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Old 06-19-2017, 03:45 PM   #1
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The kid that just came back from North Korea just passed away.

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Old 06-19-2017, 03:57 PM   #2
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Thats awful.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:00 PM   #3
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Not much telling what all was done to him by folks in NK.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:08 PM   #4
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Bad situation, hopefully at least one good thing will come of it and the media attention behind it. That being that regardless of what liberals like to think the world is a big bad place and you don't let your kids go to countries that are the worst of the worst and expect a good outcome. Hopefully somewhere some parent right now is telling their kid they can not under any circumstance go to N Korea or Iran or Syria etc.........
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They fried his brain. With some sort of chemical.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:13 PM   #6
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So sad to hear that...
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:15 PM   #7
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Very sad indeed. Serious consequences for ill thought out actions.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:18 PM   #8
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I wonder if the family will ever find out what caused his state and ultimate death? How sad.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:22 PM   #9
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Bad situation, hopefully at least one good thing will come of it and the media attention behind it. That being that regardless of what liberals like to think the world is a big bad place and you don't let your kids go to countries that are the worst of the worst and expect a good outcome. Hopefully somewhere some parent right now is telling their kid they can not under any circumstance go to N Korea or Iran or Syria etc.........
Agree. Kids think they are bulletproof.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:23 PM   #10
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So very sad.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:26 PM   #11
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Unless I heard wrong, which is very possible, I thought his father said he was over there on a college trip as part of a course credit. That he was reached out to and lured to a “educational tour” and when he got there they grabbed him.

Like I said I may have very well heard wrong.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:28 PM   #12
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Unless I heard wrong, which is very possible, I thought his father said he was over there on a college trip as part of a course credit. That he was reached out to and lured to a “educational tour” and when he got there they grabbed him.

Like I said I may have very well heard wrong.
He stole a sign didn't he?
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:29 PM   #13
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He stole a sign didn't he?

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Old 06-19-2017, 04:31 PM   #14
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KAT unless Americans in NK?
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:34 PM   #15
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How could someone think that a field trip to N. Korea is a good idea? That's some real stupid college crap.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:39 PM   #16
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He stole a sign didn't he?
That's the story that the KN's were saying so take it for what it's worth. My wife saw part of the news conference with is father and he gave a different story.

I guess we will never really know what happened.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:43 PM   #17
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Sad deal but bottom line is if you travel to one of these rogue nations don't expect sympathy or to be saved when they capture and torture you.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:49 PM   #18
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That's the story that the KN's were saying so take it for what it's worth. My wife saw part of the news conference with is father and he gave a different story.

I guess we will never really know what happened.
The Norks had surveillance cameras and had video of someone stealing the poster. Certainly not death penalty worthy but trivial decisions can have big consequences.

Tragedy no matter what happened prior to his injury.
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Old 06-19-2017, 04:50 PM   #19
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Sad deal but bottom line is if you travel to one of these rogue nations don't expect sympathy or to be saved when they capture and torture you.
I have sympathy for him and his parents. I made plenty of bad decisions when I was young. That being said, it's time to deal with the Norks once and for all.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:04 PM   #20
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I have sympathy for him and his parents. I made plenty of bad decisions when I was young. That being said, it's time to deal with the Norks once and for all.
Parachute pants= bad decision
Mullet hair cut = bad decision
Drinking cheap whiskey= bad decision
Going to the most isolated country ran by an insane midget is on an entirely different level of decision making
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:14 PM   #21
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Not sure what to believe with the media, but I'm sorry for him and his family! God Bless Them....but why, why, would ANYONE travel with all the turmoil in this world especially to a country that seems devoted to the demise and destruction of the USA?????? I, for one and my family are content to stay within the borders of our great state of Texas and fight off all that want our freedom!
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:57 PM   #22
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Someone needs to take that Kim Jung dung������ Down
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:15 PM   #23
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I have sympathy for him and his parents. I made plenty of bad decisions when I was young. That being said, it's time to deal with the Norks once and for all.
Bad decisions and going into North Korea are 2 totally different things.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:32 PM   #24
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I personally think the university should be held liable, who in the heck comes up with a trip to NK with a whole bunch college aged kids. The kid was arrested and charged with vandalizing and stealing a sign he was caught on one of them big brother cameras.
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Old 06-19-2017, 10:36 PM   #25
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Sad deal all around. You can kill people in certain countries and get less time that he did for stealing a poster in North Korea. This guy killed 77 people and got 21 years.


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Old 06-20-2017, 06:18 AM   #26
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Re affirms my belief in something called "don't go to North Korea".
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:52 AM   #27
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:57 AM   #28
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Lil Kim Too Fat needs a dose of his own medicine.
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:00 AM   #29
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I personally think the university should be held liable, who in the heck comes up with a trip to NK with a whole bunch college aged kids. The kid was arrested and charged with vandalizing and stealing a sign he was caught on one of them big brother cameras.
UVA sent him on a trip to China
While in China someone asked him if he wanted to see a "woman & donkey show" in North Korea.
He accepted.
Paid his money.
And off he went.

