guns. If I was going to duck and goose hunt I would look at the Mossberg 935.
I have the 930...good guns for 1/3 of the price of the "B" guns
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:28 PM   #13
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Find a good used Beretta A400 or Benelli SBE II or SBE III for around $1000 - $1100.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:34 PM   #14
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If you want to save a little bit, take a look at the Franchi Affinity 3.5. They're made by Benelli in the same factory using Benelli's inertia driven system. I have thousands of rounds through mine without a single issue using 2 3/4" 1 oz loads to heavy waterfowl loads. It also fits me extremely well which is worth a lot in the world of shotguns.
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:42 PM   #15
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And well within his budget
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Old 05-09-2019, 02:46 PM   #16
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Beretta A350.

Don't waste your money on an A400. It's the exact same gun except for the stocks. My buddy that I primarily duck hunt with has two A400's, and I can tell you it's not worth the extra 600 bucks in my opinion.

I've shot almost all the Benelli's, and in my experience duck hunting, the Beretta's seem to function a lot better. The Bennelli's are lighter and feel better in hand compared to my Beretta. However, every single model I've hunted with jams a lot. I've hunted with the super sport, M2, the vinci, the SBE II, and the good ole Nova's. I know some people will debate me on this, but this has been my experience. I want to like them, but they're too picky for me, especially with cheap dove loads. My Beretta A350 will literally shoot any load. It cycles the 3 1/2 as good as the cheapest 2 3/4 dove loads. I've cleaned it once in 3 years.

I have another buddy who has a versa max, reliable, but I prefer that A350.


My 2 cents.

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Old 05-09-2019, 03:22 PM   #17
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Beretta A350.

Don't waste your money on an A400. It's the exact same gun except for the stocks. My buddy that I primarily duck hunt with has two A400's, and I can tell you it's not worth the extra 600 bucks in my opinion.

I've shot almost all the Benelli's, and in my experience duck hunting, the Beretta's seem to function a lot better. The Bennelli's are lighter and feel better in hand compared to my Beretta. However, every single model I've hunted with jams a lot. I've hunted with the super sport, M2, the vinci, the SBE II, and the good ole Nova's. I know some people will debate me on this, but this has been my experience. I want to like them, but they're too picky for me, especially with cheap dove loads. My Beretta A350 will literally shoot any load. It cycles the 3 1/2 as good as the cheapest 2 3/4 dove loads. I've cleaned it once in 3 years.

I have another buddy who has a versa max, reliable, but I prefer that A350.


My 2 cents.

Main differences are going to be the Aqua coating on outside and inside of gun that protects from water/rust, Kickoff system to lessen recoil and i think the A350 doesn't come with all the various chokes. That said, I've shot the A350 several times and they're great. BUT for list price of $999 for the A350, why not just spend an extra $300 or so and get the A400? That was my thought process.

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Old 05-09-2019, 03:24 PM   #18
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And well within his budget
my budget really isnt 1600.00 bucks. id like to keep it at 1000.00.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:28 PM   #19
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my budget really isnt 1600.00 bucks. Id like to keep it at 1000.00.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:56 PM   #20
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my budget really isnt 1600.00 bucks. id like to keep it at 1000.00.
I just saw the $1200 part of your post. If you don't have to have new you can get a nice shotgun used for that or less
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:33 PM   #21
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If you want to save a little bit, take a look at the Franchi Affinity 3.5. They're made by Benelli in the same factory using Benelli's inertia driven system. I have thousands of rounds through mine without a single issue using 2 3/4" 1 oz loads to heavy waterfowl loads. It also fits me extremely well which is worth a lot in the world of shotguns.
I agree with this. I love my affinity.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:33 PM   #22
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Main differences are going to be the Aqua coating on outside and inside of gun that protects from water/rust, Kickoff system to lessen recoil and i think the A350 doesn't come with all the various chokes. That said, I've shot the A350 several times and they're great. BUT for list price of $999 for the A350, why not just spend an extra $300 or so and get the A400? That was my thought process.

That's true about the coating.. If you paid 1400 for a camo a400 I'd like to know where. I've never seen one under 1600. I got my a350 on a black friday deal. I think I paid 900. The a400 next to it was still 1600.

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Old 05-09-2019, 04:39 PM   #23
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Lot of good choices out there but I've had the best luck with Beretta. Hold their value well and it seems like most people hold on to theirs for a long time.

Good luck!
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:58 PM   #24
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If you want to save a little bit, take a look at the Franchi Affinity 3.5. They're made by Benelli in the same factory using Benelli's inertia driven system. I have thousands of rounds through mine without a single issue using 2 3/4" 1 oz loads to heavy waterfowl loads. It also fits me extremely well which is worth a lot in the world of shotguns.
1000%. I grab my franchi over my SBE 2 alot more often than I should. They really have a fine piece of machinery there.

Theres a high faluting custom shop-type edition coming out that I would be all over if I was in your shoes. https://www.franchiusa.com/affinity-elite-shotguns

I bet it'll hit the shelves at just over $1000.
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Old 05-09-2019, 05:43 PM   #25
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Learn how to call and keep shooting your wingmaster.

Beretta 390/391/3901/A300/A350/A400
Winchester SX3/SX4

I like gas guns, but Benelli and Franchi make good inertia guns. Weatherby has a new auto out that is an inertia gun, I think.

