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Old 11-04-2019, 05:04 PM   #101
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Deer is alive and well for now, neighbor saw him last night and this morning, will give a full story later on. Thank you for all of your kind words.
My first thought was, thick red blood, white hair, that's a muscle or brisket shot but then I started reading all of the "dead deer" comments and second guessed.

I'm glad you saw him alive and well.
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Old 11-04-2019, 05:10 PM   #102
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In for the rest of the story on this I want to see pictures of the deers wounds if he still alive. But then again deer are some amazing animals if you don’t get major organs they can definitely survive.
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:06 PM   #103
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Let’s hear it Paul Harvey!
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Old 11-04-2019, 07:20 PM   #104
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My first thought was, thick red blood, white hair, that's a muscle or brisket shot but then I started reading all of the "dead deer" comments and second guessed.



I'm glad you saw him alive and well.


He explained to me that what I thought was white hair was actually grass via text when I posted his pics. So I then reverted back to the blood amount on a passthrough arrow. Whatever it passed through, seemingly would have had to be pretty vascular to retain that much liquid after leaving the other side.

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Old 11-04-2019, 07:29 PM   #105
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I think it's funny how people conclude whether a deer is dead or not based on a photo of an arrow and nothing else. The only time I'd ever come to conclusion of dead deer based on arrow alone would be by smelling stomach and/or intestinal contents on it.

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Old 11-04-2019, 07:39 PM   #106
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Wow this thread has a bunch of twists and turns.
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Old 11-04-2019, 08:05 PM   #107
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I think it's funny how people conclude whether a deer is dead or not based on a photo of an arrow and nothing else. The only time I'd ever come to conclusion of dead deer based on arrow alone would be by smelling stomach and/or intestinal contents on it.
When you see enough over many years it's pk to make an educated guess. Most deer die when shot...And the few that live most don't come back to the same spot. Sure we see a few examples on TBH where they live and show back up but that's out of 30,000 bow hunters.

I've never seen an arrow with that much blood (or even close) where the deer showed back up. I've seen or tracked +/- 250 deer shot with arrows over the past 30 years.
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Old 11-04-2019, 09:04 PM   #108
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My other thought is if that was indeed arterial blood as many have said, he could / should find that deer without a dog.
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Old 11-04-2019, 10:14 PM   #109
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24hrs later and we don’t have the rest of the story???
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:42 AM   #110
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Com’ on man, please don’t ghost us. What’s the rest of the story
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:50 AM   #111
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I think it's funny how people conclude whether a deer is dead or not based on a photo of an arrow and nothing else. The only time I'd ever come to conclusion of dead deer based on arrow alone would be by smelling stomach and/or intestinal contents on it.



Thank thee for thy wise words....we shall strive to be more like thee in the future so as not to be laughed at by thee..Amen
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:02 AM   #112
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So are you going to give us an update on what the neighbors story is? Did you ever get the dog out there or just take their word for it that it was the same deer?
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:40 PM   #113
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I think it's funny how people conclude whether a deer is dead or not based on a photo of an arrow and nothing else. The only time I'd ever come to conclusion of dead deer based on arrow alone would be by smelling stomach and/or intestinal contents on it.


Iíve been on 8 tracks with my dog this season. I have found one deer dead. Iíve shot 6 of them.
People just done understand. They think, the deer is bleeding it must be dead somewhere.



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Old 11-05-2019, 08:43 PM   #114
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Iíve been on 8 tracks with my dog this season. I have found one deer dead. Iíve shot 6 of them.
People just done understand. They think, the deer is bleeding it must be dead somewhere.



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Based on your experience, how many were mortally wounded ?


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Old 11-05-2019, 08:44 PM   #115
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Based on your experience, how many were mortally wounded ?


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Every one , except 2 we didnít get.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:57 PM   #116
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Sorry for leaving you hanging, Iíve been out of town working the past couple of days. While waiting on the dogs to arrive Sunday afternoon the neighbor pulled up and we started visiting about the deer I had shot, neighbor asked me to give him a brief description of the Buck and as I started to he stopped me short and said he had seen the deer 15 minutes after I shot it at his feeder Saturday evening and again Sunday morning. I Took his word for it and called the dogs off, heís a trustworthy guy and Iíve known him a long time. The deer had a double drop on his right side so he was very easy to identify, Iíve not had pictures of him on our camera since the shot but as soon as I do I will share. We had a ton of trouble getting someone with a dog out because of the size of property, the property the deer was shot on is only 12 acres and the neighbors is only 40. This wouldíve been my first bow kill and although Iím glad the deer is alive Iím still dealing with some guilt over the whole ordeal!

