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Old 11-14-2017, 02:57 PM   #1
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Ok, hereís the situation. Last week was a family weekend at the ranch (family owned not a lease). It consisted of Dad/Grandpa (owner), Son (42) with his 2 kids (grandkids) along with girlfriend of over 2 years and her 2 kids (4 kids range between 9-14) and Son in Law (SIL age 47) with his 2 kids (grandkids also that are both teenagers). Ok, enough of the introductions. So SIL shows up around 11 on Saturday morning while Son and girlfriend are tracking a deer. SIL goes to bathroom upon arriving and clogs up toilet. He doesnít unclog and goes out with the other adults to try to set up a deer stand. While adults were out setting up deer stand, 1 of the girlfriendís kids goes to bathroom and overflows the toilet. Nasty. So, the question is who should be responsible for cleaning up the mess?

It was not cleaned up when everyone left on Sunday as everyone is saying I'm not cleaning it up. SIL says he didnít unclog toilet because the tank fills up super slow due to water situation and he couldnít unclog it at the time. Girlfriendís kid went to bathroom and then tried to unclog toilet by flushing AND THEN plunging which obviously didnít work. So again, who should have cleaned up the nastiness? I wonít say which one I am in the situation to hopefully make answers unbiased. So whatís your opinion on the crappy situation?
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:00 PM   #2
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Sh*t happens
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:00 PM   #3
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Honestly, the person that clogged the toilet should because he could have either unclogged or let it be known that the toilet was clogged so that no one else went in to use it. However, all pride aside, if I'm the owner, I'm cleaning it to get rid of the mess.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:01 PM   #4
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Sometimes the adult in the room has to step up and fix other peoples laziness and stupidity.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:07 PM   #5
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47 year old guy clogs a toilet and creates a mess and then leaves it not cleaned up? If I were the owner I'd flush him down the toilet.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:09 PM   #6
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The one who clogged it and the kid who still decided to use a clogged toilet and flush it should be the ones cleaning it up.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:12 PM   #7
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I thought this was going to be a fishing thread!
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:13 PM   #8
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:15 PM   #9
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So as of today the mess hasn't been clean? That job just got a whole lot crappier.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:15 PM   #10
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If I’m the owner, and people are hunting on my land for free (family or otherwise), I would expect my things to be taken care of and respected.

I would clean it up if nobody else would, but it would be forever off limits to sil who clogged it. I wouldn’t really blame the kid, because in modern times they have probably never encountered this situation and didn’t know what to do. It was 100% the fault of the person who clogged it then left it. That person is responsible for cleaning it up.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:17 PM   #11
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The 42 yr old and 47 yr old should clean it. Act like a man
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:24 PM   #12
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So as of today the mess hasn't been clean? That job just got a whole lot crappier.
That is correct. All parties said they shouldn't have to clean it up. 42 year old went to bed around 930 on Saturday while all others played cards and that is when the majority of the "I'm not cleaning it up" statements were made. SIL left at 11 on Sunday while all others worked until about 1 before leaving. 42 year old will be back down there Friday night with his 2 kids (neither was the flusher) and the SIL will be down Saturday around 1 with 1 of his kids.

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Old 11-14-2017, 03:26 PM   #13
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That is correct. All parties said they shouldn't have to clean it up. SIL left at 11 on Sunday while others worked until about 1 before leaving. 42 year old will be back down there Friday night with his 2 kids (neither was the flusher) and the SIL will be down Saturday around 1 with 1 of his kids.
If I was the owner not a **** person would be allowed to hunt until the mess was. That it is beyond childish.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:27 PM   #14
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The SIL who clogged it should clean it up

If it belonged to me, SIL would not be coming back to hunt or use the toilet

The fact a grown man is even arguing that it was not his fault is a clue to how sorry his *** is anyway
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:28 PM   #15
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SIL should cleaning up. His fault for not unclogging AND Not telling anyone it was clogged. Not very responsible person. Don't let him come back
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:29 PM   #16
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what a drama mess!!