I'd buy used.
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Old 05-09-2019, 05:45 PM   #26
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Look at the Chiapas triple crowns. They make a camo one as well. Triple barrels and no plug worries. Haaa. I bought a couple as a novelty and actually really like them. In fact, I left the nice guns in the safe last dove season and shot one exclusively :-) The game warden got a kick out of it when we were checked. I told him I didn't have a plug but only loaded three. :-)
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:20 PM   #27
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I'm partial to Beretta autos, I bought an A300 last year, which hunted hard has been as if not more reliable than my old Benelli M1. If you like the versamax, they make a sportsman model that is black, less fancy stock, not as many chokes, but the same internals, for $800. That or the A350 are both nice for under a grand.

If it comes down to cost, you don't "need" a 3.5 inch gun. If you or anyone else wants one, no judgement here, but if they are too high for 2 3/4" they are probably too high for 3.5". I wouldn't rule out a 3" like a v3, A300, etc if it feels good and the price is right. Handle as many as possible, find which one feels good, and go from there. Have fun with your purchase
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:24 AM   #28
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If it comes down to cost, you don't "need" a 3.5 inch gun. If you or anyone else wants one, no judgement here, but if they are too high for 2 3/4" they are probably too high for 3.5".
Totally agree. I goose hunt with 3 inch #2's all season. No need for the longer shells.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:17 AM   #29
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I have owned a bunch of 3.5" guns and don't buy them anymore. There is no real benefit and I had more reliability problems with my 3.5" guns than I have with 3" guns. I've primarily shot Beretta, Benelli, Browning and Winchester shotguns. The 3" guns have been more dependable and less fickle. I don't think 3.5" shells are a real benefit anyway. You can bump yourself up to a nicer gun for the same money if you buy a 3".
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:25 AM   #30
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A400 extreme is what I have. Hard to go wrong there.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:34 AM   #31
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For waterfowl,I'd just stick with a pump gun, 870 3 1/2", or a Mossberg. Spend some of the leftover money on shells, and kill as many birds as anyone else....Use the high end guns for upland game/birds, and targets.
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:14 PM   #32
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No need to spend your money on 3.5" loads or a shotgun that shoots them. They are purely overkill and was a waste of my money IMO and experience. I spent 18 years chasing those suckers and they were just not needed. I bought a Benelli SBE way back when and can count on one hand how many boxes of 3.5" I shot through it in all the years I owned it. Averaging 1.5-2 cases of 3" steel a year, that's not very many 3.5" shells. Most of the guys I hunted with and hung around with had 3.5” guns too and all ran 3” shells.

Get you a Beretta A300 or a Benelli M2/ Vinci...save your money, your shoulder and never have to deal with any issues a 3.5" receiver can occasionally brings with lighter clay loads. If I had it to do all over again, I would have bought the Benelli M-1 with a 3" chamber but I had to have the 3.5" cool cub gun. Now I shoot a Benelli M1 20ga at ducks, geese (although it has been a few years) and turkey that hammers them so you know those 12ga 3.5" roman candles are overkill. That 12 ga 3" load patterned better for me than the 3.5 as well and costs less to shoot. It's a no brainer.

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Old 05-10-2019, 03:22 PM   #33
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I love my franchi and would buy another in a heartbeat. A buddy of mine was in the market and he shot mine then bought one too. Great guns at a great price. I abuse it and it eats everything.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:45 PM   #34
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i'd shoot an O/U before i shot a pump again. just my opinion. CZ makes some nice O/U that are camo'd out in your price range.

Cabelas has a great online gun library and will ship any gun from store to store for $25 so if you find a gun you like just have it shipped to the nearest store. I would imagine if you buy it they will ship to any FFL dealer.

As far as 3 or 3.5 - i have shot a lot of ducks with both and can see the arguments to both sides. however 3.5" #3's knock the **** out of ducks. For dove and skeet loads you have to shoot premium 1 1/8 oz shells like winchesters AA's or Rios. Economical 12ga shells will leave you cussing. If its a gas operated gun recoil is not that bad with any shell.

Generally the 3 B's are what you are looking for. I have shot a Browning Gold Hunter almost 20 years and have been very happy with it.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:56 PM   #35
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:06 PM   #36
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A newer one on the market that a lot of guys I know are starting to use is retay. It's an inertia driven gun. Only knock is its light and may kick a little more than some. But would be something to look at.
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Old 05-10-2019, 08:12 PM   #37
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Shot a many of ducks with a cheap-o shotgun-Mossberg 835 with 3 inch shells. Bought it back in the day for $225.00. No need to sky bust them suckers, you want the wings cup and feet almost on the water.
I do not like 3.5 inch shells, they rattle my insides.
That Remington has killed more birds than any other shotgun on the market.
On the other hand those nice shotguns are sure nice, Beretta’s are my choice but heard the Benelli’s are just as good-never shot one.
Good luck on your fine. There’s a lot of options out there.
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Old 06-21-2019, 01:34 PM   #38
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Ended up getting a Stoeger 3500 Waterfowl Edition got it for 792.00 after discounts and free shipping

https://www.eurooptic.com/Stoeger-M3...n-3.aspxdition
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