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Old 10-26-2018, 07:32 AM   #1
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I have had my 2015 chevy diesel 4x4 for 2 1/2 years and I really haven't had it in much mud. This past week I drove it through a little mud and it seemed really disappointing. I hit the mud pretty slow(5mph). It was only 8-10 inches deep so I wan't concerned. As I drove into it, it seemed like my truck was slowing to a stop. I was standing on the gas pedal (to the floor) to try to get through it and I never had the engine rev up and it never spun the wheels. It just ran at about 1500-1800 RPM and about 2mph and crawled through it. Yes I didn't get stuck, but I expected it to rev up and spin the tires or something. Since then, I have gone through the mud 3-4 more times to see what is going on. Once it did rev the engine up and spin the tires and throw mud everywhere another time it just crawled through it at 1500rpm. This was in 4wheel high and the transmission in Drive.

Is something going on or is this normal? I have always had gas 4x4 chevy trucks and when I floored it, It would rev that rpm and spin the wheels throwing mud everywhere.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:35 AM   #2
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Turn tractor control off, have a tundra and it’s an act of Congress to get all the safety features turn off.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:36 AM   #3
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Turn the traction control off. It’s keeps the motor from breaking the tires loose! As a 8 year Duramax owner tho I do have to say that they r terrible in mud!
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:50 AM   #4
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Diesel trucks do horrible in mud, the big heavy engine sinks the front end deep.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:52 AM   #5
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All heavy diesel trucks kinda suck in mud in my opinion. Way to heavy. Kinda like taking them down the surf. They will get there but you gotta pay attention. It’s not like running PINS in a jeep
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:02 AM   #6
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Diesel trucks do horrible in mud, the big heavy engine sinks the front end deep.
Thats a AMEN ....Beach too
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:03 AM   #7
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Diesel trucks aren’t really made for the mud. They are big and way too heavy in the front end
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Switch on far left. Turn it off then you can throw mud everywhere.


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Old 10-26-2018, 08:07 AM   #9
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Thanks guys. I would rather feel like an idiot here and ask a question then go to the dealer and ask a dumb question.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:11 AM   #10
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Also manually shift into 2nd or 3rd gear. Less spinning.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:31 AM   #11
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Diesel trucks do horrible in mud, the big heavy engine sinks the front end deep.
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Diesel trucks arenít really made for the mud. They are big and way too heavy in the front end
This. Diesels are meant for pulling.

Also, the few times I have run a Chevy diesel through mud, it liked to break the front U-joints, under almost no throttle. It was scary how easy it was to do.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:39 AM   #12
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My F350, all you have to say is mud/ wet grass and it wants to get stuck.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:15 AM   #13
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Default Chevy diesel 4x4 in mud

My dodge loved the mud! Iíve got pictures somewhere of my pulling a 20ft gooseneck with a protein feeder and skid steer through 3 foot of mud at the deer lease. Went full send on it and she never missed a beat! I miss that truck!

My new duramax, itís a 17í is the worse truck Iíve ever had in the mud. Got stuck in 6 inches of mud the other day in my back yard! Granted, I do have grandpa tires on her!


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Old 10-26-2018, 09:26 AM   #14
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tires make a huge difference in mud.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:28 AM   #15
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deseils plow in da mud
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:31 AM   #16
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Yep like above said, diesels are heavy but ford and dodge are better in deep mud, and tires make a big difference.
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Old 10-26-2018, 09:32 AM   #17
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My 16 is good with the traction control off. Almost got stuck when I didn’t have the traction control off. I learned the same lesson.
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:27 PM   #18
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All of those great features will cause you to bury your truck in some really bad, remote spots. A few years ago, I had to pull two 3/4 ton Chevy 4x4's that my Navajo Game Warden Buddys were driving. These pickups had the traction control.
Surprising thing was I did it with my Ford Ranger and a long jerk line.
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:54 PM   #19
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Speaking from Ford diesel experience, tires make all the difference between a diesel totally sucking in mud and kinda sucking in mud....and all terrains lean more toward totally sucking than kinda sucking.


Look at the Dodge a few posts up with the more aggressive mud shedding tires. No wonder it's owner does well in the mud

