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The new GMC and Chevy mid-size sure are nice! Although, with their price tags and similar fuel mileage to a 1/2 ton, I couldn't justify it myself.
I am still not sure why on earth any manufacturers are putting Diesels in their 1/2 tons or smaller trucks. I am fairly certain it's to meet mpg standards for all vehicles in their fleet; however, with the price difference of diesel to gas, it's moronic to even consider a diesel in a half-ton unless you just really want to use "the green pump" every time at the fuel station.
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostThe new GMC and Chevy mid-size sure are nice! Although, with their price tags and similar fuel mileage to a 1/2 ton, I couldn't justify it myself.
I am still not sure why on earth any manufacturers are putting Diesels in their 1/2 tons or smaller trucks. I am fairly certain it's to meet mpg standards for all vehicles in their fleet; however, with the price difference of diesel to gas, it's moronic to even consider a diesel in a half-ton unless you just really want to use "the green pump" every time at the fuel station.
I can promise you if people didn't want them the manufactures wouldn't be making them
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostThe new GMC and Chevy mid-size sure are nice! Although, with their price tags and similar fuel mileage to a 1/2 ton, I couldn't justify it myself.
I am still not sure why on earth any manufacturers are putting Diesels in their 1/2 tons or smaller trucks. I am fairly certain it's to meet mpg standards for all vehicles in their fleet; however, with the price difference of diesel to gas, it's moronic to even consider a diesel in a half-ton unless you just really want to use "the green pump" every time at the fuel station.
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostThe new GMC and Chevy mid-size sure are nice! Although, with their price tags and similar fuel mileage to a 1/2 ton, I couldn't justify it myself.
I am still not sure why on earth any manufacturers are putting Diesels in their 1/2 tons or smaller trucks. I am fairly certain it's to meet mpg standards for all vehicles in their fleet; however, with the price difference of diesel to gas, it's moronic to even consider a diesel in a half-ton unless you just really want to use "the green pump" every time at the fuel station.
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Originally posted by Rubi513 View PostThese kind of comments crack me up If you don't like a diesel don't buy one.
I can promise you if people didn't want them the manufactures wouldn't be making them
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Originally posted by Geezy Rider View PostFor the same reason the taxi cabs in Europe use them, it's a better engine, gets better mileage, lasts longer, is more efficient and is truly designed to run on bio-fuels.
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostSo why don't taxi drivers in the US have diesels? Actually, diesel engines are popular in Europe because diesel is still and always has been CHEAPER than gasoline, sometimes by the same price difference between gas/diesel here. Longevity is nill nowadays, especially with emissions standards/add-ons for diesels. My '04 F150 with a 5.4 V8 has 250K+ miles on it and still strong. I'd agree though that comparing pre-ULSD diesel to gas engines of the time, the diesel would last quite a bit longer.
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Originally posted by Sackett View PostI hear you. I like diesels and own a 7.3. The manufacturers don't always make what sells. I can guarantee you one thing, CAFE Standards are most of the reason manufacturers are putting diesels into half-tons. The cost analysis is in regards to Dodge marketing the Eco-diesel going so much further on a tank of fuel, etc....when in reality, that half ton costs you more to operate with less power than a comparable V8 half ton with a $4K cheaper msrp.
This is my current truck. Note the difference in value before the diesel is added. You will get your money back.
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I am sticking with the dieselLast edited by Rubi513; 02-01-2015, 09:52 PM.
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