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Old 06-28-2019, 06:11 PM   #1
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Never had this. What is it and how to kill it

Was told maybe foxtail or yellow bristle grass

2-4d did not touch it

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Old 06-28-2019, 06:16 PM   #2
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Producers coop thought GLY would only turn it yellow


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Old 06-28-2019, 06:19 PM   #3
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Its a grass. Roundup should get it.
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:31 PM   #4
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Forgot. Need to not hurt the Bermuda.


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Old 06-28-2019, 06:41 PM   #5
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looks like it could be the same thing I have in a hay meadow. Was told by local herbiced/fertilizer outfit that it is a “cousin”of Dallis grass.
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:44 PM   #6
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Now that I look back at your pictures, the seed head doesn’t fork out the same as what I have and dallis grass. Unless your pics are before it would have happened

Maybe it’s a second cousin...
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:48 PM   #7
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Sure it’s not behia grass ? Seed head kinda looks like it. If you had better pics of the roots.....

Try MSMA, that might kill it and won’t hurt bermuda. Also, a weak gly solution won’t kill established bermuda. Bermuda is pretty dang tough.

I looked at it again, it doesn’t appear to be behia.
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Old 06-28-2019, 06:51 PM   #8
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Pastora or MSMA with a good sticker
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Old 06-28-2019, 07:08 PM   #9
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It will laugh at pastora. Don’t waste your money super expensive. I read MSMA will work But not until later when it is preparing for dormancy. I haven’t tried that yet.
I tried GLY immediately after first frost last year when Bermuda went dormant while this stuff was still green. It helped a little.
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Old 06-28-2019, 07:33 PM   #10
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Msma was used in last spray of grazon p+d

I think my only solution is GLY. Just need to decide how much per acre.

Takes a lot of that to kill Bermuda



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Old 06-28-2019, 08:33 PM   #11
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Probably something that was brought over from the border
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Old 06-28-2019, 08:52 PM   #12
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The first thing is to find out exactly what it is, then find a herbicide that will kill it and not harm the bermuda. Thereís an app called Pl@ntNet that has worked for me a few times. Take a pic of the plant and it gives you the ID. Maybe
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:10 PM   #13
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Bahia , you need Ally. MSMA won’t hurt it. If you really dislike a man sprinkle some Bahaia seeds in his ditch.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:15 PM   #14
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You might check the plateau label. It’s a good grass herbicide. Also, MSMA is not labeled for anything to graze on it. The A is arsenate. No one wants that in the food supply.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:54 PM   #15
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Bahia , you need Ally. MSMA wonít hurt it. If you really dislike a man sprinkle some Bahaia seeds in his ditch.
It looks like Bahia to me. I hate that stuff.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:59 PM   #16
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I don't know what it is, but I am certain it's NOT Bahia.
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Old 06-29-2019, 01:02 AM   #17
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Its not Bahia....it actually looks like Crabgrass, kinda
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Old 06-29-2019, 05:31 AM   #18
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I know it is not Bahia and not crabgrass.

I'm going with a kind of foxtail and spraying for that.
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Old 06-29-2019, 06:54 AM   #19
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Wintergrass?
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Old 06-29-2019, 10:21 AM   #20
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Johnson grass?
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Old 06-29-2019, 11:01 AM   #21
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Calling Dr. ELGATO
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Old 06-29-2019, 12:00 PM   #22
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Johnson grass?
Kinda what I thought to, Johnson grass has a different head on it though. I have gotten to where I call all of these new stalky noxious weeds Johnson grass though, they are all terrible.
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Old 06-29-2019, 07:05 PM   #23
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I cant find anything. Maybe Johnson grass of some type. Extension Agency should be able to find out.
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Old 06-29-2019, 07:08 PM   #24
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Texas spear grass maybe?
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Old 06-30-2019, 10:39 AM   #25
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Kinda looks like buffel grass that hasn't seeded out yet, or matured, however you would say it?