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Old 10-26-2018, 02:15 PM   #20
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You can turn off the stabiltrac off as well if you hold down on the traction control buttom.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:33 PM   #21
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The two 3/4 tons I pulled out were the gassers.
One of my lion hunting buddies from Montana purchased a new Tacoma and it took him several tries to shut the computer off so that we could get out of a snow bank. On the second jackpot, we never could get the computer to shut down so that we could get any power and I had to pull him out.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:45 PM   #22
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My one ton Duramax bites in the mud. Even with the traction control off.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:51 PM   #23
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Nearly got in a few binds in utah last week. 4x4 long bed crew cab duramax with highway tires. Go down roads that were frozen in the morning and try to leave that evening after they thawed. Hitting the traction control button for 10 seconds to turn off traction control and stabilitrak helped. But in the end we had to run chains on all 4 tires.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:58 PM   #24
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Yep. Traction control. I thought my truck was broken first time I hit mud in it.
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:36 PM   #25
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It takes serious mud tires to make a diesel barely ok in the mud!!!!!
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:12 PM   #26
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The two 3/4 tons I pulled out were the gassers.
One of my lion hunting buddies from Montana purchased a new Tacoma and it took him several tries to shut the computer off so that we could get out of a snow bank. On the second jackpot, we never could get the computer to shut down so that we could get any power and I had to pull him out.
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A tip for the future. Depending on the make of the vehicle, you can pull the fuse for the ABS/VSC/ESC/RSC and it'll completely disable traction control. BUT do so at you're own risk.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:17 PM   #27
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Nearly got in a few binds in utah last week. 4x4 long bed crew cab duramax with highway tires. Go down roads that were frozen in the morning and try to leave that evening after they thawed. Hitting the traction control button for 10 seconds to turn off traction control and stabilitrak helped. But in the end we had to run chains on all 4 tires.
On pretty much every vehicle the traction control stays off once you press the switch. When you hold it it'll disable stability control and the other stuff. BUT when you go over 35-45 MPH it automatically enables stability control again. Only way to fully disable is removing fuses or wiring in a switch to the fuse to shut it off and on easier. Or have a tune written to disable it.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:31 PM   #28
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Yep turn off traction control. Have to do it everyday here lately.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:59 PM   #29
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If you want all the power, all the time, in a newer duramax you have to get to get it deleted and tuned. The stock computer settings only lets you use all the power when your pulling a trailer. My buddy got stuck out by the lake and had the same problem as what the OP described. If you know your going to be in a lot of mud I would get you a set of tire chains that will turn your street tire into a super swamper pretty much.
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Old 10-26-2018, 07:53 PM   #30
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On pretty much every vehicle the traction control stays off once you press the switch. When you hold it it'll disable stability control and the other stuff. BUT when you go over 35-45 MPH it automatically enables stability control again. Only way to fully disable is removing fuses or wiring in a switch to the fuse to shut it off and on easier. Or have a tune written to disable it.
They just released tunes for this truck a couple of weeks ago way too expensive for the time being. As far as putting a switcher pulling these fuse I havenr seen anyone try it with the 17+ duramax. I think I'm stuck with it re enabling at speed for the time being.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:36 PM   #31
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I hate my 2015 Duramax in mud. Got stuck today and not even buried. Just slick. Other wise I love it.
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Old 10-26-2018, 08:54 PM   #32
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When you hit the button to turn off the traction control be sure to hold it down for awhile, it’ll turn off the traction control and the stabilitrak. Turn those off and that baby will eat!!
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Old 10-26-2018, 11:33 PM   #33
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Diesel trucks do horrible in mud, the big heavy engine sinks the front end deep.
Yep. I have told guys about this for years. They don't believe me, until their truck is buried deep. Then I have to remind them, I told them it would do that.
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This. Oops. Happened to me today.



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Old 10-27-2018, 01:42 AM   #35
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:27 PM   #36
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You can turn off the stabiltrac off as well if you hold down on the traction control buttom.
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Old 10-27-2018, 01:30 PM   #37
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A tip for the future. Depending on the make of the vehicle, you can pull the fuse for the ABS/VSC/ESC/RSC and it'll completely disable traction control. BUT do so at you're own risk.
We did this on a few big diesels at work. They went from being stuck all the time to throwing roostertails .

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Old 10-27-2018, 07:45 PM   #38
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Dang! Was there a couple days ago in my Chevy 4x4. That was after pulling out my Mule Pro FXR. And that happened after pulling out my Tacoma. Need some wind to dry this water out on our place. Itís a bit sloppy.
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Old 10-28-2018, 11:00 PM   #39
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Traction Control got me. The new Michelinís didnít help either.



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Old 10-29-2018, 06:36 AM   #40
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I want to see that 3’ of mud the dodge guy claims he pulled a gooseneck through. That would be over the wheel wells...
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What would be a good tire that would make a diesel better in mud, but not be crazy loud going down the road. My diesel turned into a daily driver this past week due to my daily driver going under a F250. I need to upgrade the tires, but I want to talk to the passengers while driving.
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:01 AM   #42
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What would be a good tire that would make a diesel better in mud, but not be crazy loud going down the road. My diesel turned into a daily driver this past week due to my daily driver going under a F250. I need to upgrade the tires, but I want to talk to the passengers while driving.
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:14 AM   #43
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I nearly burried mine this weekend. I was really worried and i dont get worried alot. 4 low w the trailer attached and i made it out of everything i got myself into. Found a dry spot parked the truck and unloaded the ranger. Im not about to get stuck if i dont have to.
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I want to see that 3í of mud the dodge guy claims he pulled a gooseneck through. That would be over the wheel wells...
That made me lol, ainít no way. I went thru a foot of mud in Laredo last year and had to drive 55mph or so back to San Antonio. There was so much mud caked on the inside of the rims it threw the balance off.
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Old 10-29-2018, 07:26 AM   #45
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Toyo R/T
Iím running R/Ts on my 350. I made it through a few nasty roads I wouldíve preferred not have been on with ease last week. It does pretty decent for a 9000 lb rig. The Michelinís would have been stuck ASAP.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:12 AM   #46
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Maybe a stupid question, but here goes... If you had two new tires that had a pretty aggressive tread and two that were getting kind of worn out, where would you want the good and bad ones on your heavy diesel (front/back)?
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:18 AM   #47
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Maybe a stupid question, but here goes... If you had two new tires that had a pretty aggressive tread and two that were getting kind of worn out, where would you want the good and bad ones on your heavy diesel (front/back)?
You need to make sure both of your rear tires are the same tread depth, can become a safety issue if they are not...learned this the hard way in the early 90's.
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:22 AM   #48
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I want to see that 3í of mud the dodge guy claims he pulled a gooseneck through. That would be over the wheel wells...
Well, I'm sure it was "give or take".
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:39 AM   #49
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I want to see that 3í of mud the dodge guy claims he pulled a gooseneck through. That would be over the wheel wells...
that's how you know he is telling the truth about being in a dodge....probably rolling coal with a straight exhaust and a ball sac hanging off the back
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Old 10-29-2018, 10:43 AM   #50
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that's how you know he is telling the truth about being in a dodge....probably rolling coal with a straight exhaust and a ball sac hanging off the back
The mud looks deeper when you mirrors all stuck all the way out...
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