Sounds like a bunch of winners
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:32 PM   #17
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Whoever did it is responsible for fixing it....in any possible situation....EVERY time! This is precisely a huge part of what's wrong with America today; no personal accountability.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:34 PM   #18
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Tell the SIL to stop acting like a kid and clean the mess up, if he wants to come back.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:41 PM   #19
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Whoever clogged it is responsible. That would be the first they fixed before they were allowed it there if I was the owner.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:44 PM   #20
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If any of them had a shred of decency they would volunteer to clean it up as it is negatively affecting the owner and he is already being generous by having them out. The correct answer is everyone should have put on their big boy pants and sucked it up. Now the owner has to deal with it. Bunch of babies.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:44 PM   #21
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SIL no doubt. Shouldn't have ever left to work on a stand without fixing the issue.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:45 PM   #22
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Grandpa: "Ok everyone's ******** outside from this point forward!"
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:46 PM   #23
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whoever did it cleans it.
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:46 PM   #24
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SIL just got booted from being able to access the property.....grown man acting like that, family or not you're not welcome back
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Old 11-14-2017, 03:52 PM   #25
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clogger is responsible. every time. unless they're a fairly young kid, at which point their parents are.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:03 PM   #26
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Kinda depends on why it clogged. Bad plumbing? Whole roll of TP?? Really BIG ****???

If it was the fault of the SIL then his sorry arse should clean it up. If Paw Paw has a crappy crapper then Paw Paw...
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:06 PM   #27
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Sooo....you clogged the toilet, and didn't clean it up
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:15 PM   #28
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Ok, hereís the situation. Last week was a family weekend at the ranch (family owned not a lease). It consisted of Dad/Grandpa (owner), Son (42) with his 2 kids (grandkids) along with girlfriend of over 2 years and her 2 kids (4 kids range between 9-14) and Son in Law (SIL age 47) with his 2 kids (grandkids also that are both teenagers). Ok, enough of the introductions. So SIL shows up around 11 on Saturday morning while Son and girlfriend are tracking a deer. SIL goes to bathroom upon arriving and clogs up toilet. He doesnít unclog and goes out with the other adults to try to set up a deer stand. While adults were out setting up deer stand, 1 of the girlfriendís kids goes to bathroom and overflows the toilet. Nasty. So, the question is who should be responsible for cleaning up the mess?

It was not cleaned up when everyone left on Sunday as everyone is saying I'm not cleaning it up. SIL says he didnít unclog toilet because the tank fills up super slow due to water situation and he couldnít unclog it at the time. Girlfriendís kid went to bathroom and then tried to unclog toilet by flushing AND THEN plunging which obviously didnít work. So again, who should have cleaned up the nastiness? I wonít say which one I am in the situation to hopefully make answers unbiased. So whatís your opinion on the crappy situation?
Pretty dysfunctional. SIL should have been adult enough and cleaned up his original deposit. It is not rocket science. The" kid" at least made an effort and tried to clean it up. I also think there is only one person who would even start to question his behavior and that would be the SIL. I would request to have this thread completely removed. Pretty embarrassing and Grandpa/Dad would probably be livid if he knew this was floating out on social media. If I was Grandpa and found this was out on the green screen, no one would be back at the ranch until next year.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:15 PM   #29
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Mop the room up with his ***
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:17 PM   #30
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Sounds to me like the SIL is a real SOB
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:19 PM   #31
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Sounds like SIL is responsible, but if they all left the place with it still in the same mess, I wouldn't invite a **** one of them back!
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:28 PM   #32
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I can't believe this is even a question....


Grandpa should lock every other supposed man in the house in that ****ter and not let a SOB out until it's clean...and it don't matter who cleans it!
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:30 PM   #33
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Both parties are responsible since both parties played a part. Someone needs to stand up and be the adult.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:32 PM   #34
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Whoís on first? Had to scroll up a time or two.

Ranch details? Iíll come clean it up for an all access pass depending. Guess they donít appreciate that.


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Old 11-14-2017, 04:45 PM   #35
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The amount of disrespect; not to mention the "mess" just being left...I hope you are not the SIL.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:54 PM   #36
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Your the civil engineer. Just engineer your way out of the **** hole.
First one to cause it cleans it.


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Old 11-14-2017, 04:55 PM   #37
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Ask grandpa if I can come hunt and I'll clean it up for him.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:01 PM   #38
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Whoever clogged it is responsible. That would be the first they fixed before they were allowed it there if I was the owner.
I agree 100%, that is my thinking. My stance is whoeverís *** the crap came out of is responsible for cleaning up the crap.

