Active shooter or shooters in Vegas

[Man]

I've taken 10mg Diazapam/midazalam/Valium. Trust me, you won't want to do anything that consists of movement. It makes you a lethargic zombie. No way he pulled all this off while on that medication.

Me to....when it kicked in I would just lie down and smile at the ceiling till I fell asleep.

[gingib]

I am waiting on video from inside the hotel!! Because I know they have it. WIll tell us how many people were inside room and how many came out.

Police will not release info until they figure all this out as they don't want to hurt chance of recovering 2nd person

[asttbe]

Also heard he had the doors screwed shut.

[txarcher]

You're trying to apply logic to a man who fired several hundred to a thousand shots into a crowd of 22000 innocent people.

It doesn't work that way.

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This. By definition, an insane person does not use logic.

[batmaninja]

Relatives said they believe Paddock was worth more than $2 million, making a small fortune from real estate deals and a business that he and Eric Paddock sold. Paddock told neighbors that he was a professional gambler but didn't show any trappings of wealth, driving nondescript cars and favoring khakis and polo shirts.

Eric Paddock recalled that his brother once arranged to take over the top floor of the Atlantis — all part of the free rooms, meals, drinks, spa services and other perks that lubricate the cash-sopped casino culture in Las Vegas, Reno and other gambling havens.

If the guy was using a players card, all of his gambling transactions would be monitored. I would imagine he would have to give them an ID when he set up the card. It should be easy to track his past movements, especially in Vegas.

If he owned millions in real estate, much of the transactions would have been monitored and recorded. Where the property was closed, if he took out a loan, if the taxes were current. How much the property was bought/sold for.

It is hard to believe that this guy doesnt have any sort of digital footprint.

I still dont get how a professional 64 year old slot jockey, pilled up on valium, with no real military training, can shoot 500+ rounds over about a 10 minute period.

[chewy]

[I]

I still dont get how a professional 64 year old slot jockey, pilled up on valium, with no real military training, can shoot 500+ rounds over about a 10 minute period.

firing 500 plus rounds with surefire100 round mags plus a bump fire stock doesn't take much training at all. Ive seen people mag dump with a bump fire stock that have never fired a AR prior.

[wtx223]

I am waiting on video from inside the hotel!! Because I know they have it. WIll tell us how many people were inside room and how many came out.

Police will not release info until they figure all this out as they don't want to hurt chance of recovering 2nd person

Do LV hotels have cameras in the hallways?
I have never noticed them in hallways.
Just around the elevators.

[Goldeneagle]

An old guy that lives near a house I work in talks to me regularly.
He was on patrol that day and saw the second shooter.
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On the grassy knoll?

[bobc]

Man, y'all give the government too much credit thinking they can pull this off. Hell, they can't figure social security, let alone orchestrate something of this magnitude.

And these conspiracies have me rolling! [emoji23]Please keep them going! [emoji23]

"There's no way he could of busted out the 800 lb hurricane proof windows"- Las Vegas is about 1,500 miles away from the nearest ocean that hasn't seen a hurricane in ages! [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

"He died three years ago so how could he done it"- [emoji23][emoji23]Yup, actually heard that one!

"He's a 64 year old man in poor health"- [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

I can't....[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]




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No one has mentioned the obvious. The security guard was the second shooter. He did his shooting, killed Paddock, then shot himself in the leg as the cover-up and ended up being the hero.

[flywise]

No one has mentioned the obvious. The security guard was the second shooter. He did his shooting, killed Paddock, then shot himself in the leg as the cover-up and ended up being the hero.

Oh no you di ent!

[batmaninja]

I have shot a slide fire before and understand how they work.

The DDM4V1 is nearly 7 pounds, without ammo. This guy has been described as a slob that sits in a chair, pulling a slot arm for a living or clicking on video poker buttons. Shooting that gun at nearly full auto, (off hand or from a tripod) is going to be pretty hard for dweebish looking guy in the picture below, IMHO.

[bloodstick]

Relatives said they believe Paddock was worth more than $2 million, making a small fortune from real estate deals and a business that he and Eric Paddock sold. Paddock told neighbors that he was a professional gambler but didn't show any trappings of wealth, driving nondescript cars and favoring khakis and polo shirts.

Eric Paddock recalled that his brother once arranged to take over the top floor of the Atlantis — all part of the free rooms, meals, drinks, spa services and other perks that lubricate the cash-sopped casino culture in Las Vegas, Reno and other gambling havens.

If the guy was using a players card, all of his gambling transactions would be monitored. I would imagine he would have to give them an ID when he set up the card. It should be easy to track his past movements, especially in Vegas.

If he owned millions in real estate, much of the transactions would have been monitored and recorded. Where the property was closed, if he took out a loan, if the taxes were current. How much the property was bought/sold for.

It is hard to believe that this guy doesnt have any sort of digital footprint.

I still dont get how a professional 64 year old slot jockey, pilled up on valium, with no real military training, can shoot 500+ rounds over about a 10 minute period.

I watched an interview earlier on Fox where they said he bought his house in the culdesack using cash. He viewed the home for all of about 15 minutes then closed and paid cash as soon as possible.

[Speedgoat]

I have shot a slide fire before and understand how they work.

The DDM4V1 is nearly 7 pounds, without ammo. This guy has been described as a slob that sits in a chair, pulling a slot arm for a living or clicking on video poker buttons. Shooting that gun at nearly full auto, (off hand or from a tripod) is going to be pretty hard for dweebish looking guy in the picture below, IMHO.

I love a good conspiracy. The guy is/was a man. He has the strength to do what he did. He was no shooter. The 59 kills proves it. Anybody with an ounce of skill, with those weapons, could have killed way more people from that distance. It was fish in a barrel.

[Man]

Wow this has all the makings of a blockbuster movie. Hopefully Pixar has taken notice.

[stickbowcoop]

I've taken 10mg Diazapam/midazalam/Valium. Trust me, you won't want to do anything that consists of movement. It makes you a lethargic zombie. No way he pulled all this off while on that medication.

It is possible to develop a tolerance. I was prescribed this medication after my back surgery in June and the first time I took it I reacted like you post. If I take one now I barely feel any change, just slightly more relaxed.