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Old 06-30-2019, 10:42 AM   #26
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https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/buffelgrass/

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Old 06-30-2019, 11:23 AM   #27
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https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/buffelgrass/

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That is as close as I have seen... I did send pictures to my local ag agent.

Says Roundup should work.
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Old 06-30-2019, 11:29 AM   #28
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That is as close as I have seen... I did send pictures to my local ag agent.



Says Roundup should work.
Let us know if you find out what it is for sure.

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Old 06-30-2019, 12:04 PM   #29
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Actually I think its silver bluestem. I just saw this and some of the heads have already seeded and some haven't which match yours?



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Old 06-30-2019, 12:14 PM   #30
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Definitely resembles a type of bluestem
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If it’s bluestem I think dicamba will kill it.
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Old 06-30-2019, 02:59 PM   #32
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This is about 12 inches give or take. Someone at the Coop mentioned bluestem but the Cooper people did not think so??

Not sure I'm going to spray the hay field with anything else.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:07 PM   #33
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Sure itís not behia grass ? Seed head kinda looks like it. If you had better pics of the roots.....

Try MSMA, that might kill it and wonít hurt bermuda. Also, a weak gly solution wonít kill established bermuda. Bermuda is pretty dang tough.

I looked at it again, it doesnít appear to be behia.
Yep. A weaker mix of roundup will kill grass burs in established bermuda, and not kill the bermuda.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:09 PM   #34
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That is as close as I have seen... I did send pictures to my local ag agent.

Says Roundup should work.
I don't think it's buffelgrass.
Maybe a kind of bristlegrass.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:28 PM   #35
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Wintergrass?
That stuff has the "dart" seeds.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:32 PM   #36
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:37 PM   #37
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K R Bluestem
Wrong kind of seed head fro King Ranch blue.
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Old 06-30-2019, 03:43 PM   #38
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I don't think it's buffelgrass.
Maybe a kind of bristlegrass.
Coop mentioned bristlegrass…

I think it really needs a pre emergent in the spring.

I have my doubts that roundup will do anything.

The label I read on Dicamba said a 37 day wait to harvest. Will have to go back when I have more time.

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Old 06-30-2019, 08:14 PM   #39
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Looks like Setaria glauca or Setaria viridis to me. Both are introduced bristlegrasses. Are they too dense to spot treat with glyphosate?
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Old 06-30-2019, 08:28 PM   #40
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this might be helpful

https://secure.caes.uga.edu/extensio...B%201464_1.PDF
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Old 07-01-2019, 07:15 PM   #41
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[QUOTE=duckboy007;14223249]Looks like Setaria glauca or Setaria viridis to me. Both are introduced bristlegrasses. Are they too dense to spot treat with glyphosate?[/QUOTE

I sprayed the entire front field and spot spayed the back field.

I looked they are starting to turn yellow at the bottom.

I do not hay a lot of acres so try and get the best quality to sell as horse hay.
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Old 07-01-2019, 08:07 PM   #42
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Klein grass?
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Old 07-02-2019, 05:53 PM   #43
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Seeing signs of it and some crab grass starting to turn yellow....
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Old 07-02-2019, 07:46 PM   #44
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First, it's a bunch grass. It is also an annual which means when it drops those 100 of seeds, you will have a problem.

How much of it do you have? Is it just a few? Can you just pull them up? I have some and that's what I do before the seeds are ready to drop.

You can drip a rag in glyposate and wipe it on the plant for sure to kill it. Make it easy by using a small rag on a stiff wire. Dab here, dab there.
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Old 07-02-2019, 08:30 PM   #45
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Thanks

A lot so I sprayed. I have the stuff to make a large weed wipe just have not done it.

I was told I needed to do a preemergent next year...

If I get another cut I'll have to spray sooner..
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I Have the same stuff. Definitely not Bahia. Cimmaron wont touch it. I was told maybe barnyard something??
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