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Old 11-05-2019, 08:58 PM   #117
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:59 PM   #118
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Hopefully that all came out right, in a hurry to get kids to bed so I had to use talk to text
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:18 PM   #119
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I can understand where some of you may doubt the neighbor but I am a trusting guy. He was on his way to the stand again that evening and I did not feel comfortable running dogs or asking to run dogs 24 hrs after the shot while he sat in his stand. I made the shot shortly before dark and he said he saw the deer fifteen minutes or so after, keep in mind the small property size, our two feeders are not but 400 yards or so away.
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:38 PM   #120
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Hope you get another chance at him soon.

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Old 11-05-2019, 10:13 PM   #121
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Why didn’t your neighbor shoot him ?
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:19 PM   #122
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Why didnít your neighbor shoot him ?
Said he didnít know that the deer had been shot, came in with a limp and he wasnít sure why. He is retired and hunts nearly every day, says the deer is a regular at his feeder and he is after another.

He could very well be lying, who knows, but I am going to take his word for it and hope I see the deer again, thatís all I can do.
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:22 PM   #123
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Well hopefully he will come back and you can get another shot . Good luck.
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:24 PM   #124
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Thanks for the update, any pics before or after the shot of thisdeer? From you
Or the neighbor?
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:34 AM   #125
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If he’s after another deer maybe he will let you come over and finish the job.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:59 AM   #126
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I shot a buck last Friday morning and arrow looked exactly the same as yours. No blood or arrow at point of impact. Blood was drops and specs (sporadic plate size pools but no runway). Found the arrow at 100 yards, bright red blood, no bubbles, no stomach matter. Didn't really know what to think. Tracked him on hands and knees for 550 yards (googled it later) and finally found him laying 2 feet from his bed. Arrow went in behind the shoulder, hit a rib and deflected back, exited in front of the back leg. When I gutted him, saw that I had missed all vitals and was basically a gut shot. But again I couldn't see or smell any stomach matter on my arrow. It was a weird situation but I guess you never know what's gunna happen when bow hunting!

Hope you get another crack at him, stay positive!
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:21 AM   #127
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OK, call me a skeptic........but with that much blood on the arrow, I would have guessed there was a dead deer to be found. That opinion notwithstanding, I'd also rationally assume that the neighbor who says he saw him a mere 15 minutes later, would've noticed more than the deer limping, and would've seen at least some blood on the deer's coat.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:43 AM   #128
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It is definitely crazy to hear that a buck will continue on its normal routine after getting shot... 15 minutes later!? Limping!!!???

Crazier stuff happens in the woods I guess.
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Old 11-06-2019, 07:47 AM   #129
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In for the result........
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Old 11-06-2019, 08:13 AM   #130
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In for this, hope you get another shot at him
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:03 AM   #131
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In for future update... Good luck
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:08 AM   #132
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hope it works out for you and your neighbor is trust worthy. If he ends up with that deer his excuse now will be the deer is wounded....lol
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:11 AM   #133
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Iíve been on 8 tracks with my dog this season. I have found one deer dead. Iíve shot 6 of them.
People just done understand. They think, the deer is bleeding it must be dead somewhere.



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Was the arrow as bloody as in the OP here in this thread?
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:45 AM   #134
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Was the arrow as bloody as in the OP here in this thread?
Sheís busy right now.

Your stupid question is going to have to wait....
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:54 AM   #135
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Sheís busy right now.

Your stupid question is going to have to wait....
What makes it a stupid question?

Should have asked Were the arrows as bloody.
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Old 11-06-2019, 09:54 AM   #136
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Was the arrow as bloody as in the OP here in this thread?