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Pretty dysfunctional. SIL should have been adult enough and cleaned up his original deposit. It is not rocket science. The" kid" at least made an effort and tried to clean it up. I also think there is only one person who would even start to question his behavior and that would be the SIL. I would request to have this thread completely removed. Pretty embarrassing and Grandpa/Dad would probably be livid if he knew this was floating out on social media. If I was Grandpa and found this was out on the green screen, no one would be back at the ranch until next year.
I am not the SIL and agree with all of the first part of your post. I am the son and wanted to make sure I wasnít thinking irrational by expecting SIL to clean it up. I was ****** Saturday (part of the reason I went to bed early although it was a bad day all around), even more ****** Sunday when it wasnít cleaned up before they left (I told one of my nieces it needs to be cleaned up before they left and she said it was as SIL wasnít there at the time and I didnít see him before they left) and Iím still ******. More than likely Iíll clean it up on Friday night because thatís how things generally work around there. Dad/Grandpa is the owner and does all the tractor work, I do ~75% of the labor and SIL does ~25% and that is being generous. Over 90% of the time SIL leaves before 10 on Sunday and leaves me and dad to finish doing everything that needs to be done before leaving (burning trash, cleaning up, swapping out memory cards, etc.). But, Iím not the owner and I have put too much blood, sweat and tears into the place to not go back. Dysfunctional is probably an understatement.

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Kinda depends on why it clogged. Bad plumbing? Whole roll of TP?? Really BIG ****???

If it was the fault of the SIL then his sorry arse should clean it up. If Paw Paw has a crappy crapper then Paw Paw...
It is not bad plumbing other than the calcium, etc that prevents the tank from filling up quickly but that doesnít really have to do with the initial clog. SIL is a huge man (NFL offensive guard size) and fairly hairy so it was more than likely a combo of really big **** and lotta TP.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:03 PM   #39
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The amount of disrespect; not to mention the "mess" just being left...I hope you are not the SIL.
Disrespect is exactly what I feel even though I'm not the owner.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:16 PM   #40
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If I did that at my mil's place I would be embarrassed to step foot back in that house. And that's if I were even allowed too. The sil needs to put on some rubber gloves and get to work. That dang house is going to smell BAD come Friday....
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:17 PM   #41
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You need better family!! X2 on thinking this was about fishing! I woulda skipped this thread if I knew it was about brown trout!!


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Old 11-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #42
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The one who clogged it and the kid who still decided to use a clogged toilet and flush it should be the ones cleaning it up.
Pretty simple solution....but Iíd throw in that the mom of the kid needs to help.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #43
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SIL is responsible. However I can believe multiple grown *** people left it saterday night. Much less Sunday. That is ridiculous.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:18 PM   #44
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I can't believe this is even a question....


Grandpa should lock every other supposed man in the house in that ****ter and not let a SOB out until it's clean...and it don't matter who cleans it!
Winner...
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:21 PM   #45
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I can't believe this is even a question....


Grandpa should lock every other supposed man in the house in that ****ter and not let a SOB out until it's clean...and it don't matter who cleans it!
this! take away man cards delete post. I wish there was a shaking my head button. I would wear it out.
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:24 PM   #46
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Heck, Iíd clean up the mess if I got to hunt for free. SIL would be banned if I was the owner and I donít know if Iíd ever let him come back to hunt.

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Old 11-14-2017, 05:26 PM   #47
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What's SIL's phone number?
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:49 PM   #48
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So, the culprit is your brother-in-law? Have you explained it to your sister...or your wife, he he is her brother?

...and the owner is your dad or your grandad?

I’m so confused!
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Old 11-14-2017, 05:56 PM   #49
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Will clean toilet messes for hunting rights! Just sayin
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Old 11-14-2017, 06:00 PM   #50
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So, the culprit is your brother-in-law? Have you explained it to your sister...or your wife, he he is her brother?

...and the owner is your dad or your grandad?

I’m so confused!
Yes, the culprit is my brother in law (sister's husband). Owner is my dad. I included grandpa because my kids and nieces were all there. My dad went to dinner at my sister and brother in laws house Sunday evening and that's where the slow filling tank/couldn't unclog it story came from. But, my dad never holds my brother in law accountable for his actions or lack of actions. It has been ongoing since he bought the place 18 years ago.

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