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Old 09-17-2018, 10:06 AM   #1
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I live in Grimes County. The fall army worms this year are freakin' crazy. It's like nothing kills them. I tried Sevin concentrate but it seems like that didn't really work. I need some suggestions please
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They are in Flower Mound too. I used Spectricide in the bottle that attaches to the hose for my yard.
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They are in Flower Mound too. I used Spectricide in the bottle that attaches to the hose for my yard.
Did it work?
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I’ve been battling since May. I’ve sprayed everything minimum 3 times. About to start 4th here at the dairy. I kill the &$&% out of them.... then we get 3/10 rain and start over again. Every blade of grass we own has had them in the past week

Lamb-cy will kill them... but I’ll warn you that stuff is ROUGH! I won’t even handle it anymore

It’s technically not on label.... so I would never use it, cough cough wink but bifen 24% @ 4oz per acre will kill them... I’ve heard cough cough. Fanfare EC

Last 3 years something has changed. I always had them this time of year, but now I battle them literally all dang year. Those that have planted fall plots early are playing with fire in my area. Most will be destroyed before they ever knew they had them
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We have them bad in South Brazos County.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:23 AM   #6
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Did it work?
Seemed to immediately but I think some from the field next door are making their way over. I canít spray the entire neighborhood.
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Mills County has them
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Lamb-cy will kill them... but Iíll warn you that stuff is ROUGH! I wonít even handle it anymore
I have sprayed Lambda once back in August, and I am checking my pastures everyday incase they pop back up.

I just bought 2 new gallon jugs, and you can smell it through the jug!
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Thry are thick at our place in Austin county right now. Didnt notice them until my wife pointed them out Friday and they done killed half my yard and wiped out about 3 acres in the pasture. Nothing but twigs now and a dang worm on every one. Those things are the devil...


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Old 09-17-2018, 10:38 AM   #10
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I've sprayed permethrin (sp) on them with my boom sprayer this year already with success in Wilson county.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:40 AM   #11
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They are brutal. I have a large market garden. I've kept them at bay with insecticidal soap and neem oil. Around the plots I sprayed the Sevin.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:41 AM   #12
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Sniper will smoke them
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:42 AM   #13
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Dealing with them today. Lambda is the way to go.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:50 AM   #14
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Dealing with them today. Lambda is the way to go.
Does that Lambda kill at all stages of growth? Was reading that some insecticides only kill when the worm is less than 3/4 inch.
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Old 09-17-2018, 10:54 AM   #15
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Lost my plots last year in Eastland County. First time in 14 years I’ve had them. Planted 10 acres yesterday. Keeping my fingers crossed that they won’t come back.
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I live in Navasota in grimes county. I came home from the lease yesterday to find my yard black with army worms. I used spectracide water hose attachment and I sprayed my whole yard along with parts of my neighbors. Woke up this morning and walked the yard to find zero worms. Hopefully that will keep them at bay. If not I have a gallon of concentrate ready to go if they show back up. What worries me is my neighbors back yard is not kept up and full of them. They are crawling up the neighbors house they are so thick.

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I live in Navasota in grimes county. I came home from the lease yesterday to find my yard black with army worms. I used spectracide water hose attachment and I sprayed my whole yard along with parts of my neighbors. Woke up this morning and walked the yard to find zero worms. Hopefully that will keep them at bay.
I did something similar the otherday. IN the early to mid afternoon they climb on the grass, morning they are gone but come back in the afternoon. Keep an eye out.
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:08 AM   #18
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I am planting this Thursday in far Western Young County. Yall are making me nervous.
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Does that Lambda kill at all stages of growth? Was reading that some insecticides only kill when the worm is less than 3/4 inch.
lamb-cy will kill all stages as well as grasshopper. But Iím telling ya I canít touch an unopened jug without burning. Itís bad stuff

Demlin (sp?) has a 21 day residual if no rain but it only kills small.

Bifen cost about $2.30 an acre and has about 7-9 days residual unless it rains
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We have them bad in Leon County.
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Old 09-17-2018, 11:19 AM   #21
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lamb-cy will kill all stages as well as grasshopper. But Iím telling ya I canít touch an unopened jug without burning. Itís bad stuff

Demlin (sp?) has a 21 day residual if no rain but it only kills small.

Bifen cost about $2.30 an acre and has about 7-9 days residual unless it rains
Sounds like some nasty poison
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They are BAD in upshur county. I work for the city and I'm sitting here looking at thousands right now eating away
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Fall army worms are always bad after a rain.

Knock on wood - or my poor, dry pastures - I haven't seen them ------ yet. I think I'll pick up some Lamda or Permethrin today and get my sprayer ready.
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They are BAD in upshur county. I work for the city and I'm sitting here looking at thousands right now eating away
I emailed our county extension office to see what they recommend. I'm assuming they will recommend a higher budget.
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Fall army worms are always bad after a rain.