I'm sure being a college student in 2014 he knew how bad NK is.
Did UVA give disclaimers to all their students that travel to NK is extremely discouraged?
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I have sympathy for him and his parents. I made plenty of bad decisions when I was young. That being said, it's time to deal with the Norks once and for all.
What he did was like a college kid today booking a spring break trip to tour the heart of Isislandia in heart of bombed out Syria

That's not the smartest move.
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Old 06-20-2017, 07:15 AM   #31
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I heard Little Man Kim is traveling incognito because he thinks there's a hit out on him. Pretty sure he will be dead in 6 months.
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He ripped down a propaganda poster and was caught on video doing it.

I think what they did to him was not right but why would you go to North Korea??

I do feel bad for the family.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:54 AM   #33
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My condolences to his family.

There are places in the USA that are not safe. Some people are clueless when it comes to sensing danger. For instance, I hate large crowds. It is not that I hate the people, it is because bad things always seem to happen where there are crowds. Things like a trip to North Korea are a no brainer.
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I personally think the university should be held liable, who in the heck comes up with a trip to NK with a whole bunch college aged kids. The kid was arrested and charged with vandalizing and stealing a sign he was caught on one of them big brother cameras.
It's always somebody else's fault.
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I have sympathy for him and his parents. I made plenty of bad decisions when I was young. That being said, it's time to deal with the Norks once and for all.

I made bad decisions as well but I made ***** sure I made those bad decisions right here in the good ole USA!
I feel sorry for his parents but I don't really have the same sympathy for him.

The NK's have nukes, that is a much bigger issue.
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It's always somebody else's fault.
Otto and his parents hold 99% of it.
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Who was the American kid a few years ago that did something and he was caned?
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:14 AM   #38
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Who was the American kid a few years ago that did something and he was caned?
There was an expat kid in Singapore many years ago like mid 90s who went out and sprayed a bunch of graffiti. He was caned good for that.
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There was an expat kid in Singapore many years ago like mid 90s who went out and sprayed a bunch of graffiti. He was caned good for that.
Yup that's him.

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I personally think the university should be held liable, who in the heck comes up with a trip to NK with a whole bunch college aged kids. The kid was arrested and charged with vandalizing and stealing a sign he was caught on one of them big brother cameras.
He was in China. I don't think his trip into North Korea was affiliated with the college at all.
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I heard Little Man Kim is traveling incognito because he thinks there's a hit out on him. Pretty sure he will be dead in 6 months.
Hit on him for what and placed by whom?
For this otto kid?
LoL.

You realize Lil Kim's brother was assassinated in Malaysia back in February when two women threw Plutonium or something in his face, right?
He was walking through the airport and they walked up to him and blew it in his face like powder.

Unreal.
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It's tragic that this young man died over a propaganda poster and I feel for any parents that lose a child at that age.

That said, this young man CHOSE to go on a non-school sponsored, Chinese-run tour group named after communist propaganda youth groups; and his parents agreed to it and paid for it, by their own admission. Now, call me crazy (and apparently more educated than his parents) but there's NO way one of my kids would go on a trip like that. Is it really possible that this kid and his family (who live in a very educated and affluent community) did not realize this was a trip into the real-world version of Dr. Evil or any number of James Bond's evil enemies? I know it sounds harsh when this poor kid died but, jeez, where's the personal responsibility? This wasn't even a missionary trip or an aid worker mission - it was a sightseeing tour and biking excursion along the north side of the DMZ! WTH? THEN, the kid steals a poster from the worlds most repressive regime. This whole deal was 100% avoidable! 100%! This wasn't a bad decision - a bad decision is stealing beer from a convenience store or trying drugs. THIS was the single dumbest and most unnecessary decisions I've ever heard of and it's hard to imagine how this wasn't doomed to end this way.

I really feel for the loss of a child for ANY reason; and I'm trying to cut the family some slack. However, when I keep hearing the father claim that his son was, "lured" by the NK's and lay 100% of the blame at NK's feet, it rubs me wrong. That's just not the case and if I were him I'd be RIDDLED with guilt.

I hear people saying it's 'time to deal with NK' now that this tragic deal occurred. NO, it was time to deal with this LONG ago. And the stupidity of the Americans that continue to travel to this backward rogue nation, and continue to end up in captivity, only complicates matters and makes it harder to take a hard line! If the government takes a hard line and NK executes some hostages, then there's an outcry that the US government did wrong. It's a no-win situation. The US State Department has warned ALL US citizens not to travel to NK - for ANY reason! What more does it take? Idiots (no matter how well-intentioned) keep going over there and providing NK with hostages to keep us in line. They know we won't do anything too serious as long as there are US citizens being held. Stupid Americans just keep ignoring the State Department and providing NK with a source of hostages. Then, we all have to feel sorry for them and their families. Call me crazy or just mean but I'm done feeling sorry for people who play with fire and then get burned.


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It's tragic that this young man died over a propaganda poster and I feel for any parents that lose a child at that age.