I shot one 3 years ago that was as bloody as that and there was a GREAT blood trail to follow for about 200 yards and then suddenly nothing. Saw the deer back on camera 2 weeks later. So yes, itís possible.
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I shot one 3 years ago that was as bloody as that and there was a GREAT blood trail to follow for about 200 yards and then suddenly nothing. Saw the deer back on camera 2 weeks later. So yes, itís possible.
This is information I need. Could you see where you shot it from the pictures? Curious what shot could do that. Maybe brisket?

I've tracked deer with decent blood trails that just end sometime. Most of the time it's a single lung shot but would be good to know what other possibilities there are and the deer still live.
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This is information I need. Could you see where you shot it from the pictures? Curious what shot could do that. Maybe brisket?



I've tracked deer with decent blood trails that just end sometime. Most of the time it's a single lung shot but would be good to know what other possibilities there are and the deer still live.


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Old 11-06-2019, 10:37 AM   #139
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What makes it a stupid question?

Should have asked Were the arrows as bloody.
because you can't tell much from an arrow.


Venous blood can look the same as arterial blood, which can look the same as liver blood, which can look that same as a brisket hit, which can look the same as lung blood, which can look the same as a muscle hit.
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because you can't tell much from an arrow.


Venous blood can look the same as arterial blood, which can look the same as liver blood, which can look that same as a brisket hit, which can look the same as lung blood, which can look the same as a muscle hit.
So you're saying that every time (which is A LOT) someone posts they shot a deer and TBHers just in and say post a pic of the arrow they are all stupid for asking because the bloody arrow means nothing?
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:40 AM   #141
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I shot a doe about 10 years ago. Looked like a perfect shot, followed little blood for 100 yards then nothing. She was shot 2 months later with no visible problems but found the arrowhead lodged in her off side elbow. Both upper lung lobes were shriveled and black. So double lung hit and still alive and well doe. It is amazing what these tough creatures can live through.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:49 AM   #142
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So you're saying that every time (which is A LOT) someone posts they shot a deer and TBHers just in and say post a pic of the arrow they are all stupid for asking because the bloody arrow means nothing?
no...just you


A bloody arrow means A deer is bleeding and likely got hit with the arrow....somewhere.

That's honestly about it.

I'll never forget tracking a buck on one of these youth hunts about fifteen years ago. Both the kid and the dad described the deer and that the shot hit him right behind the shoulder.

I tracked decent on my hands and knees about 400 yards to a dead doe, who I assume was standing somewhere near the buck. Neither one of them ever saw the doe, but there she was....deader than a hammer.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:13 PM   #143
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What kind of broad head were you shooting. I was hunting a couple weeks ago with some family members who dont do much bow hunting but had a crossbow he bought off of somebody and i was looking at it and looking at the broad heads and i got one out and i could literally run my finger down the blade and it was dull as could be. He never even checked them or tried getting new ones.

I am not going to get the whole battle of fixed blade vs mechanical started because to each their own. I personally like the rage broadheads with either the chisel tip or the hypodermic tip because it helps stop deflections and will go more through bone. Also a 2+” cut allows for a little more room for error. Nothing is fail proof and nothing is perfect, but the broad head and sharpness play a big factor.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:46 PM   #144
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Update...

Neighbors grandson shot the deer last week. He said I hit the deer in the knee and it had healed up. He did not take a picture of the wound but said the deer was healthy. I have a picture but cannot upload. I am just glad the deer did not go to waste. I am not sure what went wrong with shot but I will continue to practice.
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Old 12-29-2019, 01:47 PM   #145
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What kind of broad head were you shooting. I was hunting a couple weeks ago with some family members who dont do much bow hunting but had a crossbow he bought off of somebody and i was looking at it and looking at the broad heads and i got one out and i could literally run my finger down the blade and it was dull as could be. He never even checked them or tried getting new ones.

I am not going to get the whole battle of fixed blade vs mechanical started because to each their own. I personally like the rage broadheads with either the chisel tip or the hypodermic tip because it helps stop deflections and will go more through bone. Also a 2+Ē cut allows for a little more room for error. Nothing is fail proof and nothing is perfect, but the broad head and sharpness play a big factor.
It was a rage crossbow two blade mechanical. I bought them new. Thanks for the advice!
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Old 12-30-2019, 04:32 PM   #146
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Glad you got some clarification. In for the pic.
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