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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostIf you really think Trump will win the independent vote idk what to tell you Cruz is the most Ronald Reagan like conservative we have had since the man himself and Hillarys independent support is terrible
That all aside though, if the GOP is willing to hijack the democratic process and destroy the party just to get a candidate they can better influence, then it is obsolete and needs to be destroyed.Last edited by ttechdallas; 03-05-2016, 06:48 PM.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostI am neither pro-Trump nor pro-Cruz. But I don't see any resemblance whatsoever between Cruz and Reagan. No demonstrated history of leadership or executive management. Polarizing vs unifying. As for the independent vote, Trump has already demonstrated he pulls more than Cruz. Has Cruz even won an open primary yet?
That all aside though, if the GOP is willing to hijack the democratic process and destroy the party just to get a candidate they can better influence, then let it is obsolete and needs to be destroyed.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostI am neither pro-Trump nor pro-Cruz. But I don't see any resemblance whatsoever between Cruz and Reagan. No demonstrated history of leadership or executive management. Polarizing vs unifying. As for the independent vote, Trump has already demonstrated he pulls more than Cruz. Has Cruz even won an open primary yet?
That all aside though, if the GOP is willing to hijack the democratic process and destroy the party just to get a candidate they can better influence, then let it is obsolete and needs to be destroyed.
The idea is that he won't get the nod....run as an Indy and split a lot of the GOP vote, thus ensuring Hilary is it
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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostSounds pro trump to me! So trump is unifying? And if he pulls more votes why is Trump the only candidate losing to Hillary in the general election polls? And what leadership has trump proven?
Given a choice of burnt toast or day old scrambled eggs for breakfast, I would probably take burnt toast. That does not make me pro-burnt toast.
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Originally posted by ttechdallas View PostKansas and Maine are proportional states with what, 63 delegates between them? Today is not going to change the trajectory of the race.
With almost the entire Republican establishment, party leaders, CPAC convention hype trying to hijack the democratic process and bury Trump, you would expect Trump to take a hit this week. Especially with the media, including Fox, overwhelming the airwaves.
This will all turn on Ohio and Florida.
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Originally posted by Joshua Flournoy View PostIf that's your takeaway from Cruz winning Kansas and Maine convincingly, then ok. But remember, Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
The net difference in the number of delegates tonight between Cruz and Trump will probably be +/- 20 at best. Won't have a significant impact.
OH and FL will have a huge impact. That's a fact.
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Originally posted by Joshua Flournoy View PostIf that's your takeaway from Cruz winning Kansas and Maine convincingly, then ok. But remember, Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
As for Cruz like Regan I don't see it. Wasn't Regan a Democrat before he was a republican? Did he have a lot of crossover votes? I like Cruz but I don't see him getting any democrats to crossover and vote for him.
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Originally posted by SolocamShooter View PostIf you really think Trump will win the independent vote idk what to tell you Cruz is the most Ronald Reagan like conservative we have had since the man himself and Hillarys independent support is terrible
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Originally posted by Be10dwn View PostThat's not the point of a primary, that is the general election's job. Republicans should choose their candidate, just like democrats should choose their candidate.Last edited by bigbad243; 03-05-2016, 07:41 PM.
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Originally posted by bigbad243 View PostI am trying to understand the logic of this one though. Republicans will vote Republican either way. In order to win you have to capture the independents. I like Cruz but don't see him winning the independent voters. Hope I am wrong.
Winning the independents does no good if you don't also get the conservative base out to vote. They stayed home in the last two presidential elections because we nominated candidates that everyone said would win the independent vote.
The right candidate will bring out the base and win more independents than the democrats. I don't know if Cruz is the perfect person to do that, but he is the best chance we've had in a long time. I don't think Trump can do it with all of the conservatives that have said they won't vote for him.Last edited by J Wales; 03-05-2016, 07:58 PM.
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Originally posted by bigbad243 View PostI have no clue at this point during this cluster F. I don't see Cruz as Ronald Reagan at all. Cruz is more the extreme conservative.
Cruz's policy positions are the closest the Reagan's of any candidate. Unfortunately, he lacks Reagan's charisma, but I hope we don't pick another president on that basis.
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Originally posted by J Wales View PostWinning the independents does no good if you don't also get the conservative base out to vote. They stayed home in the last two presidential elections because we nominated candidates that everyone said would win the independent vote.
The right candidate will bring out the base and win more independents than the democrats. I don't know if Cruz is the perfect person to do that, but he is the best chance we've had in a long time. I don't think Trump can do it with all of the conservatives that have said they won't vote for him.
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