That said, this young man CHOSE to go on a non-school sponsored, Chinese-run tour group named after communist propaganda youth groups; and his parents agreed to it and paid for it, by their own admission. Now, call me crazy (and apparently more educated than his parents) but there's NO way one of my kids would go on a trip like that. Is it really possible that this kid and his family (who live in a very educated and affluent community) did not realize this was a trip into the real-world version of Dr. Evil or any number of James Bond's evil enemies? I know it sounds harsh when this poor kid died but, jeez, where's the personal responsibility? This wasn't even a missionary trip or an aid worker mission - it was a sightseeing tour and biking excursion along the north side of the DMZ! WTH? THEN, the kid steals a poster from the worlds most repressive regime. This whole deal was 100% avoidable! 100%! This wasn't a bad decision - a bad decision is stealing beer from a convenience store or trying drugs. THIS was the single dumbest and most unnecessary decisions I've ever heard of and it's hard to imagine how this wasn't doomed to end this way.

I really feel for the loss of a child for ANY reason; and I'm trying to cut the family some slack. However, when I keep hearing the father claim that his son was, "lured" by the NK's and lay 100% of the blame at NK's feet, it rubs me wrong. That's just not the case and if I were him I'd be RIDDLED with guilt.

I hear people saying it's 'time to deal with NK' now that this tragic deal occurred. NO, it was time to deal with this LONG ago. And the stupidity of the Americans that continue to travel to this backward rogue nation, and continue to end up in captivity, only complicates matters and makes it harder to take a hard line! If the government takes a hard line and NK executes some hostages, then there's an outcry that the US government did wrong. It's a no-win situation. The US State Department has warned ALL US citizens not to travel to NK - for ANY reason! What more does it take? Idiots (no matter how well-intentioned) keep going over there and providing NK with hostages to keep us in line. They know we won't do anything too serious as long as there are US citizens being held. Stupid Americans just keep ignoring the State Department and providing NK with a source of hostages. Then, we all have to feel sorry for them and their families. Call me crazy or just mean but I'm done feeling sorry for people who play with fire and then get burned.


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I didn't even want to got to South Korea, I was forced.
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It's tragic that this young man died over a propaganda poster and I feel for any parents that lose a child at that age.

That said, this young man CHOSE to go on a non-school sponsored, Chinese-run tour group named after communist propaganda youth groups; and his parents agreed to it and paid for it, by their own admission. Now, call me crazy (and apparently more educated than his parents) but there's NO way one of my kids would go on a trip like that. Is it really possible that this kid and his family (who live in a very educated and affluent community) did not realize this was a trip into the real-world version of Dr. Evil or any number of James Bond's evil enemies? I know it sounds harsh when this poor kid died but, jeez, where's the personal responsibility? This wasn't even a missionary trip or an aid worker mission - it was a sightseeing tour and biking excursion along the north side of the DMZ! WTH? THEN, the kid steals a poster from the worlds most repressive regime. This whole deal was 100% avoidable! 100%! This wasn't a bad decision - a bad decision is stealing beer from a convenience store or trying drugs. THIS was the single dumbest and most unnecessary decisions I've ever heard of and it's hard to imagine how this wasn't doomed to end this way.

I really feel for the loss of a child for ANY reason; and I'm trying to cut the family some slack. However, when I keep hearing the father claim that his son was, "lured" by the NK's and lay 100% of the blame at NK's feet, it rubs me wrong. That's just not the case and if I were him I'd be RIDDLED with guilt.

I hear people saying it's 'time to deal with NK' now that this tragic deal occurred. NO, it was time to deal with this LONG ago. And the stupidity of the Americans that continue to travel to this backward rogue nation, and continue to end up in captivity, only complicates matters and makes it harder to take a hard line! If the government takes a hard line and NK executes some hostages, then there's an outcry that the US government did wrong. It's a no-win situation. The US State Department has warned ALL US citizens not to travel to NK - for ANY reason! What more does it take? Idiots (no matter how well-intentioned) keep going over there and providing NK with hostages to keep us in line. They know we won't do anything too serious as long as there are US citizens being held. Stupid Americans just keep ignoring the State Department and providing NK with a source of hostages. Then, we all have to feel sorry for them and their families. Call me crazy or just mean but I'm done feeling sorry for people who play with fire and then get burned.


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This wasn't even a missionary trip or an aid worker mission - it was a sightseeing tour and biking excursion along the north side of the DMZ! WTH?

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How could someone think that a field trip to N. Korea is a good idea? That's some real stupid college crap.
No worse then hunting in Mexico. Some decisions carry consequences. You get away with it 99 times but it only takes one time for something to go wrong to ruin your life.

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Hit on him for what and placed by whom?
For this otto kid?
LoL.

You realize Lil Kim's brother was assassinated in Malaysia back in February when two women threw Plutonium or something in his face, right?
He was walking through the airport and they walked up to him and blew it in his face like powder.

Unreal.
If he gets to be a problem for China he will disappear.
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:40 PM   #49
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No worse then hunting in Mexico. Some decisions carry consequences. You get away with it 99 times but it only takes one time for something to go wrong to ruin your life.
Have you heard of Cancun or Cabo????
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Old 06-20-2017, 02:44 PM   #50
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Have you heard of Cancun or Cabo????
Yes and you won't catch me at either place.
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