Knock on wood - or my poor, dry pastures - I haven't seen them ------ yet. I think I'll pick up some Lamda or Permethrin today and get my sprayer ready.
Last year after Harvey we didn't see them at all - at least where I'm at. However, this year we had about 7 weeks of drought; the rain hit and then boom
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Why not ask Producers Co-Op what they recommend? They are usually ahead of everyone else on new pesticides.
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Good idea
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Spraying 150 acres today with Tombstone. Expensive but it kills and maintains a residual. Seems like it is a day to day battle in East Texas. Probably the worst break out we have seen since the 80s
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They recommend Lambda
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lamb-cy will kill all stages as well as grasshopper. But Iím telling ya I canít touch an unopened jug without burning. Itís bad stuff

Demlin (sp?) has a 21 day residual if no rain but it only kills small.

Bifen cost about $2.30 an acre and has about 7-9 days residual unless it rains
Yes sir. Cab Tractor or SxS are a must. Burn for a couple days around the eyes, hands, sensitive skin areas if not using proper PPE.
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I use Tombstone and Demlin mixed 2.5OZ per acre of each. once i spray i dont have any problems.
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Yes sir. Cab Tractor or SxS are a must. Burn for a couple days around the eyes, hands, sensitive skin areas if not using proper PPE.
Iím in a cab with $800 worth of cabin filters and canít be near it. Sooo many safer and better options for me. But it will kill em
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Yes sir. Cab Tractor or SxS are a must. Burn for a couple days around the eyes, hands, sensitive skin areas if not using proper PPE.
Are you getting it on your or just the vapors are burning you? I have only mixed 3 tanks (500 gal each) so far, and I haven't had any issues. I try my hardest to never get any chemical on me, so maybe that is the issue.
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Wow...that's crazy!
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New jugs, sealed, in boxes.... within 2 minuets feels like a bad sunburn. As soon as I opening pour in tank... game over, Id rather catch fire
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Are you getting it on your or just the vapors are burning you? I have only mixed 3 tanks (500 gal each) so far, and I haven't had any issues. I try my hardest to never get any chemical on me, so maybe that is the issue.
First time I used it yes I got it on me. Cabless tractor and wind shifted when I turned. It hit me and the rest of the day felt like I had Icy Hot all over my face and arms.

Neighbors are out spraying now.
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New jugs, sealed, in boxes.... within 2 minuets feels like a bad sunburn. As soon as I opening pour in tank... game over, Id rather catch fire
Just handling the one jug this morning I can feel a little burn from it. I hate the stuff. End of my nose is pretty sensitive right now.
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Iíve been battling since May. Iíve sprayed everything minimum 3 times. About to start 4th here at the dairy. I kill the &$&% out of them.... then we get 3/10 rain and start over again. Every blade of grass we own has had them in the past week

Lamb-cy will kill them... but Iíll warn you that stuff is ROUGH! I wonít even handle it anymore

Itís technically not on label.... so I would never use it, cough cough wink but bifen 24% @ 4oz per acre will kill them... Iíve heard cough cough. Fanfare EC

Last 3 years something has changed. I always had them this time of year, but now I battle them literally all dang year. Those that have planted fall plots early are playing with fire in my area. Most will be destroyed before they ever knew they had them
Theyíre just little worms. At least the worms I kill are a lot bigger and have teeth and can kill a man.
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We use lambda, its restricted but that stuff works. Getting ready for our 4th go around with these dang things. We are in smith county and they are the worst I have ever seen them, so bad most places are just completely out of spray and as soon as they restock its gone again. Haven't had rain all year to amount to anything, finally get the rain and the worms eat it faster than you can spray them.
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We use lambda, its restricted but that stuff works. Getting ready for our 4th go around with these dang things. We are in smith county and they are the worst I have ever seen them, so bad most places are just completely out of spray and as soon as they restock its gone again. Haven't had rain all year to amount to anything, finally get the rain and the worms eat it faster than you can spray them.
Red river in Tyler had several pallets in today. Just in before we got there this morning. I sprayed minimum 1000 gallons a day last week some days 1200-1500. Looking about the same this week. I’m on tank 2 today

Not lambda thought... the “other” stuff
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So I sprayed at about 1240pm yesterday afternoon. I checked again a few minutes ago and no stragglers, but I will check again this afternoon.
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:49 PM   #46
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700 gallons so far today... and now it’s raining
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They hit my little bermuda grass yard on my Mt. Enterprise place last week. I mowed it down this morning so they couldn't eat the rest of it. The last time I had them was in 2011, another drought year. They have never hit my food plots though, and normally I would have my fall plots up by now, but it's been so hot and dry I held off. About to plant next week though and I'm worried about these dang worms. Everything I ve read about them says to keep livestock off grass or crops for several days to weeks after spraying. I can't keep the deer off.........
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Bad in Robertson county. Have seen people getting crop dusters to spray hay fields and feed store is sold out of everything they can sell over the counter.
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BT (bacillus thuringensis)

Natural insecticide; systemic that will kill all types of caterpillars/worms.
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Best stuff for army worms and worms in general is Prevathon. Has a 3 to 4 week residual action. Good for grasshoppers, too.
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