Seriously, what is going on?

[Playa]

Texas isnt California.

Nope but federal law is federal law and the libs won’t let this be optional like pot laws and immigration

[systemnt]

Nope but federal law is federal law and the libs won’t let this be optional like pot laws and immigration

Libs might not... but majority of Texas residents arent likely to sit passive and be disarmed so easily.

Feds will think long and hard on how hard pressed they are to have repeats of waco at every house hold.

[ttechdallas]

Of course there was. He made terroristic threats on the book of faces. He even said he was going to shoot up a school. He could have been arrested on several occasions, and been submitted to NICS.

Maybe so. But this is what we do with any effort to address the frequency of gun violence in general as well as the increasing number of victims from mass shootings (note I did not say increased number of mass shootings). We resist and the more reasoned the argument for - as opposed to some of the left wing whacko arguments - the more we jump straight to the argument that we have to fight it because it is really part of a veiled plan to take our guns away.

We fight everything and that has probably done as much to sway pubic opinion more unfavorably toward gun owners and ownership than the actual shootings. And that may present a greater threat to 2nd amendment rights than anything.

[Kingfisher789]

If this passes, i suggest we start a list of people to whom this law should be immediately applied, because they are indeed a danger to themselves and others:

Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Diane Fienstein, the entire Clinton family, Rosie O'Donnell, all the Illinois politicians, anyone in Massachussetts named Kennedy, any attendee to any Antifa event, anyone with a DUI conviction, anyone with visible gang tattoos, anyone with Pitbulls, anyone with cars that won't pass inspection, and people who sneeze in public without covering their face.

See how this goes?

I'm screwed.....;(

[fulmer34]

So what's our course of action here? Y'all are busy debating what-ifs and theories. How do we get this stopped? NRA ain't likely to help, you think our senators and congressmen will block it? I know one senator will vote against one for, and my congressman is as spineless as Cornyn. So what can we do before we have to run come and take it up the flag pole?

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[Smell the Glove]

“**** dirty apes!” That’s what Charlton Heston would be saying about the NRA’s support of this legislation.




Careful, Smell the Glove, online stalking is probably edging towards “mentally ill” (especially stalking J Sweet) and lead to the confiscation of your weapons.

That isn't stalking, I think those are just the one's that are still on this front page

[Playa]

Maybe so. But this is what we do with any effort to address the frequency of gun violence in general as well as the increasing number of victims from mass shootings (note I did not say increased number of mass shootings). We resist and the more reasoned the argument for - as opposed to some of the left wing whacko arguments - the more we jump straight to the argument that we have to fight it because it is really part of a veiled plan to take our guns away.

We fight everything and that has probably done as much to sway pubic opinion more unfavorably toward gun owners and ownership than the actual shootings. And that may present a greater threat to 2nd amendment rights than anything.

Your question has been answered, are you going to continue to ask it from different angles until you get the answer you want?

[ttechdallas]

Your question has been answered, are you going to continue to wake it from different angles until you get the answer you want?

It hasn't been answered because the Florida shooting is just one example. Did you actually read what was proposed that the NRA supported? Do you really think our local law government and and law enforcement officers are going to systematically seek court orders, present to a judge, and try to take people's guns away one by one? Not going to happen.

[Ironman]

It hasn't been answered because the Florida shooting is just one example. Did you actually read what was proposed that the NRA supported? Do you really think our local law government and and law enforcement officers are going to systematically seek court orders, present to a judge, and try to take people's guns away one by one? Not going to happen.

The point is, we don't need such laws passed where they can.

[Playa]

It hasn't been answered because the Florida shooting is just one example. Did you actually read what was proposed that the NRA supported? Do you really think our local law government and and law enforcement officers are going to systematically seek court orders, present to a judge, and try to take people's guns away one by one? Not going to happen.

Correct we already have adequate laws on the books that already are not being enforced at all levels. Maybe you haven’t been paying attention but our local law enforcement agencies have been achieving a level of militarization. They aren’t just rolling in crown vic’s And toting 38 specials any longer

[Shinesintx]

Maybe I am just naive but I do not buy into the assumption or assumptions upon assumptions that every proposed gun control regulation is a tactical step in the overall strategy of reversing the 2nd amendment.

With that said, how do we enable law enforcement to prevent a mass shooting or potential terrorist attack without such a regulatory change as described above? For all the blame put on law enforcement for the many visits to the Florida school shooter's home, there was nothing they could really do. This would have given them that option. Same with the Orlando nightclub terrorist shooting. Might the shootings have still happened? Maybe. But if the police come in take your guns away on the basis of court order which explains why, that is going to be mighty big deterrent. And it puts the authorities in much better position to watch what that individual is doing.

Dang, you actually trust the government/authorities to do what is right?

Waco, Broward Co Sheriff Dept, DOJ gun running, FISA court...thismis who you put your faith in?

[ttechdallas]

5-10 more years of fighting every single proposed change, no matter how reasonable, on the basis of they're going to take our guns away will do nothing but shift public opinion against gun owners and make it easier to pass more stringent gun control laws.

There is no way the government can disarm citizens without starting a civil war. There is no way an administration could even plan a disarmament without tipping its hat to those within our own government, including those in the military, who would fight it.

[Ironman]

5-10 more years of fighting every single proposed change, no matter how reasonable, on the basis of they're going to take our guns away will do nothing but shift public opinion against gun owners and make it easier to pass more stringent gun control laws.

There is no way the government can disarm citizens without starting a civil war. There is no way an administration could even plan a disarmament without tipping its hat to those within our own government, including those in the military, who would fight it.

We fight every single proposed change because the second amendment has but so many words, and means just one thing. "Shall not be infringed."

[Mike D]

5-10 more years of fighting every single proposed change, no matter how reasonable, on the basis of they're going to take our guns away will do nothing but shift public opinion against gun owners and make it easier to pass more stringent gun control laws.

There is no way the government can disarm citizens without starting a civil war. There is no way an administration could even plan a disarmament without tipping its hat to those within our own government, including those in the military, who would fight it.

They are going to use every angle to systematically over time disarm the US. If you can’t see that you are a fool.

Do you think the founders would have capitulated to such ridiculous propositions?


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[Playa]

5-10 more years of fighting every single proposed change, no matter how reasonable, on the basis of they're going to take our guns away will do nothing but shift public opinion against gun owners and make it easier to pass more stringent gun control laws.

There is no way the government can disarm citizens without starting a civil war. There is no way an administration could even plan a disarmament without tipping its hat to those within our own government, including those in the military, who would fight it.

I won’t supoort,today or any day, any legislation that paves the way for confiscation of guns without due process and or leaves the sole arbiter of sanity to the government. What I will support is the full compliance of of current gun laws. Currently there are 35 states plus federal agencies (ie Military) that do not report, in part or in whole, offenses that should be in NICS that would deny the retail sale of guns to those who have chosen to break laws that should strip them of certain rights.